Xbox controller redesign: now with a hopefully non-shitty D-pad

Kusuguttai

keith lived it

Garlic Bread

yeah

World as Myth

would you like to elaborate

Garlic Bread

the camera is absolute balls and the controls are unresponsive and frustrating

i'm gonna try to play some more later but i kept dying because of the butt camera

plus it just feels dumb after playing X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Batman: Arkham Asylum which just got to the core of their characters and went from there. this just splits you into four different spider-men that are all different as far as characterization but still play pretty much exactly the same

Garlic Bread

at least the graphics are pretty

though i don't know why they have cel-shading for in game graphics (to look like a comic book) and then super realistic CG cutscenes

Garlic Bread

also note that i haven't even gotten through the first real level so i'm hoping it gets better

but it is completely frustrating so far

World as Myth

shitty camera is totally a make-or-break situation

that blows, man

how'd you get a hold of it? did gamestop already get their copies in or something? I haven't even seen any reviews yet

Baroque And Roll

Keith, don't you crush my dreams like this.

Don't you do it.

PLEASE

Kusuguttai

to be fair, kh1 has a shitty camera but that game is still ridiculously fun

Kuribo's Shoe

what the fuck are you people doing

do you even have hyphen keys on your keyboards

101

spi-derman?

Kuribo's Shoe

close enough

and keith you should know that I'm going to buy that game anyway

I sort of have to

Viscount Islands

I've come to dislike cel-shaded looks in general.

Kusuguttai

spiderm-an

Baroque And Roll

Viscount Islands wrote: »

I've come to dislike cel-shaded looks in general.

Tales of Vesperia is fucking gorgeous on my shiny new 360.

Kuribo's Shoe

it was my understanding that only the amazing universe is cel shaded

and how do you know they all control the same if you haven't finished the first level

Garlic Bread

i'm hoping the batman: brave & the bold game is fun

i can only play it on DS though

Garlic Bread

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

it was my understanding that only the amazing universe is cel shaded

and how do you know they all control the same if you haven't finished the first level

there's a tutorial level that takes you through each universe to show you how they're different

they're not different. except kind of Noir in that you still explore exactly the same but you're mostly fucked if you're seen

Baroque And Roll

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

it was my understanding that only the amazing universe is cel shaded

and how do you know they all control the same if you haven't finished the first level

That's what I thought, as well.

Kuribo's Shoe

still getting it

Viscount Islands

Baroque And Roll wrote: »

Viscount Islands wrote: »

I've come to dislike cel-shaded looks in general.

Tales of Vesperia is fucking gorgeous on my shiny new 360.

I mean mostly the "Woah it looks like a comic-book (30 years ago)!"

Oaka23

Futore wrote: »

s aganrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsorry, a kitten layed down on my computer o oere shecome

Garlic Bread

fuck this game

i just fought kraven for like 20 minutes and had one hit left on him but he hit me because of the retarded camera

also: shouldn't have picked hard mode

Kuribo's Shoe

keith I feel like a lot of these problems are your problems

Garlic Bread

i didn't design the shitty camera

World as Myth

are you sure about that

Garlic Bread

well i didn't get paid to design the shitty camera

PiptheFair

I want a sentry game to come out

in the game you do one of 2 things

punch guys into outer space or eat ice cream and cry

this is a thing that needs to happen

Tonkka

PiptheFair wrote: »

I want a sentry game to come out

in the game you do one of 2 things

punch guys into outer space or eat ice cream and cry

this is a thing that needs to happen

Tonkka: The videogame.

Abracadaniel

Rankenphile wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Rank you stone cold logical.

Brains from the top rope

Give him the intellectual stunner

Think him out cold

If you could 'favorite' posts.

This right here.

Clint Eastwood

I thought Keith only plays Rock Band.

Futore

Fishman wrote: »

On removing colours from the buttons:

It could be a nod towards colour-blind gamers. I don't know if there's any issues with the colours as they stand, but it is plausible that the the greyscale differentiation suits a larger population of gamers then just old regular colours.

I'm not sure that it is as effective as coloured differentiation, which has a greater degree of differentiation for the majority of the population, but seeing as the old coloured button controllers still exist whereas this would be an alternative option for colour-blind gamers who haven't had any option until now, I don't have a problem with it on those grounds.

as someone who is colorblind, I will tell you that this is a bit ridiculous.

first of all, very very few people are absolutely colorblind. so seeing things in gray scale isn't that realistic of a response.

second of all, when you're colorblind, you learn how to compensate. it's something you live with more and more from when you're young. It's perfectly safe for me to drive because traffic lights are always set up either top to bottom or left to right. the same way with the buttons on a controller; they have a default.

finally, as rankenphile said, it is very unlikely that developers will start catering to something this marginal so late in the game. A small percentage of people will have these controllers. An even smaller percentage of the people who have these controllers will be colorblind. And more than likely, 0 percent of those people will only be able to be helped with colors in grey scale

Garlic Bread

god i don't know what if i would do if i was colorblind

probably kill myself

Garlic Bread

Clint Eastwood wrote: »

I thought Keith only plays Rock Band.

what's wrong with Rock Band

Fishman

Futore wrote: »

Fishman wrote: »

On removing colours from the buttons:

It could be a nod towards colour-blind gamers. I don't know if there's any issues with the colours as they stand, but it is plausible that the the greyscale differentiation suits a larger population of gamers then just old regular colours.

I'm not sure that it is as effective as coloured differentiation, which has a greater degree of differentiation for the majority of the population, but seeing as the old coloured button controllers still exist whereas this would be an alternative option for colour-blind gamers who haven't had any option until now, I don't have a problem with it on those grounds.

as someone who is colorblind, I will tell you that this is a bit ridiculous.

first of all, very very few people are absolutely colorblind. so seeing things in gray scale isn't that realistic of a response.

second of all, when you're colorblind, you learn how to compensate. it's something you live with more and more from when you're young. It's perfectly safe for me to drive because traffic lights are always set up either top to bottom or left to right. the same way with the buttons on a controller; they have a default.

finally, as rankenphile said, it is very unlikely that developers will start catering to something this marginal so late in the game. A small percentage of people will have these controllers. An even smaller percentage of the people who have these controllers will be colorblind. And more than likely, 0 percent of those people will only be able to be helped with colors in grey scale

Hey, I didn't say it was a good idea. I just said it was an idea.


Hell, I pretty much identify it as being a suspect rationale in the last paragraph.

Treat it as speculation, not gospel.

Langly

is the spider-man game coming out for pc at the same time as the others?

Baroque And Roll

It appears so, Langly.

Framling

I've done some accessibility work at Microsoft. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's got nothing to do with colorblindness.

Garlic Bread

does it have to do with islam

Fishman

Fair enough.