Ys Seven - Dogi is a brawler / Chronicles bumping into stores

Gilder

Rubix42 wrote: »

That sounds like solid advice.

My main problem is that I think I'm just too hasty in trying to attack. The bosses all seem pretty fair on normal, they either blink or move prior to attacking, so you normally have a chance to dodge before getting hit.

Ys is a series that doesn't want you to get hasty in attacking unless there's no other option. Felghana especially wants you to memorize patterns. Felghana is also considered the hardest in the series by the majority of fans, so don't feel bad when you die.

Gilder

Beat Ys 1 for the first time. I missed a lot of side stuff because there's a bunch of ???'s in my notes, but once I beat 2 I might go back with a guide for all the extra stuff.

About the last boss

Spoiler:

There is no fucking way you can dodge his attacks. No way in the world. My eyes could barely comprehend what was even happening on the field. He's going one way, the stars are going another, his shots are going just everywhere, and then every time you hit him you make the field smaller so you see ever MORE stars in the back. It's just a complete sensory overload.

Oh and I have no clue how I missed the Evil Ring, but going back for it sucked a space station full of dicks.

Delzhand

Rubix42 wrote: »

That sounds like solid advice.

My main problem is that I think I'm just too hasty in trying to attack. The bosses all seem pretty fair on normal, they either blink or move prior to attacking, so you normally have a chance to dodge before getting hit.

My first playthrough of Napishtim was like that, too. There's a giant purple flying boss that took me forever to kill because I was only doing 2-3 damage per hit. Then I realized I hadn't upgraded my weapons. It seems like with the newer Ys games all it takes is a level/weapon up or 2 to really make a difference. In Felghana, though, you'll still really have to memorize patterns, moreso than the others.

Rubix42

I feel like I'm making good progress in Oath. Just reached

Spoiler:

Valestian Castle

The grunt style enemies are beating me up pretty good, but I assume it's because I'm still using sword and armor in the 4th slot. I imagine once I find the stuff for slot number 5 I'll be in much better shape.

cj iwakura

So I got Chronicles as well. Came for the OST, stayed for the nostalgia. (I must be the only person who bought 1 & 2, Felghana, and not Seven.)


Coming from a 1 & 2 Turbo Duo vet(via Virtual Console), this version is MUCH harder.

You gain levels real fast in the VC version. Like, four out the gate. And everything is in one area. They spread out the world by at least six more screens in Chronicles, and the starting town is now two.

Sara's in the first town in Ys vanilla; now she's in the second, and the mayor for the thief quest is in the third.


The Shrine/Thief Guild area is pretty much the same though.

First boss? Couldn't touch him.

Nitsua

Everything is in the same place, they just added an opening town to add more story to the game. Also, I did not buy 7 either, so you aren't really alone there.

One thing I would like to give to newcomers to the original Ys game is this bit of information that is incredibly helpful:

Spoiler:

When starting the game (after leaving the port town), don't go into Minea until you have searched the big pond south of the mine. You find a golden vase that can be sold for enough money to buy the sapphire ring. Give the sapphire ring to the one eyed man in the bar and you get money and EXP. Use that money and buy your armor, shield, and a better sword THEN talk to Sara. Instant level.

Once I figured this out on the SMS game, I no longer spent an hour or more before really being able to play.

RandomKit

The only Ys game I've played is Ys: The Oath in Felghana on PC forever ago.
I remember enjoying it well enough, are they all kinda similar?

Kainy

They're mostly very similar, and basically all awesome.

Rubix42

I assume I am closing in on the end parts of Oath in Felghana. I'm getting ready to head to

Spoiler:

Genos Island

Gotta say it, either I'm getting better at the game, or it's becoming easier the more progress I make.

Edit: If I decide to play Ark of Napishtim, how hard is it going to be to find a copy?

Kainy

You can get used copies of it for PSP or PS2 off Amazon for not too much, so not that hard.

If you mean tracking down a copy somewhere locally, that might be pretty hard.

cj iwakura

The PSP version isn't too hard to find in the wild. The PS2 version on the other hand...


But I say get the PSP version anyway.

Kainy

What're the advantages of the PSP version? I've only ever played the PS2 one.

Rubix42

I haven't played either, but I can't imagine playing YS on a big TV. I'd huck a controller at it.

cj iwakura

Well, it's got four games on it, may as well get the fifth.

Rubix42

Snagged YS Seven over the weekend after I finished Oath in Felghana.

I'm trying to find Ark of Napishtim, but none of the gamestops in my area have it used (only $5.99) Seems to be much more expensive than that everywhere else.

cj iwakura

Once Ys II clicks, it's the greatest thing.


It's the Eternal Blue of the franchise.

Kainy

Solomon's temple can pretty much go fuck itself, though.

I've been in this motherfucker for weeks.

astronautcowboy3

I'm thinking of getting into the Ys series after I finish the game I'm on now, Valkyria Chronicles 2. Might play VC3 before I get to a Ys game, but either way I'm on a JRPG fix and Ys is on my radar.

I'm going to download Ys I & II on my PSP from the Japanese PS Store. Therefore, I'm in a bit of a fix; I have no clue which version I should download.

Does anyone have any advice about whether I should get the PC Engine (Turbo-Grafx 16) version or the Chronicles re-release? Language isn't an issue; I just want to play the best/definitive version. I recently read an extensive review of the series that said the Turbo-Grafx version probably outdoes even the PSP version. Thoughts?

Shadowfire

Eh, I really like Chronicles. Both are great, but I'd prefer to replay on the psp now.
Speaking of, it's killing me that our psp broke a while back. Still haven't finished Felghana!

astronautcowboy3

Well, either way I'd be playing it on my PSP (in Japan the PC Engine version is available on the PS Store a la Virtual Console).

That being the case, do you still prefer Chronicles over the "originals." Considering how often this game is ported and remade, I figured quotes were necessary.

astronautcowboy3

I took another peak at the PS Store offerings. Apparently Ys I through Ys IV are all available in TurboGrafx-16 form. I think I'll pick them up at some point. You know, for nostalgia, even though it'll be my first time playing them.

Alright, it's really just for the guitar solos.

Shadowfire

That is truly a worthy reason to buy. The rock-out soundtracks are awesome. :^:

astronautcowboy3

The price is nice too. 800 yen vs. 2800. :mrgreen: