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The road not taken

DefenderDefender Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Social Entropy++
I talked to a guy last night who would be able to recommend me to the guy who runs the POP team at Ubisoft. But I'd have to move to California, which means giving up a bunch of other things.

I do not like dilemmas, duders. I don't think I'll go. Which is a shame because I really like a lot of what the POP team does.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited January 2007
    I'll go, Defender.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Go and live for me, Monkeybomb.

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    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • J. GrantJ. Grant Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Defender wrote:
    I talked to a guy last night who would be able to recommend me to the guy who runs the POP team at Ubisoft. But I'd have to move to California, which means giving up a bunch of other things.

    I do not like dilemmas, duders. I don't think I'll go. Which is a shame because I really like a lot of what the POP team does.

    Well, we've already conceded that you are a complete fucking moron, so I suppose this decision is the right one.

  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA
    edited January 2007
    Where in Cali?

    because if it's SoCal, you're a fool for staying in PA.

    fuck your forums, fuck your administrator and fuck dynagrip for getting away with the long troll.
  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Man, take it.

    Dooooo it.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited January 2007
    I shall, Defender.

    I will live for all of us!

    Or maybe I'll just jerk around, start showing up late every day and get fired.


    Oh, the things I will see!

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User
    edited January 2007
    What do you do defender

  • BrogeyBrogey High Maintenance Santa Monica, CASuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2007
    We'll be waiting, Monkeybomb! :D

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Defender, I want an itemized report of the pros and cons of staying and going.

    I want this on my desk 5 minutes ago.

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  • Green LanternGreen Lantern Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What other things would you have to give up exactly?

  • Lord DaveLord Dave Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    California is the bestevez

    Denny's is for winners.
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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Faricazy wrote:
    What do you do defender

    Mostly real-time 3D graphics programming. So I do stuff like animation systems, exporter/importer/converter tools (like to get stuff from an art program like 3DS Max into a custom format used by a video game), particle/special effect systems, shaders, that kind of stuff.
    Callius wrote:
    Defender, I want an itemized report of the pros and cons of staying and going.

    I want this on my desk 5 minutes ago.
    What other things would you have to give up exactly?

    I wouldn't be near my family, I would have to find a new karate school, I would have to find new friends, and I would lose Kate.

    If I stay I get to keep all of those things, and my boss' long-time experience in the games industry would get me closer to doing my own gaming thing, but it would not get me there as fast as Ubisoft, and it would be considerably longer before I got to work on something as awesome as, like, Assassin's Creed or whatever else that team will do.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Defender wrote:
    Faricazy wrote:
    What do you do defender

    Mostly real-time 3D graphics programming. So I do stuff like animation systems, exporter/importer/converter tools (like to get stuff from an art program like 3DS Max into a custom format used by a video game), particle/special effect systems, shaders, that kind of stuff.
    Callius wrote:
    Defender, I want an itemized report of the pros and cons of staying and going.

    I want this on my desk 5 minutes ago.
    What other things would you have to give up exactly?

    I wouldn't be near my family, I would have to find a new karate school, I would have to find new friends, and I would lose Kate.

    Damn, Kate couldn't/wouldn't come with you for an awesome job?

    I would like to hear about Kate's situation.

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  • denihilistdenihilist tiny, tiny little man live music capitol of the worldAdministrator admin
    edited January 2007
    You would probably fuck everything up anyway. It's best to stay in a nice, comfy place surrounded by known elements.

  • TankHammerTankHammer Extreme Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Defender, you can still access this forum from Cali.

    I'm not even kidding.

    You can do it. I heard about a guy once that did it.

    You should go to Californ-eye-aye and join up with that company. Whatever they have in PA, they'll have in CA, only slightly different versions. You might have to learn to smile though.

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere hasn't seen the movie just likes the titleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dude, I've heard it's pretty hard to get that kind of job.

    Go for it.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pack up the woman and move.

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  • DJDMDJDM Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You should stay home. Life is much safer that way.
    Cheers

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  • denihilistdenihilist tiny, tiny little man live music capitol of the worldAdministrator admin
    edited January 2007
    Monkeybomb wrote:
    I would like to hear about Kate's situation.
    Don't blame Defender, the rabbit died.

  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How serious are you and your girlfriend? I mean, that does sound like an amazing opportunity, though you have veryfew complaints about your job and life right now. Sometimes though, you gotta know when to hold 'em, you gotta know when to fold 'em (i don't know what that means)

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm sure they have perfectly fine Karate studios in LA, possibly even the same style (you're Parker style Kenpo, yes?).

    Kate hates fags, right?

    The family thing is a tough one, but this is a huge opportunity.

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  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Defender you should come to California, it's pretty much the most awesome place ever.

    Also if movies are to be believed (which they are) Southern California is over-run with bad guys who are in need of karate chops to be subdued, preferbly with a good "HI-YAH!"

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  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA
    edited January 2007
    It's not like moving to Cali means you'll never see your family again. They recently invented this thing called an aero plane. I believe they put them up in the air at least twice a year, and the folks who run these mechanical wonders are getting better and better at piloting them every day.


    Kate not going better not be an assumption. You hopefully have talked this over with her since, from my recollection, your relationship is rather serious and any life changing decision like this should have her input too.

    fuck your forums, fuck your administrator and fuck dynagrip for getting away with the long troll.
  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Monkeybomb wrote:
    Damn, Kate couldn't/wouldn't come with you for an awesome job?

    I would like to hear about Kate's situation.

    She likes being near her family, who are all in this area. She also really likes her job and has a potentially-bright future in it. We've discussed the California idea as a hypothetical in the past, and it will require me finding a new woman out there. I don't think she's being selfish; this is a really big deal.
    denihilist wrote:
    You would probably fuck everything up anyway. It's best to stay in a nice, comfy place surrounded by known elements.

    I have become less of a risk-averse person in recent years, and have become more successful, so this is harder to say to myself.

    EDIT:
    Slungsolow wrote:
    Kate not going better not be an assumption. You hopefully have talked this over with her since, from my recollection, your relationship is rather serious and any life changing decision like this should have her input too.

    To be totally clear, yes, we discussed it a while ago (like over a year ago) as a hypothetical and we discussed it today as a much-less-hypothetical and the answer is the same.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    lostwords wrote:
    How serious are you and your girlfriend? I mean, that does sound like an amazing opportunity, though you have veryfew complaints about your job and life right now. Sometimes though, you gotta know when to hold 'em, you gotta know when to fold 'em (i don't know what that means)

    I can show you what it means.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Callius wrote:
    lostwords wrote:
    How serious are you and your girlfriend? I mean, that does sound like an amazing opportunity, though you have veryfew complaints about your job and life right now. Sometimes though, you gotta know when to hold 'em, you gotta know when to fold 'em (i don't know what that means)

    I can show you what it means.

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  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA
    edited January 2007
    there are, ya know, women in california.


    I hear that some of them even put out on the first date.

    fuck your forums, fuck your administrator and fuck dynagrip for getting away with the long troll.
  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Damn, dude. Well, if it were me and my girlfriend...

    I dunno, I wouldn't be able to lose her, but if it was a totally awesome job opportunity, I know she would follow me.

    She's also not deeply entrenched in her job. Neither of us are very family-centric, either.

    So really there's nothing to compare your situation to mine.

    What I'm saying is, give me the fucking job already.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I heard there's a lot of minorities in California. Especially asians and "latinos". Factor that in when making the decision.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    I wouldn't take the job simply because I never want to move back to central or so cal.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    what you should do is have kate get a job in califronia and then you go with her but you don't work

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    lostwords wrote:
    How serious are you and your girlfriend? I mean, that does sound like an amazing opportunity, though you have veryfew complaints about your job and life right now. Sometimes though, you gotta know when to hold 'em, you gotta know when to fold 'em (i don't know what that means)

    Very serious. I would be surprised if something went wrong enough that I did not marry her.

    And yeah, my current job is moving me toward my career goals, and I do like it a lot, but not as quickly as this job would. That said, would I like this job more? Hard to know.
    Callius wrote:
    I'm sure they have perfectly fine Karate studios in LA, possibly even the same style (you're Parker style Kenpo, yes?).

    Kate hates fags, right?

    The family thing is a tough one, but this is a huge opportunity.

    Well, without getting into karate lineages and shit, yes, my instructor did receive a high ranking under Parker. It's moving more to an "integrated martial art" thing and the style is now called Nackord Karate. "Integrated Martial Art" is used instead of "MMA" mainly because we don't want to attract retarded assholes who just want to emulate UFC.

    Kate doesn't hate fags, but she is of a much less open mind than I am. To some people, that may sound impossible, but you know me well enough to know that it is very easily possible. She has some views about homosexuality that I think are retarded and somewhat dangerous, but she is not a "we should kill faggots because it's against God" type.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Lord Dave wrote:
    what you should do is have kate get a job in califronia and then you go with her but you don't work

    This is the best idea.

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  • RiceCookRiceCook Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Do it so that we can see SE++ in the special thanks portion of the credits in assassin's creed.

  • ToadTheMushroomToadTheMushroom Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Seriously man, go for it.

    Worst case scenario you hate it and move back in 6 months.

    Best case scenario it is your fucking career opportunity.

    You dont want to look back in a year and think 'shit, I miseed my chance', unless you stay for this Kate in which case she had better be worth it (I hope that she is, in fact thats probably the best thing to choose)

    He seems to project beyond himself, exerting a kind of Reggie Field that dogs and many birds find unpleasant. Hearing a man speak with this much drive and confidence about an imaginary plumber is sort of enthralling.
  • ascotascot Registered User
    edited January 2007
    Unless it were a "no going back" situation, you should definitely do it.

    Nobody likes a "what could have been"...

  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Defender wrote:
    She has some views about homosexuality that I think are retarded and somewhat dangerous
    California.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    RiceCook wrote:
    Do it so that we can see SE++ in the special thanks portion of the credits in assassin's creed.

    Totally seriously, if I am at the helm of anything reasonably big, "SE++" will appear in there. By "at the helm," I mean "I have enough clout to put a name on that list" and by "reasonably big" I mean something that's good enough and solid enough to warrant a public release, not just the stuff I dick around with on my own for fun/research.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    well...my 2 cents

    it's just a job, it's just money
    if it means giving up your family, your girl, your life as you know it...it may not be worth it

    what's more important to you?

    I tried to write "but that" and my hands naturally wrote "butt hat", which is vastly superior in every way.
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