Mescaline just sounds more romantic and old-timey than any other drug I could think of. That's why I went with that. It sounds like the kind of thing Peter Lorre would take on the sly while he wasn't grassing up his hoodlum friends to Humphrey Bogart.
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Hey, that's a good old-timey drug. Though it's more the kind of thing that a bespectacled quack would prescribe to Bette Davis while she had a breakdown.
isn't it another word for opium
and isn't opium baaaad shit
It is the tool of the evil Fu Manchu, the most inscrutable and devious member of that infernal race, the damned Chinee!
Mescaline just sounds more romantic and old-timey than any other drug I could think of. That's why I went with that. It sounds like the kind of thing Peter Lorre would take on the sly while he wasn't grassing up his hoodlum friends to Humphrey Bogart.
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Seriously, TM, you could log in as me and post exactly the same stuff you already do, and it would be fine.
Also can you guys imagine talking to Humphrey Bogart on mescaline? Wow.
Man, that would be a story.
isn't it another word for opium
and isn't opium baaaad shit
Yes, it was basically alcohol, herbs and powdered opium.
Mescaline just sounds more romantic and old-timey than any other drug I could think of. That's why I went with that. It sounds like the kind of thing Peter Lorre would take on the sly while he wasn't grassing up his hoodlum friends to Humphrey Bogart.
Laudanum
Hey, that's a good old-timey drug. Though it's more the kind of thing that a bespectacled quack would prescribe to Bette Davis while she had a breakdown.
isn't it another word for opium
and isn't opium baaaad shit
It's a tincture of opium and alcohol that writers and other miscreants used to abuse.
Opium is morphine (baaad but useful) and a few other chemicals such as codeine (like morphine jr.) and thebaine (curiously, mitigates the respiratory depressant effects of morphine which makes one less likely to die from overdose).
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from what i hear the most damning generalization you can make about potheads is that they are boring, boring people
yeah
it also tends to destroy lives in kind of a slow-motion sort of way.
i guess part of my beef is that, while booze culture isn't always wonderful, it generally has a pretty strong admonition against letting drinking take over one's life. pot culture almost celebrates the idea of letting pot take over one's life, i guess maybe because it's a young or underground subculture or whatever.
i mean, if you pick up the various periodicals surrounding booze - Wine Snob or Beer Afficianado or whatever, they tend to want to class drinking with living a glamorous high life. Maybe this is kind of irresponsible in its own way, but it's definitely not celebrating the 12-pack of MGD per night bro or the stinking alcoholic in the gutter. High Times, on the other hand, tends to celebrate hemp-wearing dropouts.
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Mescaline just sounds more romantic and old-timey than any other drug I could think of. That's why I went with that. It sounds like the kind of thing Peter Lorre would take on the sly while he wasn't grassing up his hoodlum friends to Humphrey Bogart.
Laudanum
Hey, that's a good old-timey drug. Though it's more the kind of thing that a bespectacled quack would prescribe to Bette Davis while she had a breakdown.
isn't it another word for opium
and isn't opium baaaad shit
It's a tincture of opium and alcohol that writers and other miscreants used to abuse.
Opium is morphine (baaad but useful) and a few other chemicals such as codeine (like morphine jr.) and thebaine (curiously, mitigates the respiratory depressant effects of morphine which makes one less likely to die from overdose).
It's actually still available. It still tends to be the treatment of choice for babies born to mothers who are heroin addicts.
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Mescaline just sounds more romantic and old-timey than any other drug I could think of. That's why I went with that. It sounds like the kind of thing Peter Lorre would take on the sly while he wasn't grassing up his hoodlum friends to Humphrey Bogart.
Laudanum
Hey, that's a good old-timey drug. Though it's more the kind of thing that a bespectacled quack would prescribe to Bette Davis while she had a breakdown.
Laudanum: she'll finally take your advice to chill the fuck out already
from what i hear the most damning generalization you can make about potheads is that they are boring, boring people
yeah
it also tends to destroy lives in kind of a slow-motion sort of way.
i guess part of my beef is that, while booze culture isn't always wonderful, it generally has a pretty strong admonition against letting drinking take over one's life. pot culture almost celebrates the idea of letting pot take over one's life, i guess maybe because it's a young or underground subculture or whatever.
i mean, if you pick up the various periodicals surrounding booze - Wine Snob or Beer Afficianado or whatever, they tend to want to class drinking with living a glamorous high life. Maybe this is kind of irresponsible in its own way, but it's definitely not celebrating the 12-pack of MGS per night bro or the stinking alcoholic in the gutter. High Times, on the other hand, tends to celebrate hemp-wearing dropouts.
Being an alcoholic is ok as long as you drink good shit and wear a bowtie?
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There was a time, that [chat] saw firsthand, where I smoked weed every night for 3 months. That was a bleak 3 months. Not that I'm less depressed now, but I'm more in control.
My entire point is that pot is not "worse" than alcohol by any conceivable standard you choose to examine: it is safer, it is less addictive, it is healthier, it doesn't make people act like douchebags or do things they regret, etc. So for someone who regularly binges on alcohol to look down on a pothead is hypocritical, yeah. It is perfectly fine to not wish to associate with potheads just as it is perfectly fine to not wish to associate with alcoholics. But my point is something being legal does not make it safer or healthier, and those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
For someone who does neither to look down on both is I guess unfortunately judgmental, but doesn't make them a hypocrite.
i guess what i'm suggesting is that there are reasonable standards besides how dangerous or harmful a drug is.
"How much you want to be around someone" is not a reasonable standard for a moral judgment. It's a reasonable standard for how much you want to be around them, though.
I think Will was trying to say that those alcohol magazines say alcoholism is bad.
Like, the wine magazine probably says "Enjoy a glass of X wine with Y type of steak" but it doesn't say "Buy this wine bottle because it's great for chugging"
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from what i hear the most damning generalization you can make about potheads is that they are boring, boring people
yeah
it also tends to destroy lives in kind of a slow-motion sort of way.
i guess part of my beef is that, while booze culture isn't always wonderful, it generally has a pretty strong admonition against letting drinking take over one's life. pot culture almost celebrates the idea of letting pot take over one's life, i guess maybe because it's a young or underground subculture or whatever.
i mean, if you pick up the various periodicals surrounding booze - Wine Snob or Beer Afficianado or whatever, they tend to want to class drinking with living a glamorous high life. Maybe this is kind of irresponsible in its own way, but it's definitely not celebrating the 12-pack of MGD per night bro or the stinking alcoholic in the gutter. High Times, on the other hand, tends to celebrate hemp-wearing dropouts.
Can you name one? How many High Times have you read? I assert that the parallels between the frat-bro binge drinker and the trustafarian 420-all-day-every-day smoker versus your oenophile or Podly and a guy in a suit and tie picking up his kindbud on the way home from the office make this point moot.
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We're having a large argument about the criminalization of drugs
It's quite amusing
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I think Will was trying to say that those alcohol magazines say alcoholism is bad.
Like, the wine magazine probably says "Enjoy a glass of X wine with Y type of steak" but it doesn't say "Buy this wine bottle because it's great for chugging"
You need to read better magazines that do say that.
Being an alcoholic is ok as long as you drink good shit and wear a bowtie?
Yes. Yes, that is exactly how it works.
Seriously? Alcohol industry? Can I even tell you how many straight up alcoholics with a big budget I interact with? Everyone knows dudes are alcoholics but they buy expensive scotch so it means they're enthusiasts and connoisseurs.
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i do see the slow motion destruction thing. its a subtle enough distortion that one might find it quite easy to live for some time with a skewed outlook.
that being said. its much safer than alcohol and doesn't make you stupid in quite the same way.
i love them both. could do without the hangovers, but thats an issue of moderation and a vanquished tolerance.
it also tends to destroy lives in kind of a slow-motion sort of way.
i guess part of my beef is that, while booze culture isn't always wonderful, it generally has a pretty strong admonition against letting drinking take over one's life. pot culture almost celebrates the idea of letting pot take over one's life, i guess maybe because it's a young or underground subculture or whatever.
i mean, if you pick up the various periodicals surrounding booze - Wine Snob or Beer Afficianado or whatever, they tend to want to class drinking with living a glamorous high life. Maybe this is kind of irresponsible in its own way, but it's definitely not celebrating the 12-pack of MGS per night bro or the stinking alcoholic in the gutter. High Times, on the other hand, tends to celebrate hemp-wearing dropouts.
Being an alcoholic is ok as long as you drink good shit and wear a bowtie?
being an addict isn't okay
but "alcohol culture" such as it is, does not generally endorse alcoholism - especially the kind of addiction that degrades ones' lifestyle
pot culture, on the other hand, does seem to endorse socially dropping out and wearing around hempt tees and ridiculous knit hats.
As Harry Hill once said, the thing about heroin is that it's very moreish.
physically it's really not so dangerous if taken in sane amounts. Trouble is the risk stays the same but desire to do more and more gets worse.
Last year I lived with a girl who's parents are police officers. As such she's privy to some of the more disgusting things the justice system does.
For example, heroin addicts are often arrested, and sentenced to jail for x months. During this period of time they'd have a very hard time getting a hold of any heroin and so their tolerance to it is lowered, yet they still desire it.
Then when they get out of jail, they go back to their dealer. They buy their heroin and take as much as they did before jail but without the tolerance so they OD and then die.
The system is rigged for them to kill themselves, and nobody gives a shit.
Being an alcoholic is ok as long as you drink good shit and wear a bowtie?
Yes. Yes, that is exactly how it works.
Seriously? Alcohol industry? Can I even tell you how many straight up alcoholics with a big budget I interact with? Everyone knows dudes are alcoholics but they buy expensive scotch so it means they're enthusiasts and connoisseurs.
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I think Will was trying to say that those alcohol magazines say alcoholism is bad.
Like, the wine magazine probably says "Enjoy a glass of X wine with Y type of steak" but it doesn't say "Buy this wine bottle because it's great for chugging"
You need to read better magazines that do say that.
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I think Will was trying to say that those alcohol magazines say alcoholism is bad.
Like, the wine magazine probably says "Enjoy a glass of X wine with Y type of steak" but it doesn't say "Buy this wine bottle because it's great for chugging"
You need to read better magazines that do say that.
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i like your magazine and would like a subsciption
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Also, Mori, since we're playing LOTRO, I'm going to go ahead and delete the data files for Borderlands to make space.
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I suspect he'd be more pleasant if he got enough sleep.
It is the tool of the evil Fu Manchu, the most inscrutable and devious member of that infernal race, the damned Chinee!
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Also, Brownies in the oven.
from what i have read, the margin between "get high" and "destroy your kidneys" is razor thin in nutmeg
Will I be summarily executed by [chat] now?
Man, that would be a story.
Yes, it was basically alcohol, herbs and powdered opium.
If he's the type of person who brags about going to bed late I imagine he would be insufferable regardless of how much sleep he actually got.
It's a tincture of opium and alcohol that writers and other miscreants used to abuse.
Opium is morphine (baaad but useful) and a few other chemicals such as codeine (like morphine jr.) and thebaine (curiously, mitigates the respiratory depressant effects of morphine which makes one less likely to die from overdose).
Is he eight? That was a big deal when I was eight.
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yeah
it also tends to destroy lives in kind of a slow-motion sort of way.
i guess part of my beef is that, while booze culture isn't always wonderful, it generally has a pretty strong admonition against letting drinking take over one's life. pot culture almost celebrates the idea of letting pot take over one's life, i guess maybe because it's a young or underground subculture or whatever.
i mean, if you pick up the various periodicals surrounding booze - Wine Snob or Beer Afficianado or whatever, they tend to want to class drinking with living a glamorous high life. Maybe this is kind of irresponsible in its own way, but it's definitely not celebrating the 12-pack of MGD per night bro or the stinking alcoholic in the gutter. High Times, on the other hand, tends to celebrate hemp-wearing dropouts.
It's actually still available. It still tends to be the treatment of choice for babies born to mothers who are heroin addicts.
No really, I have been. This sucks. I want to go to sleep. Stupid science.
Laudanum: she'll finally take your advice to chill the fuck out already
physically it's really not so dangerous if taken in sane amounts. Trouble is the risk stays the same but desire to do more and more gets worse.
Being an alcoholic is ok as long as you drink good shit and wear a bowtie?
You're doing much better now <3<3
when hemp smoking dropouts do it its an addiction
when rich yuppies do it it's a "lifestyle"
Like, the wine magazine probably says "Enjoy a glass of X wine with Y type of steak" but it doesn't say "Buy this wine bottle because it's great for chugging"
Can you name one? How many High Times have you read? I assert that the parallels between the frat-bro binge drinker and the trustafarian 420-all-day-every-day smoker versus your oenophile or Podly and a guy in a suit and tie picking up his kindbud on the way home from the office make this point moot.
It's quite amusing
You need to read better magazines that do say that.
Yes. Yes, that is exactly how it works.
Seriously? Alcohol industry? Can I even tell you how many straight up alcoholics with a big budget I interact with? Everyone knows dudes are alcoholics but they buy expensive scotch so it means they're enthusiasts and connoisseurs.
that being said. its much safer than alcohol and doesn't make you stupid in quite the same way.
i love them both. could do without the hangovers, but thats an issue of moderation and a vanquished tolerance.
being an addict isn't okay
but "alcohol culture" such as it is, does not generally endorse alcoholism - especially the kind of addiction that degrades ones' lifestyle
pot culture, on the other hand, does seem to endorse socially dropping out and wearing around hempt tees and ridiculous knit hats.
Last year I lived with a girl who's parents are police officers. As such she's privy to some of the more disgusting things the justice system does.
For example, heroin addicts are often arrested, and sentenced to jail for x months. During this period of time they'd have a very hard time getting a hold of any heroin and so their tolerance to it is lowered, yet they still desire it.
Then when they get out of jail, they go back to their dealer. They buy their heroin and take as much as they did before jail but without the tolerance so they OD and then die.
The system is rigged for them to kill themselves, and nobody gives a shit.
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No, no, you vomit outside yourself. Like in your bed. That's the best place.
Then you weep in shame as you sleep in your own filth.
i like your magazine and would like a subsciption