UPDATE 6: Post-PAX East 2011
So it's been about a month since PAX East and I figured that it's time to regroup and open up the thread for critique of our successes and failures with the current forumer logo. I'm not opening it up to a full redesign just yet, but I want to know what people thought as far as seeing it en masse and having it on stuff. If there are huge parts that need to be redesigned and stuff and a lot of people agree, maybe we'll get another design. Otherwise, I thought it was a great logo, and we should keep it as the official logo. Post away guys.
By the way, I miss all of you guys a lot, and can't wait to be back in Boston next year.
As I have seen HRM (His Royal Moderatorship) Moe Fwacky post in the Challenge coin threads, having a PAX Forumers logo for the community that is here would be a great thing, and so I am thinking of taking it upon myself to design one, as well as encouraging others to design one as well. So I am posting this here to get some momentum behind the idea as well as getting suggestions for what should go on the logo.
EDIT: To answer a question from below, the main reason to do this is because if this logo or crest for the forums were to be on anything that is for sale, it DIRECTLY violates the copyrights of the Penny Arcade Expo and Penny Arcade. It can READ "Penny Arcade Expo" in a font, but it cannot have the PAX or PAX East logo on it.
Post suggestions and let's get this thing made.
UPDATE 1: Questions To Answer
We have our first big questions so we need answers for them!
1) What do we as a forum/subculture/community/tribe value above all else?
2) What are the common factors that connect us all as PAX Forumers?
UPDATE 2: Community
The current logos are looking awesome, but someone brought up a good point. "What is the definition of community?"
When I originally thought about this logo, I thought that the community we are focusing on is the forum community. I mean this in the sense that the things that we take upon ourselves to plan, execute, organize, and report on. Therefore, any events that we don't have a direct effect in planning are not considered "community events". For example, Omegathon is not a community event, but Cookie Brigade is. So I think that for the most part, we need to focus on the things WE do to personalize the PAX experience.
The wonderful Yamara has been working hard on getting this design done, and the most recent logo draft is awesome. What we have so far is this:
And also an example of the logo on shirts:
It really depends on what you all think, though. Post comments below!
UPDATE 4: False Alarm!
So it seems that there is still some unsure thinking behind the "final draft" that we had for a while, so I think it would be better for me to pull the final draft label off and say it needs more work. Luckily, we still have some time before PAX East, where I personally would like to make it a big reveal of sorts.
The main critiques that I have seen are "too busy" and "doesn't include X". I apologize for any comments regarding what is and isn't a community event, especially any I have made. However, I have a feeling that satisfying both of these criticisms would lead to nothing happening. So I am making this an unofficial official thing (with moderator blessing of course):
We need to get a final draft finished that feels simple and can generally be well liked by all. so to allow for any needed printing and shipping needs (for example, the forum badges and so on using the logo), I am setting a deadline of JANUARY 31, 2011 AT 11:59PM EASTERN STANDARD TIME
. Whatever the consensus is at that point is going to be the final design. If we can all agree on that, it will make things more even.
UPDATE 5: FALSE False Alarm!
In agreement with a bunch of people, we now have a final plan. The current "final draft" as designed by Yamara is provisionally accepted as our logo for PAX East. In other words, any and all needed uses of a PAX forum community logo will be Yamara's design. Think of it as a beta test. Once we see the reactions and comments from people at PAX East as well as people ordering stuff with the logo, we will regroup here in April (enough decompression time from the event) and discuss positives and negatives and work from there.