Who's been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

UnbreakableVow

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I still think, from personal experience, that most anyone who is initially put off by Waits' voice can become acclimated to it if they try

I don't think a singer's voice is something I should have to become "acclimated" to

Langly

tom waits' voice is awesome.

i mean damn this song

http://vimeo.com/5532025

Grey Ghost

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I still think, from personal experience, that most anyone who is initially put off by Waits' voice can become acclimated to it if they try

I don't think a singer's voice is something I should have to become "acclimated" to

Yes, well
You

Cornell002

No Beastie Boys love??

The Lovely Bastard

Never been a tom waits kinda dude

then again he didn't record the smash hit 1983 song See You In Hell

So it was a losing battle to begin with

UnbreakableVow

Grey Ghost wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I still think, from personal experience, that most anyone who is initially put off by Waits' voice can become acclimated to it if they try

I don't think a singer's voice is something I should have to become "acclimated" to

Yes, well
You

I don't see what's wrong with this logic

I can't understand someone repeatedly listening to the same singer hoping they'll just "click" and sound better just because everyone else thinks they sound great so there must be something to it, right?

Take Joanna Newsom

People love her, for some reason. I think she sounds like a mentally-retarded child. I'm not going to repeatedly abuse myself by listening to her songs just so I can one day have this epiphany and find the joy in her music that everyone else does, because I'd rather not enjoy a singer that sounds like a retarded child! I'd rather just, you know, not listen to it.

The Lovely Bastard

oh man I must be jacked up on painkillers

I am going to agree with UV again

Grey Ghost

Maybe because the lyrics and the musicianship are so fucking phenomenal

But that's crazy talk so don't listen to me

UnbreakableVow

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Maybe because the lyrics and the musicianship are so fucking phenomenal

But that's crazy talk so don't listen to me

I don't have a problem with his lyrics or his musicianship

Just his voice

Snowbeat

anybody who likes tom waits cannot say a single fucking word about joanna newsom's voice

Grey Ghost

Snowbeat wrote: »

anybody who likes tom waits cannot say a single fucking word about joanna newsom's voice

This I don't get

Just because I like a man who sings like a werewolf does not in any way mean I can't dislike a girl who sings like a developmentally-challenged toddler

There is no fucking bridge between these two sentiments

The Lovely Bastard

You can write a phenomenal song, gg

It doesn't mean you should be the one singing it

Cilla Black

This is the same sort of sentiment I have for Rush. I'm sure they're an extremely talented band and you're all totally justified in your love of them but I cannot stand Geddy Lee's voice.

Grey Ghost

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

You can write a phenomenal song, gg

It doesn't mean you should be the one singing it

I get what you're saying but because I actually do like Tom Waits' voice this argument is probably going to go nowhere

Fast

Snowbeat

the thing is that she doesn't sound like that, especially if you listen to her for a while

same for tom waits, who stops sounding like a bear with a throat disease after you give him some time to grow on you

the lesson is that you shouldn't dismiss an artist's work solely because you think their voice is "weird". it can still be good!

Grey Ghost

Snowbeat wrote: »

the thing is that she doesn't sound like that, especially if you listen to her for a while

same for tom waits, who stops sounding like a bear with a throat disease after you give him some time to grow on you

the lesson is that you shouldn't dismiss an artist's work solely because you think their voice is "weird". it can still be good!

I've tried to like Joanna Newsom but I just can't, man
That voice is too much

It's great that you dig her but I can't do it

The Lovely Bastard

I am not even gonna argue

I do not take music seriously at all

It is not a thing I care enough about to argue for

Snowbeat

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Snowbeat wrote: »

the thing is that she doesn't sound like that, especially if you listen to her for a while

same for tom waits, who stops sounding like a bear with a throat disease after you give him some time to grow on you

the lesson is that you shouldn't dismiss an artist's work solely because you think their voice is "weird". it can still be good!

I've tried to like Joanna Newsom but I just can't, man
That voice is too much

It's great that you dig her but I can't do it

no it's fine that you don't like her. opinions! they're great

it's just silly when somebody walks around going "man don't let tom waits' voice put you off he's really great" while also saying "joanna newsom is a terrible artist, she sounds dumb!"

Lost Salient

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Snowbeat wrote: »

anybody who likes tom waits cannot say a single fucking word about joanna newsom's voice

This I don't get

Just because I like a man who sings like a werewolf does not in any way mean I can't dislike a girl who sings like a developmentally-challenged toddler

There is no fucking bridge between these two sentiments

I agree with you!

Although this argument is probably a silly one to have, even though clearly everyone should love Tom Waits, because Tom Waits is baller as fuck.

Sometimes you like something right off the bat, even if the appeal is hard for others to understand. Sometimes after a while (like, years - it took me years to appreciate Bob Dylan, I hated his voice when I was in middle school) you have an epiphany and find yourself really digging something you used to dislike. And sometimes the irritation factor is never going to decrease enough to let you appreciate the qualities behind what you find superficially irritating.

Diff'rent strokes

etc

etc

Snowbeat

this can be expanded to any band or singer that deviates from the common line of "normal sounding"

personal opinions++

Centipede Damascus

I've been listening to a good amount of Dylan lately and I think that everyone should spend some time doing that

The Lovely Bastard

all people should sing like either Glen Danzig or Rob Halford

Tam

I thought of Sarah Vowell when I first heard Joanna Newsom sing
I love Sarah Vowell and her voice

UnbreakableVow

I've always heard that nobody likes Dylan at first

But that's not true at all

Listening to The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan in its entirety was the first I ever heard of him, and I adored it

Snowbeat

what if you woke up tomorrow and all the bands in the world turned to

wood

Lost Salient

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I've been listening to a good amount of Dylan lately and I think that everyone should spend some time doing that

Naaahh

Here's a voice I adore that some people cannot stand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtA869eH21c

Tam

I'd probably kill myself

LS, do you like Wagner

Lost Salient

I have never been able to appreciate Wagner as much as I should, actually. I like Tristan and Isolde aight, I suppose.

Tam

oh
well Siegfried's Funeral March leaves my jaw on the floor

anyway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFKKY5RHxc&feature=related

Coinage

Tam wrote: »

today on the classic rock radio station, they were lamenting how Rush and the Steve Miller Band were passed up for this or something

I don't like Rush, but it's pretty obvious they deserved to be nominated more than LL Cool J.

I am ambivalent about Tom Waits, so I don't have anything to argue about here.

The Lovely Bastard

Coinage wrote: »

Tam wrote: »

today on the classic rock radio station, they were lamenting how Rush and the Steve Miller Band were passed up for this or something

I don't like Rush, but it's pretty obvious they deserved to be nominated more than LL Cool J.

gonna knock you out

mama said to

Agent Vesago

Cilla Black wrote: »

This is the same sort of sentiment I have for Rush. I'm sure they're an extremely talented band and you're all totally justified in your love of them but I cannot stand Geddy Lee's voice.

I feel this way about System of a Downs lead singer Serj Tankian.

His voice hurts my ears.

Grey Ghost

Lost Salient wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I've been listening to a good amount of Dylan lately and I think that everyone should spend some time doing that

Naaahh

Here's a voice I adore that some people cannot stand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtA869eH21c

Oh man
I really dig this!

Lost Salient

Have you listened to Silver Jews before? If you haven't, you should! They are pretty great! Stephen Malkmus is also pretty great.

Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea is their last album and baaaasically Party Barge is my life anthem.

L|ama

i dont like joanna newsom but the idea that you shouldn't have to get to like a singer's voice is monumentally retarded

that's kind of how you broaden your musical horizons (couldn't think of a less stupid term there soz), but I guess that explains why UV is so awful

The Lovely Bastard

that is completely and utterly wrong llama

you shouldn't have to sit there and make yourself like a singer's voice

it is okay to not like something

Grey Ghost

Lost Salient wrote: »

Have you listened to Silver Jews before? If you haven't, you should! They are pretty great! Stephen Malkmus is also pretty great.

Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea is their last album and baaaasically Party Barge is my life anthem.

This is the first time I've heard them!
I will definitely investigate further

Lost Salient

I don't think Llama is saying it's not okay to not like something

Just that sometimes when you give something a chance, despite an initial "Aww, I dunno man," feeling, it can grow on you and you end up liking it. It's partially timing and partially exposure and suddenly you think, man, this is actually a bit of excellent.

Doesn't always work that way. For instance, Geddy Lee still makes me want to stuff cornnuts in my ears. But it does work that way occasionally!

E: Oh shit oh man ghost I am sending you some information

exist

yo in the words of david berman "all my favorite singers couldn't sing"

my favorite singers are the ones who maybe took a bit for me to appreciate

exist

wow I had no idea there was a page 2 and that silver jews were already mentioned

this is insane

(david berman is silver jews' frontman)