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[The Social Network] Not really about Facebook
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Then why leave out the girlfriend and make up a new one? Why make FaceMash into a rate-a-girl site instead of a rate-a-person site? Sorkin and Fincher chose what to include in the story, what to leave out, and how to change what actually occurred to tell the fake narrative they wanted to tell.
Because its a movie and the general goal of movies is to be entertaining.
And as I said, entertainment doesn't justify lies.
Yes it does. I take it you've never lied to anyone your entire life considering how unbelievably, overbearingly judgemental you're being. If you were this irritating in a group discussion at a bar or something, everyone else at the table would leave 5 minutes in. Your opinion is childish and single minded. Stop it.
Man the 1300s, what the hell do you write about the 1300s?
ALIENS
Consensus doesn't define what is right, it simply arbitrates it. The coward seeks the solace of the mob. Do you believe that entertainment justifies libel?
And you said lies, not libel.
Its entertainment, not the evening news.
You need to learn to deal with the things people say instead of the people saying them. Why are you trying to make this about me? I'm trying to engage in a discussion here and you're just trying to make it about me.
I blame a lack of integrity on your part. What are your thoughts on the matter?
your "discussion" has consisted of you making the same stone-headed point over, and over, and over, to the point where you've taken over the thread
no one is interested anymore, and you're adding nothing new
maybe just
let it go
That might be fair, but I've heard otherwise from quite a few people, and I have yet to see the movie for myself.
Seriously?
You're the only one with the stone cold retarded "argument". You've driven the thread into the ground by repeating the same boring crap over and over again, without saying anything new. This is entirely about you, how could it possibly not be? The things people say is directly tied to the people saying them, and why the people saying them are saying them. We've already addressed this shit over and over again, but you keep posting. The basis of your point is founded in authoritarian judgment without any respect for what actually goes into making a movie like this. You have nothing more to say. People have already shown you that your stance is completely preposterous. You're encouraging everyone to put you on ignore so the rest of us can somehow work our minds around discussing something else.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
I'm saying libel now, but "lies" is still appropriate. You seem to feel that entertainment justifies either. I don't think it does, necessarily, otherwise there's nothing wrong with people like Glenn Beck.
I think in some contexts factual inaccuracies don't matter, or don't matter as much. When they have the primary subject's consent, when composite characters are used to save time or when something is reasonably long after the fact or the subject is already thoroughly mythologized, or when characters names are changed.
As it is, The Social Network keeps the characters' names the same and makes it clear that it's about real people and real events, but then it goes in and invents motives for the guy who made it all happen. I don't see how that's somethign that we should just overlook.
*walks away from thread*
...Go see it. Then talk shit. Thanks.
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Yeah, but you're the one who refuses to actually address it.
If people want to put me on ignore, perhaps they should. I haven't been particularly insulting or unkind I think, just speaking my mind. If people are that interested in having a quaint little club of agreeableness, if it hurts them that much that someone disagrees with them, by all means they should put me on ignore. I wouldn't want them to suffer any more than they already have.
I'm not really interested in critiquing the movie. As I've said I'm sure it's great. I don't need to read the bible to know it's not true, and I don't need to own a blood diamond to know their sparkle doesn't justify their problems.
if you would like to go on about the acceptable definition of truth in film, then make your own thread
I think Loren has made it quite clear that it is just truth in THIS film, because films that dramatize real people that are arbitrarily over seven years removed from the events can be ok.
Fair enough, but if someone comes in and goes "This thread is now about cats", what else are you gonna talk about..... elephants of course!
I'm already scheduling to see it again with a date. I hope I catch some things that I didn't notice the first time around. I also hope that I don't have to sit 2 isles from the screen so I don't have to strain my neck.
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I've been talking about this movie the entire time, all of my comments and all of my links have been in regards to either The Social Network, Mark Zuckerberg or both, with the present me-centric digression being the exception, not the rule, and one which do not enjoy or prefer to have or be involved in.
I hope you enjoy the movie.
Another thread about truth in film, especially ones akin to this one would probably make for an interesting read but I kinda agree a thread for discussing this film specfically probably isn't the best place.
That's partially true, but really this is the only film I can think of that actually causes me concern in this respect. My ignorance of other films may play into it, or it may simply be that this film is doing something wrong. I believe it's likely the latter.
All of my comments in regards to this film could possibly apply to some other films that I'm unaware of or have not thought about, but I'm really only concerned with this one, and so I direct my comments here.
22 million on the first week so far, so that's pretty good.
This is the most baseless, arrogant, self-righteous, preposterous, absurd, and laughable comment anyone could possibly make in this discuss...
Nah, there we go. Now we've really hit rock bottom.
There are a dozen conversations we could be having about this movie if only this ridiculous conversation on artistic liberties weren't stuck on repeat for the past five pages. For instance:
I don't see how it's the art or the artists fault if people react to something that is never said and isn't true.
like, I shouldn't get to see this movie or it shouldn't be made because some people are stupid or jump to conclusions? when for as long as movies have existed they have fictionalized stories based on real events.
I'd hate to have missed this movie because of those people.
Anyways, what was the reference to an actor at harvard when they were talking about distinguished students, any story to that?
I'm pretty sure she went there but I don't know if that was when
edit - quick google check seems to verify. yay.
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I can only imagine what would have happened with a more blatant shoutout.
I have to say, it was a great movie. I really enjoyed the entire thing, and by the end, my wife did too.
When some one goes into a movie they don't really want to see, and walks out excited and happy they saw it...that's a pretty damn good movie.
Reading over this thread....Yikes. It's a damn movie, not a documentary, and as many have said, it never claimed to be. It's based on real events (which we all pretty much know), and doesn't even claim that. It's based in reality, but as a movie...is not reality.
If you want to start a new thread about truth in fiction, you have my blessing. But for now I think this thread needs to refocus.
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