Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it, follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!

Let's talk ballin' last gen JRPGS

FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
So I'm not usually too big on JRPGs, but I've been rocking out the PS2 I bought last summer a whole bunch. I beat FFX when I was 11, and going back and playing it now that I'm 20 has been rad, but I know what I'm doin' and I can recall most of the story.

So today I popped in FFXII, and it's pretty dadgum cool. Only problem is, I have no idea what to do with Vaan on the license grid and the whole system is unfamiliar to me.

Next up is Kingdom Hearts, which is really hard because you run around a-la-plaformers but it seems like a regular RPG to me.

Also, more to the point:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005LOXE/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00004TC6E&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=05B9661MBJZQP7RCHMAJ

Is that worth $30?

Fandyien on
reposig.jpg
«13456732

Posts

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    I want to make Vaan a time thief. I think I'm gonna go with green magic, sword/shield, and maybe daggers? I'll load fran up with ballin' nukes and I guess balthier can keep shooting folks.

    PS i just found a gambit what do I do to make it possible to activate

    reposig.jpg
  • PolecatPolecat Registered User regular
    My problem with XII:

    "Oh shit this game is fucking awesome time to go level... Oh God I love the grind its so awesome, lets go kill some marks... damn couldn't kill that one time to grind more... Oh God this is so fun... maybe I should go do some story, Oh shit where am I supposed to go? Oh shit what's the plot? I don't understand what's going on, time to go level and kill more marks...."

    generally I loved the gameplay and couldn't stand/had no drive to finish the plot

    sigpic-1.jpg
  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    my favorite part is when you get to the final boss and he basically says 'who the hell are you'

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo Registered User regular
    Front Mission 3 and 4 though 3 is PS1 old

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    I've only killed the Rogue Tomato so far. I gotta return that quest and hopefully get an equally ludicrous mark in return

    reposig.jpg
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    The World Ends With You is all the JRPG I need

    m0G7m.gif Fo9bp.gif51ZJT.giflQAzd.gifeqWuu.gif
  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    I want to make Vaan a time thief. I think I'm gonna go with green magic, sword/shield, and maybe daggers? I'll load fran up with ballin' nukes and I guess balthier can keep shooting folks.

    PS i just found a gambit what do I do to make it possible to activate

    Give Balthier more than just guns. Make sure that dude has some magicks. The bigger the better. Guns are really underpowered and slow late in the game. I micromanage, so I often have Baltheir shooting mans, casting healing magicks on mans, or casting casting Scathe.

    Nifty trick: Equip three reflect armors, caste an area magic at YOUR party, watch it get cast a bajillion times and do a fuckton of damage to your enemy. Especially useful on enemies that negate physical attacks.

    Gambits are activated from the menu screen. Select a character you want to set a gambit on, find the action you want that character to do, and then selected a condition for that action. It's a condition.

    If x, then y.

    You can enable gambits from the battle menu by just clicking Gambits to ON.

    2dtr87s.png
  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Yeah, Balthier needs something other then first aid, which always misses
    MISS
    MISS
    MISS

    reposig.jpg
  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Registered User regular
    Seriously, load him up with healing white magick. If my Balthier didn't have Curaja, I'd be so fucked.

    2dtr87s.png
  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    My one problem with the license system is that it's pretty hard to determine what you want if you don't have the spells/items already

    reposig.jpg
  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I'm thinking I might pick up Final Fantasy Tactics on PSN this weekend, my brother's been riding me about never having played it.

    6cucROq.jpg
  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Don't get Chrono Cross. It's convoluted and boring.

    This guy doesn't have a clue.

    Chrono Cross does have some plot issues but the gameplay is fun as hell. Plus also the music.

    And yeah don't buy the Anthologies. As has been mentioned already, the Chrono Trigger port is seriously god-awful.

  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    Also other ps2 jrpgs you need to check out that are probably hella cheap nowadays:

    persona 4
    Dark cloud 2
    Rogue galaxy
    Valkyrie profile 2
    Odin sphere
    Shadow hearts covenant
    Steambot chronicles

    That should tide you over for like a year

    rat.jpg facebook? tumbler? steam/ps3 thingie: lostwords Wishlist! satan here!
  • JishianJishian Registered User regular
    You can actually get the FF4+Chrono Trigger for $12 after shipping on the page you linked.

    Though I find the GBA FF4 and the DS Chrono Trigger to be the best versions of those. And as long as you have a DS/DSLite, you can have both carts in at once! The DS FF4 is really good, but they added in a lot of BS random difficulty.

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Rogue Galaxy is decent, but it's also hardcore jrpg. If you're looking to jump into the most jrpg of jrpgs, go for it.

  • UmaroUmaro Registered User
    Tales of Symphonia for the Gamecube ate up 200+ hours of my life.

    Dogs.jpg
  • deadlyrhetoricdeadlyrhetoric __BANNED USERS
    Don't get Chrono Cross. It's convoluted and boring.

    This guy doesn't have a clue.

    Chrono Cross does have some plot issues but the gameplay is fun as hell. Plus also the music.

    And yeah don't buy the Anthologies. As has been mentioned already, the Chrono Trigger port is seriously god-awful.

    Yes, the music in Chrono Cross was pretty good. Especially that opening song. And the game play is good.

    But seriously? "Some plot issues?" I don't want to get into spoiler territory but
    Spoiler:

    If you're going to play it, just pretend like it's like...a "spiritual successor" to Chrono Trigger or something. Or that it's not related at all.

    Cilla's right. It's definitely worth a play through for the music alone, though.

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Oh man, I forgot about the Shadow Hearts games. Shadow Hearts: From the New World might be the single craziest game I've ever played (not named God Hand).

    6cucROq.jpg
  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    My one problem with the license system is that it's pretty hard to determine what you want if you don't have the spells/items already

    Items, yes. Spells, no.

    Weapons and armor are pretty straightforward. The higher the level, the better the weapons. Accessories don't really work the same way, so I didn't really bother with them outside the Bubble Belt.

    Spells are pretty easy. Only a few spells are new/foreign. Scathe, for instance, is something I hadn't seen before. It's basically just an AoE version of Flare. If you have questions about something, definitely just look it up.

    2dtr87s.png
  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    tales of symphonia is also a game that people should play

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    You only need one PS2 RPG:

    Shin_Megami_Tensei_III_Nocturne.jpg

    Well, it's a start anyway.

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Umaro wrote: »
    Tales of Symphonia for the Gamecube ate up 200+ hours of my life.

    yesss this

    man now I want to play it again

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.

  • JishianJishian Registered User regular
    I'm not sure if it counts as "last gen", but I started playing Zork recently. I'm pretty late to the party I guess. The trilogy was free to download, though now that I actually look at the site, it's not officially Infocom, so I won't link it just in case.

    I am enjoying it more than FF8 though.

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo Registered User regular
    God the Shadow Hearts games were great

    If you want to play them you really need to start from the first, the mechanics are so dated that you'll hate playing it after going through 2 or 3

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo Registered User regular
    I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.

    I posit that you smell

  • UmaroUmaro Registered User
    I rented Chrono Cross once, dunno what I was expecting but about ten hours in when absolutely nothing had been said or done which related it back to Chrono Trigger I sort of lost interest and popped FF7 back in to die to emerald weapon again.

    Dogs.jpg
  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Pfff

    emerald and ruby were easy

    man I loved exploiting the hell out of the materia system.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.


    The more you read into Nocturne's plot, the more you get from it. Very little is spoon-fed to the player, and that's what I like about it. There's certainly no setting quite like the Vortex World, either.


    Press Turn was a great combat system, and fusion, well, love or hate. :P If you love it, get ready to lose hours fusing and refusing for the perfect skill set.

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Maybe I just didn't like it because all the main characters were twats, except your character, who was nothing.

  • deadlyrhetoricdeadlyrhetoric __BANNED USERS
    Pfff

    emerald and ruby were easy

    man I loved exploiting the hell out of the materia system.

    I sunk a lot of time into getting every single Enemy Skill for the Enemy Skill materia. 'Bad Breath' was a complete bitch. Goddamn Marlboros.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    Yuko and the blonde man are pretty nice to you.
    Spoiler:


    But of course they're pissed. The world just ended. Everyone they knew is dead.

  • UmaroUmaro Registered User
    Pfff

    emerald and ruby were easy

    man I loved exploiting the hell out of the materia system.

    Yeah I was too young to really get into exploiting the system so I would just get my ass kicked. All I cared about was getting a cool chocobo.

    Dogs.jpg
  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    I spent so much time into getting that damn Knights of the Round. So much time.

  • deadlyrhetoricdeadlyrhetoric __BANNED USERS
    I spent so much time into getting that damn Knights of the Round. So much time.

    Haha, yes. The animation was definitely subject to diminishing returns. I think by the fourth casting, I was like, 'Oh, God. I've got to sit through this again?'

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Squall wrote: »
    my favorite part is when you get to the final boss and he basically says 'who the hell are you'

    To which I replied. "Who are you!?" Why the fuck were they even fighting? I don't know. I thought those gods or some shit were going to be the final boss.

    360: Sir Stiggleton PSN: Stiggy_PA GFWL: RacerStig Steam: TheStig
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    That seems to be an increasingly common thing with JRPGs

    You'll have a primary antagonist for most of the game, but they're not the one that's intent on destroying the world/the final boss, and that's the person you don't meet until you show up on their doorstep

    Like FFXIII, what the fuck huge boss out of nowhere that you have specifically been talking about not fighting for the whole game

    m0G7m.gif Fo9bp.gif51ZJT.giflQAzd.gifeqWuu.gif
  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Ugh yes I hate that

    my most hated thing in all JRPGs

    well, no, maybe I hate the unconscious sexism more

    but it's up there

  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    Rogue Galaxy is decent, but it's also hardcore jrpg. If you're looking to jump into the most jrpg of jrpgs, go for it.

    That was prt of it's charm! Also the combat system was nice

    If you want a truly jrpg jrpg, gotta go with steamboat chronicles. I mean, you pilot a steam-powered mech and make money busking on the street with like 5 different musical instruments! just fun all around, no angst

    rat.jpg facebook? tumbler? steam/ps3 thingie: lostwords Wishlist! satan here!
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    Well, in SMTIII
    Spoiler:

Sign In or Register to comment.