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ROCK BAND: Old thread.

ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
edited November 2010 in Games and Technology


This Week's DLC
ALL OFFICIAL DLC FOLLOWING ROCK BAND 3'S RELEASE WILL ONLY WORK FOR ROCK BAND 3.

Imagine by John Lennon
  • "Crippled Inside"
  • "Jealous Guy"
  • "It's So Hard"
  • "I Don't Wanna Be A Soldier Mama"
  • "Gimme Some Truth"
  • "Oh My Love"
  • How Do You Sleep?"*
  • "How?"
  • "Oh Yoko!"

These tracks will be available for purchase as individual tracks for $1.99 on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, and $2.00 on Wii, as well as “Imagine (Album)” on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 system and Wii for $14.99. Tracks marked with * will include Pro Guitar and Pro Bass expansions for $0.99 per song.


Next Week's DLC

Lynryd Skynyrd 01
  • "Saturday Night Special"*
  • "Sweet Home Alabama (Live)"*
  • "Tuesday's Gone"
  • "What's Your Name?"*

Single Tracks
38 Special - "Hold On Loosely"*
Bad Company - "Can't Get Enough"*

These tracks will be available for purchase as individual tracks for $1.99 on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and $2.00 on Wii, as well as “Lynyrd Skynyrd Pack 01” on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 system and Wii for $6.99. Tracks marked with “*” will include Pro Guitar and Pro Bass expansions for $0.99 per song.


Future DLC


Billy Joel 01 on Dec 14, 2010
  • "Big Shot"
  • "Captain Jack"
  • "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me"
  • "Movin' Out"
  • "Only the Good Die Young"
  • "Piano Man"
  • "Pressure"
  • "Say Goodbye to Hollywood"
  • "The Entertainer"
  • "The Stranger"

Confirmed by artist/band and developers/MTV:
  • More content from the Doors
  • Bon Jovi Greatest Hits
  • More Billy Joel DLC


ROCK BAND 2 EXPORT
It is a 1.93 GB Rock Band 2 export for the $9.99 export fee, we get all the songs minus these:

AC/DC – Let There Be Rock
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away
Journey – Any Way You Want It
Metallica – Battery
Red Hot Chili Peppers – Give It Away
Soundgarden – Spoonman


Also missing these nine Harmonix band songs but we'll get those back at a later date (possibly with Pro charts):
Abnormality – Visions
Anarchy Club – Get Clean
Bang Camaro – Night Lies
Breaking Wheel – Shoulder to the Plow
Libyans – Welcome to the Neighborhood
The Main Drag – A Jagged Gorgeous Winter
Speck – Conventional Lover
The Sterns – Supreme Girl
That Handsome Devil – Rob the Prez-O-Dent


Additionally, the following songs are missing/unplayable in Rock Band 3 currently:

Rock Band 1
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dani California (Unable to license export)
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun (Unable to license export)

Rock Band DLC
Oasis - Rock and Roll Star (Unable to license EU RB2 export & NA DLC)
Die Toten Hosen - Hier Kommt Alex (Unable to license EU RB2 export & NA DLC)
Anvil - 666 (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Anvil - Metal on Metal (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Anvil - This is Thirteen (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Dinosaur Jr. - Pick Me Up (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Dinosaur Jr. - The Wagon (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
The Guess Who - Hand Me Down World (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
The Guess Who - No Time (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Tenacious D - Rock Your Socks (Audio issue in Xbox 360 version and unpatched PS3 - HMX working on fix)
Avenged Sevenfold - Afterlife (Track pack issue listing the song year as 1907 - HMX working on fix)

Xbox 360 RB2 Export
The export is now live, and is accessible by entering the 16 character code from the back of your Rock Band 2 manual in the “Redeem Code” area of the “Get More Songs” section of Rock Band 3. (If you receive an error, try the process again later, as there are LOTS of people trying to get this to work at the same time.) You will need to make sure you are signed in and connected to Xbox Live. If you have a 25 digit code, you probably have a copy from outside of your geographical location and will have to wait until the export mechanism goes live in your country.

PS3 Export
  1. Visit rockband.com/ps3-export
  2. When prompted, enter the code from the back of your Rock Band 2 manual
  3. Copy down the new code that the website gives you
  4. In Rock Band 3, go to “Get More Songs” in the Main Menu
  5. Select “Redeem Code”
  6. Enter the code you received from the website

Wii Export
Similar to the PS3, the export process will go live once the Nintendo Store has been updated (and is something that Harmonix cannot control).
  1. If you’ve played Rock Band 2 on your Wii, Rock Band 3 will automatically detect your Rock Band 2 Save Data.
  2. Go to “Get More Songs” from the Main Menu in Rock Band 3.
  3. Go to “Redeem Code”
  4. Select “Previously Redeemed Code”
  5. Select “Rock Band 2 Export Pack” (you’ll be prompted to pay 1,000 Wii Points)
  6. Your export will take several minutes to complete. You can also select which specific tracks you’d like to export.

Export notes taken from www.rockbandaide.com


FREE STUFF
The following songs are available for free download via the Rock Band Music Store for the PS3, 360, and the Wii (those not on the Wii are noted):
  • "Still Alive" by GLaDOS and Jonathan Coulton
  • "Promised Land" by Vesuvius *not on the Wii*
  • "Charlene (I'm Right Behind You)" by Stephen and the Colberts *not on the Wii*
  • "Headphones On" by Miranda Cosgrove
  • "Dreaming of Love" by Lights Resolve
  • "Am I Crazy" by Little Fish

If you purchased Rock Band 2 brand spanking new, you are entitled to an additional 20 free tracks, mostly from Indie bands. Check the back of the manual for instructions. The code is a one time use. The pack includes:
Spoiler:


HARMONIX PODCAST
The podcast is linked up on the 'Zine page of the RockBand.com page. Subscribe via iTunes


DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT
Rock Band DLC list via WikiPedia
Rock Band Unplugged DLC list via WikiPedia

Albums available for download so far:
Screaming for Vengeance by Judas Priest
The Cars by the Cars
Doolittle by the Pixies
Peace Sells...But Who's Buying by Megadeth
Moving Pictures by Rush
Blood Sugar Sex Magick by the Red Hot Chili Peppers
Dr. Feelgood by Mötley Crüe
The Colour and the Shape by the Foo Fighters
The Singles 1992-2003 by No Doubt
Texas Flood by Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble
Ten by Pearl Jam
Chinese Democracy by Guns 'n Roses
Nothing's Shocking by Jane's Addiction
Back from the Dead by Spinal Tap
Backspacer by Pearl Jam
Rust in Peace by Megadeth
Axis: Bold as Love by the Jimi Hendrix Experience
Tragic Kingdom by No Doubt (also Deep Cuts version for those that bought the Singles)
British Steel 30th Anniversary by Judas Priest
The Great Southern Trendkill by Pantera
Legend by Bob Marley & the Wailers
Are You Experienced? by the Jimi Hendrix Experience
Imagine by John Lennon

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Rock Band 3
October 26, 2010
Xbox 360, PS3, Nintendo Wii, and a DS version
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WHAT'S THIS?
Rock Band 3 will include several new features to the current selection of gameplay modes:
  • Vocal Harmonies - Continuing from Beatles Rock Band and into Green Day Rock Band, these are now a staple allowing up to three people to sing three distinct parts.
  • Keyboards - An actual midi keyboard will be sold that can be worn like a keytar. Two full octaves.
  • Hook Up Your E-Kit/Keyboard - Got an electronic keyboard or an electronic drumkit? A MIDI converter box will be sold after RB3 releases to allow the use of your own real gear!
  • Revamped World Tour Mode - What has been mentioned is that you can go on actual tours through cities and play through setlists rather than just sitting in one area and clearing out setlists.
  • Drop In and Out - Players can jump in or out of songs without interrupting a song already in progress. They can also change instruments or difficulty settings during a song without pausing. Resuming from a Pause state does the 3-2-1 countdown like in BRB.
  • Song Filtering - There are tons of ways to sort your music library now. Also there is a voting system (a la RBN tracks) with the 1-5 lighters to keep those annoying songs away from your random setlists.
  • Pro Mode - Learn to play songs with actual instruments! Pro mode will have it's own difficulty tiers (Easy to Expert) and two versions of guitars will be sold, one with 100+ fret buttons and an actual guitar with touch sensors. Drums and Vocals will have Pro Mode but don't require new peripherals. There is bass pro mode but you use either of the two guitars they sell for it.
  • Legacy Content - A large amount of current DLC and playable tracks have had their charts updated for Pro Mode and to integrate keyboard and other new designs. Go to the RB forums and vote for them!
  • Revamped Scoring - The game still grabs your individual instrument score even when playing in a band.
  • Exporting - You will be able to export Rock Band 2 into 3 via a code/download just like Lego Rock Band did. This goes for all three consoles, even the Wii! (Details will be revealed later).

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INSTRUMENTS
Spoiler:

SONG LIST
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Rock Band Network
Available now on LIVE
Xbox 360 - All features
PS3 & Wii - Limited DLC from RBN after it goes on LIVE, PS3 might get the full RBN later on

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Spoiler:

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The Beatles Rock Band
09/09/09
Xbox 360, PS3, and the Wii
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Spoiler:

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Lego Rock Band
Available now
Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, and DS
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Spoiler:

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Green Day Rock Band
Available now
Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii
Green_Day_Rock_Band.jpg
Spoiler:


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Other Rock Band Games

Rock Band Unplugged for the PSP - Gameplay is similar to Frequency/Amplitude. Has it's own DLC.
Rock Band for the iPhone - Similar to the PSP but can also allow 4-way multiplayer. Also has its own DLC.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    New thread!
    quick question because I haven't heard anything yet: For like $5 do I get to export all of my RB2 tracks off the disc to be used in RB3? I don't wanna lose some of those.

    shockingly enough, we still don't have any details about the RB2 export

    edit: how about some instrument reviews?

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/rock-band-3-fender-mustang-pro-guitar-review/

    http://gizmodo.com/5670348/rock-band-3-instruments-review

    I want that guitar, but I am so, so afraid of it.

    I've already made up my mind. I've got some disposable income and I'm probably gonna get the Mustang + RB3Cymbal addons (if they hold up...).

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  • ystaelystael Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Are the GameStop preorder songs going to be available for pay download in the regular way? I've been hoping for some New Order, Depeche Mode, etc. since we heard there would be a keyboard controller.

  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    ystael wrote: »
    Are the GameStop preorder songs going to be available for pay download in the regular way? I've been hoping for some New Order, Depeche Mode, etc. since we heard there would be a keyboard controller.

    I was really hoping they'd be available on day 1, but alas.

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  • a_m_a_ta_m_a_t Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Any word on how Wii exporting will work?

    Also, how big of an SD card can Rock Band 3 (and the Wii) support?

  • corin7corin7 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Nice job on the OP. Seriously can't wait for Tuesday.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Zhu-Li, do the thing! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    ystael wrote: »
    Are the GameStop preorder songs going to be available for pay download in the regular way? I've been hoping for some New Order, Depeche Mode, etc. since we heard there would be a keyboard controller.

    I'm sure they'll become available eventually.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    The fact that I have to wait an extra 3 days for the October 29th release date is going to kill me.

    Visiting this thread every day. Seeing people enjoying it. Crying softly to myself.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin. His father's a robot and he's fucking fucked his sister. Lego. They're all made of fucking lego.
  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    corin7 wrote: »
    Nice job on the OP. Seriously can't wait for Tuesday.

    Yeah I havent been around for page 1 of a couple of threads in a row now, so I havent checked out the OP in quite some time.

    Fantastic job with it, Arikado. It's easily the best OP on these here forums!
    (Well - it's neck and neck with the Halo OP's...)

    Also - starting with Rock Band 1, I have always taken the day off for Rock Band releases (even Lego!).

    For Rock Band 3, I took off the week.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Also - starting with Rock Band 1, I have always taken the day off for Rock Band releases (even Lego!).

    For Rock Band 3, I took off the week.

    This is actually the first time I've not taken the day off for a Rock Band release, and it's because it's getting delivered to the office where I work.

    I found out that "priority before 12 noon" means "around 4 in the afternoon" to my postman at home the hard way on Rock Band 2's release. I spent the whole day in the porch with my laptop just waiting, glaring at every passing van and person on a bike in case it was the postman, and then a good hour on the phone with the post office getting my money back for the delivery.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin. His father's a robot and he's fucking fucked his sister. Lego. They're all made of fucking lego.
  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    RBN on PS3 and Wii:
    HMXhenry wrote:
    Here's the tracks coming to RBN on PlayStation 3 on Oct. 26:

    · The Main Drag – “How We’d Look On Paper”
    · Lead the Dead – “Rip’er”
    · Warpath – “Life Unworthy of Life”
    · Jonathan Coulton – “Chiron Beta Prime”
    · Graveyard BBQ – “Cheat on the Church”

    And here's the tracks coming to RBN on Wii on Oct. 26:

    · of Montreal – “Heimdalsgate Like a Promethean Curse”
    · In This Moment – “Mechanical Love”
    · Clutch – “The Mob Goes Wild”
    · Demon Hunter – “Collapsing”
    · Bif Naked – “Sick”
    · The Shins – “So Says I”
    · Testament – “Henchmen Ride”
    · Band of Horses – “The Funeral”

  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hey, now I probably can't get this Day 1 because my bank fucked me over! Huzzah!

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  • corin7corin7 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Also - starting with Rock Band 1, I have always taken the day off for Rock Band releases (even Lego!).

    For Rock Band 3, I took off the week.

    This is actually the first time I've not taken the day off for a Rock Band release, and it's because it's getting delivered to the office where I work.

    I found out that "priority before 12 noon" means "around 4 in the afternoon" to my postman at home the hard way on Rock Band 2's release. I spent the whole day in the porch with my laptop just waiting, glaring at every passing van and person on a bike in case it was the postman, and then a good hour on the phone with the post office getting my money back for the delivery.

    I was thinking of calling in sick on Tuesday but then ended up being sick for real this week and missed a couple days so that's out now. Just going to have a few friends over for a few hours after work. The real party will have to wait for the weekend.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Two songs by The Apples in Stereo have been lowered in price (Full list of price changes under the spoiler):
    Price Reductions

    October 21st, 2010:
    No One In The World by The Apples in Stereo, now 80 MSP
    Hey Elevator by The Apples in Stereo, now 80 MSP
    Spoiler:

  • pablo_pricepablo_price Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hey, speaking of RBN prices, what ever happened to that Blondie song? It was the first thing to be $3 and people were flipping out about it, but I don't even see it in the store now.

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  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So, as can be imagined, a lot of the people who give feedback in RBN are really annoying.

    If anyone isn't familiar with the drum charts of Children of Nova, they look like this:
    Spoiler:

    For their most recent song, which starts as a mid-tempo soft jam but ends with typical ridiculousness as demonstrated above including a 15 second blast beat (like in, you know, metal songs), a playtester suggested that:
    "I think it should be a 5 at most, this is some very basic stuff here... I can see WHY you would think devil right away, because of the blasts... but I assure you those blasts can be done by almost any decent expert level drummer, unlike most blast beats. "

    I know we didn't really need more evidence that people like this are why RBN is full of cookie-monsters, but it is.

    I'm not the best rock band drummer, apparently I'm not even decent by this guy's standards, but I can gold star "The Perfect Drug" and just barely break 90% on the song he's talking about.

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hey, speaking of RBN prices, what ever happened to that Blondie song? It was the first thing to be $3 and people were flipping out about it, but I don't even see it in the store now.

    Any song that was being done by EMI has been 'canceled'. They simply aren't doing anything anymore. The song technically passed the process and then disappeared.

  • pablo_pricepablo_price Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    did a little hunting, and here it is on the marketplace at least: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/80000187-0000-4000-8000-000045410869

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  • polaris314polaris314 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    mxmarks wrote: »
    corin7 wrote: »
    Nice job on the OP. Seriously can't wait for Tuesday.

    Yeah I havent been around for page 1 of a couple of threads in a row now, so I havent checked out the OP in quite some time.

    Fantastic job with it, Arikado. It's easily the best OP on these here forums!
    (Well - it's neck and neck with the Halo OP's...)

    Also - starting with Rock Band 1, I have always taken the day off for Rock Band releases (even Lego!).

    For Rock Band 3, I took off the week.

    I scored Tuesday and Wednesday off, so RB3 will be consuming pretty much both those days for me.

    As of a couple weeks ago, I have (finally) joined the ranks of ION kit owners. I should have done this a LONG time ago - now I have ~3 years of bad habits to correct from adjusting to the RB1 and 2 kits. They weren't terrible, but for anyone who had played drums in the past they certainly felt like had a negative effect on any kind of muscle memory you had built from a real kit. I've been able to re-adjust to playing mostly "correctly" but it was pretty hilarious to see my average performance go from mostly 5/gold stars back down to 3 or 4.

    One thing I haven't really seen discussed or confirmed. Since Pro Drums is generating the charts based on the animation cues now, does this mean the hi-hat open vs closed/yellow vs blue issue will go away, essentially just replacing a yellow/blue pattern with yellow cymbal for all hi-hat hits regardless? I really hope so. It is one of the very few things that still bothers me about how drums are charted.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I doubt that link works. Keldon doesn't list a single score for it and he includes the few scores for Promised Land and Charlene on the Wii before they were pulled down.

    This thread appeared on the Forums the day after Atomic passed peer review:
    As it turns out, Atomic by Blondie is going back into playtest for reasons unknown to man.

    But some people already managed to access it through the online marketplace 'glitch'. Hence the rage yesterday ¬_¬

    Surely we've now found our first problem of trying to get a song before it has been fully approved? Now people MAY have bought a song that has a problem... but as they didn't wait for it to be launched officially they won't be able to download the new revision.

    For now I'm just getting songs through the RBN storefront, sure it'll delay some songs a few days... but it's better than encountering a glitch like this.

    That was March 10. It doesn't take seven months to make a minor update and resubmit for review. Especially not for a song by a band people would know by name. *None* of the EMI tracks exist anymore, including Bullet With Butterfly Wings. Some have theorised that they're going to be Official DLC. Maybe, but it does mean that EMI has abandoned their RBN support.

    Even if that link to Atomic works, few people would have it and if they did officially release it later, you'd still have to pay for it again.


    Anyway, this place is called 'Error 420' and they have the most comprehensive list of songs (and XBL Marketplace links) that passed review (more thorough than Plastic Axe which is still pretty good).

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    polaris314 wrote: »
    One thing I haven't really seen discussed or confirmed. Since Pro Drums is generating the charts based on the animation cues now, does this mean the hi-hat open vs closed/yellow vs blue issue will go away, essentially just replacing a yellow/blue pattern with yellow cymbal for all hi-hat hits regardless? I really hope so. It is one of the very few things that still bothers me about how drums are charted.

    Pro drum charts are not generated by animation cues. They are hand charted like everything else. There is no trigger for hi-hat, it will switch between yellow and blue like it always has, though some people are 'modding' their kits to have two hi-hat cymbals in the same location just to have the feel right.

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Goddamnit I have to watch this thread explode on Tuesday then wait til Friday to play.

    Why you gotta make me hate you EA.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Joystiq review is up.

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/10/22/rock-band-3-review/

    Do they like it?
    Spoiler:

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What's the best kind of DLC? FREE DLC!!!!

    Who else is going to be singing Touch Me like Jack Black did in
    School of Rock?

  • EndaroEndaro Weyland Consortium Building a Better WorldRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Some things:

    -Kind of a shame the keyboard is so small that you only play the part of one hand. I understand displaying two hands worth of information would take up a bit of room, and increase the price of the peripheral, but it just doesn't seem the same.

    -Kind of a shame the squier guitar (or the mustang for that matter) can't recognize bends. That takes out quite a bit from some songs, but I guess the tech just can't see it.

    -Lastly, one thing I haven't heard a single person discuss, the mustang only has 17 frets. Seventeen frets! How are you going to play proguitar on charts that go higher than 17 frets? Rainbow in the dark goes up to the 20th, Crazy Train the 21st. Do they change the chart and make you play it somewhere else? Not exactly an accurate pro chat at that point. How are they going to handle songs that exceed the guitar?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Endaro wrote: »
    -Lastly, one thing I haven't heard a single person discuss, the mustang only has 17 frets. Seventeen frets! How are you going to play proguitar on charts that go higher than 17 frets? Rainbow in the dark goes up to the 20th, Crazy Train the 21st. Do they change the chart and make you play it somewhere else? Not exactly an accurate pro chat at that point. How are they going to handle songs that exceed the guitar?

    HMX has stated that charts will adjust for the higher frets if you have the Mustang connected. It'll still be an 'accurate' chart since you have to make the same finger positions. It'll just be slightly higher on the neck.

  • pablo_pricepablo_price Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Even if that link to Atomic works, few people would have it and if they did officially release it later, you'd still have to pay for it again.
    yeah, I'd never try to buy a song off of one of those.

    also, that Error 420 site is great - reminded me of almost 20 songs I wanted to check out.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    oddly enough, Gamefly finally decided to send me Green Day RB after nearly 5 months in my queue.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Even if that link to Atomic works, few people would have it and if they did officially release it later, you'd still have to pay for it again.
    yeah, I'd never try to buy a song off of one of those.

    also, that Error 420 site is great - reminded me of almost 20 songs I wanted to check out.

    If you're actually going to use a site to check out the songs, I recommend the official listing at rockband.com. These are songs that are definitely in the in-game store so you don't really have to worry about songs getting pulled and resubmitted. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

    That's why I never list songs that haven't passed the HMX quarantine. The official site also includes audio samples and difficulty ratings.

  • EndaroEndaro Weyland Consortium Building a Better WorldRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Endaro wrote: »
    -Lastly, one thing I haven't heard a single person discuss, the mustang only has 17 frets. Seventeen frets! How are you going to play proguitar on charts that go higher than 17 frets? Rainbow in the dark goes up to the 20th, Crazy Train the 21st. Do they change the chart and make you play it somewhere else? Not exactly an accurate pro chat at that point. How are they going to handle songs that exceed the guitar?

    HMX has stated that charts will adjust for the higher frets if you have the Mustang connected. It'll still be an 'accurate' chart since you have to make the same finger positions. It'll just be slightly higher on the neck.

    Wish they had squeezed just a few more buttons on there. It looks like there's room and you don't really need any on strings lower than the third. I've never seen a tab needing you to play the 6th string 20th fret, but there are plenty on the 1st string.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Endaro wrote: »
    Endaro wrote: »
    -Lastly, one thing I haven't heard a single person discuss, the mustang only has 17 frets. Seventeen frets! How are you going to play proguitar on charts that go higher than 17 frets? Rainbow in the dark goes up to the 20th, Crazy Train the 21st. Do they change the chart and make you play it somewhere else? Not exactly an accurate pro chat at that point. How are they going to handle songs that exceed the guitar?

    HMX has stated that charts will adjust for the higher frets if you have the Mustang connected. It'll still be an 'accurate' chart since you have to make the same finger positions. It'll just be slightly higher on the neck.

    Wish they had squeezed just a few more buttons on there. It looks like there's room and you don't really need any on strings lower than the third. I've never seen a tab needing you to play the 6th string 20th fret, but there are plenty on the 1st string.

    After looking at it, I think they made their choice to make it easier for Lefty Flip. The upper cutout isn't as much of a problem on the Mustang as it is on the Squier (which is why so many are crying for a real lefty Squier).

  • EndaroEndaro Weyland Consortium Building a Better WorldRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I was impressed by the impressions the Gizmodo review gave of the Mustang, but Engadget review is not so positive. Apparently palm mutes can set off strings and the equal width button/strings can get you lost.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    It was naturally going to have compromises built-in. Buy the Mustang in a few weeks and play Pro now, along with every other issue that might come up. Or wait until next year, spend twice as much for the 'real' thing, and be unable to play five button mode with it.

    For me, any interest I have in Pro will be sated by the Squier. But I'm not planning on buying one when they come out since at that price, I'd rather buy IONs and finally be able to play the drums. Until I do get a Squier, I'll just be happy playing as I always have.

  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    That's okay. I had to make a choice (not really) between getting my wife the collector's editon of Fable 3 or myself rock band.

    We know who won that one. I'll be getting RB on thursday though.

  • EndaroEndaro Weyland Consortium Building a Better WorldRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Can't decide if I want this day 1 or even week 1. The Doors free DLC looks great and I'm almost done with Beatles, but there's part of me that feels like I have enough backlogged games that I should just wait a little bit, since it's not getting any more expensive.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I bet the reviews are so high because they're comparing it to GH and what it has become. I would suspect that, had it been released last year, RB3 would be getting eights instead of nines.

  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I bet the reviews are so high because they're comparing it to GH and what it has become. I would suspect that, had it been released last year, RB3 would be getting eights instead of nines.

    I guess that means its a good thing Harmonix doesnt do what Activision does then?
    Spoiler:

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I was referring to the 'main' games, not the flood. And releasing three extra titles in two years is still not the same thing...


    Anyway, remember when I mentioned last thread about the loading screen crash?
    I've had it happen a few times mainly during the scene where the guy is pushing the amp down the ramp. Again not really an issue until after the real release date in case there is a patch already.

    Well, if there is a title update on day one, it probably won't address this:
    HMXhenry wrote:
    Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I've passed this along to our QA team.

    More than likely, it's a specific combination of character clothing/face choices and the game just chokes on it. In terms of testing, a practically infinite combination of things that would be a massive waste of time to look for in the first place.

  • polaris314polaris314 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    polaris314 wrote: »
    One thing I haven't really seen discussed or confirmed. Since Pro Drums is generating the charts based on the animation cues now, does this mean the hi-hat open vs closed/yellow vs blue issue will go away, essentially just replacing a yellow/blue pattern with yellow cymbal for all hi-hat hits regardless? I really hope so. It is one of the very few things that still bothers me about how drums are charted.

    Pro drum charts are not generated by animation cues. They are hand charted like everything else. There is no trigger for hi-hat, it will switch between yellow and blue like it always has, though some people are 'modding' their kits to have two hi-hat cymbals in the same location just to have the feel right.

    Well, I vaguely remember a detail from an interview a month or so ago that alluded that they were getting the cymbal vs pads distinction from the animation cues, since those were there from day one. This is the reason why Pro Drums will work will all existing songs (as opposed to guitar which have to be authored by hand). I guess that gave me false hopes, since I figured that meant that if the animation cue was "hi-hat", then it would translate in Pro mode to "yellow cymbal" regardless of what the hand-authored color was from the base chart. I was hoping this would also mean that charts that mapped the hats to red and snare to yellow would be reversed, since you could now actually play them as intended.

    It's by no means a dealbreaker if nothing has changed, but considering how much care went into making sure you are making the correct chord shapes with your fingers in Pro Guitar, it would have been nice if the same attention to "authenticity" were paid to drums.

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