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[The Hobbit] The Longest Post in History, pg 48

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Some fun casting news today.

    The role of "Master of Laketown," a fairly small role in the book, is to be played by none other than Stephen Fry. No word yet on if the role will be expanded in the film.

    Well, there's that long-standing "Stephen Fry is involved in some fashion" rumor taken care of.

    You know, I really wouldn't mind if Jackson deviates from the book quite a bit. The Lord of the Rings books showed that he definitely stayed true to the spirit of the books while making them rollicking movies. I can't really think of a major change that wasn't either innocuous or an improvement (when it came to adapting the flick to the screen, at least), other than maybe the elves showing up for Helm's Deep.

    I think having the elves at Helm's Deep was a decent answer to the question of, "Hey, why the fuck aren't you helping us, you elfin jerkwads?" that would have existed otherwise.

    Without at least a modicum of military support and sacrifice, the elves kinda come off as holier-than-thou douchebags who just run away right when Middle Earth needs them most.

    well ....

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    How much would it suck to be in Haldir's legion, eh?

    "My fellow elvin brothers, tomorrow we leave for the eternal peace of the Grey Havens and remove ourselves from this realm of war and suffering for all time."

    "Hooray!"

    "Except for you guys over there. You gotta go to Helm's Deep and get murdered in a muddy pit."

    " . . . . aw."

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Orlando Bloom is now officially set to return as Legolas in The Hobbit. Let the speculation on where the fuck he's actually going to show up (and in which film) begin!

    As well, Martin Freeman (young Bilbo) is back on set after finishing up his run on Sherlock, the modernized telling of Sherlock Holmes on British television, and he's brought company. Specifically, series star and the titular Holmes himself, Benedict Cumberbatch. Other than holding obviously the most English name ever, little else is known about Cumberbatch's duties on set. Early rumors pegged him at playing the voice of Smaug, but were quickly shot down as "stupid," since no one would need to fly to New Zealand for voice-over work this early in the production, if at all. Speculation now is that he'll be playing the role of Bard the Bowman.


    Seems that David Tennant will be not joining the cast, given the casting of Lee Pace as the Elvinking. Ah, well. We still have one Dr. Who on board.

  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Damn. That would've been cool to see Tennant as the Elvinking. Still, not knocking down Pace. Either would've been a good choice.

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Some fun casting news today.

    The role of "Master of Laketown," a fairly small role in the book, is to be played by none other than Stephen Fry. No word yet on if the role will be expanded in the film.

    Well, there's that long-standing "Stephen Fry is involved in some fashion" rumor taken care of.

    You know, I really wouldn't mind if Jackson deviates from the book quite a bit. The Lord of the Rings books showed that he definitely stayed true to the spirit of the books while making them rollicking movies. I can't really think of a major change that wasn't either innocuous or an improvement (when it came to adapting the flick to the screen, at least), other than maybe the elves showing up for Helm's Deep.

    I think having the elves at Helm's Deep was a decent answer to the question of, "Hey, why the fuck aren't you helping us, you elfin jerkwads?" that would have existed otherwise.

    Without at least a modicum of military support and sacrifice, the elves kinda come off as holier-than-thou douchebags who just run away right when Middle Earth needs them most.

    I always thought it was added because they had no time to show/mention that in the books the elves were fighting the armies of Dol Guldur at the time.

    I haven't watched the movies in a while (should get around to that) but as far as I remember, most of the changes Sir PJ made were for the better. Boromir's death and the complete removal of Tom Bombadil stand out to me, though I'm sure there were quite a few others I can't remember at the moment. Really glad they scrapped the idea of Arwen going to Helms Deep though, that would've been stupid.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I don't recall understanding or liking all the changes, but it has been a while, so I guess I should review.


    Anyway, the real question is, when will we get a Tom Bombadil film?

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Official New Line/Warners release statement for the release dates and titles of Volumes 1 & 2.
    Spoiler:

    TL;DR: An Unexpected Journey, December 14, 2012; There and Back Again, December 13, 2013. Also, official confirmations for Orlando Bloom, Christopher Lee, and Stephen Fry.


    Also, Peter Jackson has obtusely answered some questions about the peripheral stories taking place in the film.
    Spoiler:

  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Bogart wrote: »
    Christopher Lee looked quite frail at the BAFTA awards at which he was given a Fellowship this year. I hope his health allows him to be involved.

    I have to think any potential work he does on The Hobbit will strictly be done sitting down, or (like in ROTS and AOTC) mostly done by digital double.

    It wouldn't surprise me if he went to Wellington for little more than some costume fittings, vocal recordings, and body scanning. Lee was already significantly physically limited during the LOTR production, and that wa 10 years ago.

    But if they can get him for Saruman again, that would be pretty great on several levels.

    He just had his 89th birthday a few days ago.

  • RikushixRikushix Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yay Christopher Lee!

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    This has to be the best press release I've ever read. I'm having a nerdgasm here

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wait, what? Stephen Fry?

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Slider wrote: »
    Wait, what? Stephen Fry?

    Have you not been paying attention?

    That means you probably didn't hear about Benedict Cumberbatch, or Nick Frost, or Simon Pegg joining the cast, either.


    So good news! Now you know!

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It seems that the cast is, more or less, officially complete and locked in.

    While many others have been linked to the role, the part of Bard the Bowman has been landed by up-and-coming Welsh thespian, Luke Evans. He was briefly seen before in Clash of the Titans as Apollo, and will be playing Aramis in this summer's The Three Musketeers as well as returning to the pantheon as Zeus in Tarsem Singh's The Immortals with new Superman Henry Cavill.

    Which still leaves us with Benedict Cumberbatch, whom Martin Freeman and Peter Jackson assured us was now part of the production, and generally rumored for the part Luke Evans won. Well, Cumberbatch is officially the voice of Smaug the Dragon. A bit of mixed news, really, as while Cumberbatch's aristocratic nasal whine likely suits the character of Smaug, I think we were all hoping Bill Nighy would land the part as heavily rumored.

    Interesting, it seems that Cumberbatch was offered the role of Smaug after Jackson was impressed with his readings for the bit-part of The Necromancer. Could Cumberbatch be pulling a Rhys-Davies and playing two characters? Maybe.


    That should be it, folks! Casting wrapped.

  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ain't it Cool was reporting today that Evangeline Lilly is playing an elf. Guess if they're not using Merry, they may as well use his girlfriend.

    Man, Dominic Monaghan made out like a bandit. I'll be in these ridiculously fantastic Oscar-winning movies, then go be in one of the most popular tv shows of all time. Oh and the incredibly sexy lady from that show? Yeah, got her too.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Zhu-Li, do the thing! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So did Peter Jackson find space for John Rhys-Davies after he finally decided he'd be interested? Or did he tell him to bugger off?

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  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So did Peter Jackson find space for John Rhys-Davies after he finally decided he'd be interested? Or did he tell him to bugger off?

    No idea. It would be nice. There are always pickups. Think about how much changed due to pickups for the LOTR trilogy. Aragorn originally fought Sauron for cryin' out loud. It was the makeup allergy that was causing his reticence to return, right? I kinda don't blame him for that.

    God, I'm already excited. Getting the extended blu-ray set next week. Maybe that will keep me sane until these come out.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Zhu-Li, do the thing! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ceno wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So did Peter Jackson find space for John Rhys-Davies after he finally decided he'd be interested? Or did he tell him to bugger off?

    No idea. It would be nice. There are always pickups. Think about how much changed due to pickups for the LOTR trilogy. Aragorn originally fought Sauron for cryin' out loud. It was the makeup allergy that was causing his reticence to return, right? I kinda don't blame him for that.

    More or less. I remember on the commentaries they were talking about special stuff they did for each actor on their last day of shooting. For John Rhys-Davies they gave him a disembodied cast of his makeup he could hurl into a fire.

    There's that, plus the fact that John Rhys-Davies is a curmudgeonly bastard.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Is there any way we could fit Mos Def in here somewhere?

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Is there any way we could fit Mos Def in here somewhere?

    Jackson (and to a lesser extent, Tolkien) firmly established in LOTR that your potential for good is determined by your skin color, starting with white wizards and blonde elves, and descending on down.


    So unless the mighty Mos wants to play "Evil Pirate #2" or something, . . . .

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot P'burg, MTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    But note that the bleached Elves didn't do a whole lot, whereas the more tanned/swarthy Men, Dwarves, and Halflings saved the day. And what color are the Eagles, huh? How about the Ents?

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    But note that the bleached Elves didn't do a whole lot, whereas the more tanned/swarthy Men, Dwarves, and Halflings saved the day. And what color are the Eagles, huh? How about the Ents?

    The eagles were clearly a diversity hire.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    PROOF! The Hobbit is actually happening!

    Pics, here.

  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My blu-ray set of the extended editions of the Lord of the Rings films arrived today, thanks to release-day shipping from Amazon. Everything about this package is extraordinarily beautiful. From the case that holds all three of the films, to the individual films' packaging, to the picture quality. My god, the picture quality.

    I held out for these editions of the films before I got the blu-rays, as I consider (as should everyone) these films to be the definitive editions. They are so much substantially better than the theatrical versions.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wait, are you saying there's a BluRay special edition of the extended version of the trilogy? Because if so, it's time to hit the Olive Garden to scrape up the cash for a PS3 and those discs.

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Glad to hear, Ceno. I hear the transfers are astounding. If anyone has seen the so-called HD versions of the films on TNT, be aware that the EE BRDs are actually a wholly new 1080p/DTS 6.1 master, not an upscaled 720p patchwork.

    My biggest gripes, and maybe my only gripes, are that the films are still split across 2 discs each, and that none of the original extras are remastered in HD.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Wait, are you saying there's a BluRay special edition of the extended version of the trilogy? Because if so, it's time to hit the Olive Garden to scrape up the cash for a PS3 and those discs.

    Wal-Mart has the best B&M price, matching Amazon's $70. MSRP is a whoppin' $140.

    Also, it's 4 discs longer than the original EE cuts. So sixteen discs in all.

  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Some pictures, just for funsies.

    The outer cover:

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    The inner cover:

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    The film cases:

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wow, Arwen made the cover of all three versions.

  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Man, I love the fight between Gandalf and Saruman in Fellowship. It's just two old guys beating the shit out of each other with magic.

    Edit: I'm don't know what the transfer of the theatrical version looked like on blu-ray, but Fellowship looks astounding.

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  • iguanacusiguanacus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Best-buy also has this priced at $70, and they also have a version with some pewter figurines for $100

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  • RikushixRikushix Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I was downtown on Sunday and there were massive signs for the set hanging in front of Future Shop, but all they said was "Lord of the Rings: Extended Edition, releases June 28th". More Aragon than Blu-Ray or relevant details. I was a little confused at first.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot P'burg, MTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Interesting, how the arrangement on the cover of TT is made by rotating the front trio in Fellowship once clockwise, and RotK comes from Gandalf moved to the back and Aragorn and Arwen moving up. One simple transformation for each.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Zhu-Li, do the thing! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My biggest gripes, and maybe my only gripes, are that the films are still split across 2 discs each, and that none of the original extras are remastered in HD.

    It's a minor bummer, but considering the extra material wasn't filmed in HD we're not missing all that much.

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  • SandorSandor Registered User
    edited June 2011
    Bogart wrote: »
    Christopher Lee looked quite frail at the BAFTA awards at which he was given a Fellowship this year. I hope his health allows him to be involved.

    I have to think any potential work he does on The Hobbit will strictly be done sitting down, or (like in ROTS and AOTC) mostly done by digital double.

    It wouldn't surprise me if he went to Wellington for little more than some costume fittings, vocal recordings, and body scanning. Lee was already significantly physically limited during the LOTR production, and that wa 10 years ago.

    But if they can get him for Saruman again, that would be pretty great on several levels.

    Lee said like a year ago that flying to New Zealand is too much for him at this point in his life. "It's too far", he said.

    But he was announced on the press release, so I guess maybe they got him a private plane to make it a smoother flight.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Sandor wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Christopher Lee looked quite frail at the BAFTA awards at which he was given a Fellowship this year. I hope his health allows him to be involved.

    I have to think any potential work he does on The Hobbit will strictly be done sitting down, or (like in ROTS and AOTC) mostly done by digital double.

    It wouldn't surprise me if he went to Wellington for little more than some costume fittings, vocal recordings, and body scanning. Lee was already significantly physically limited during the LOTR production, and that wa 10 years ago.

    But if they can get him for Saruman again, that would be pretty great on several levels.

    Lee said like a year ago that flying to New Zealand is too much for him at this point in his life. "It's too far", he said.

    But he was announced on the press release, so I guess maybe they got him a private plane to make it a smoother flight.

    If Jackson can do anything remotely like what Lucas pulled off in AOTC and ROTS, Lee only needs to do a quick full-dress video scan, record some dialogue, and drop the mic.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    My biggest gripes, and maybe my only gripes, are that the films are still split across 2 discs each, and that none of the original extras are remastered in HD.

    It's a minor bummer, but considering the extra material wasn't filmed in HD we're not missing all that much.

    I think you're missing what I'm saying.

    The actual media with just the film and associated commentaries plays over 2 discs for each film, so six discs for just the three movies. Considering there are three or four commentaries, plus the DTS track, plus the 1-3 SAP tracks taking up a lot of the space on the disc, I'd gladly sacrifice several of those (to me) superfluous audio tracks to get just the films and the 6.1 track on one disc each.

    However, considering that fucking no one is using dual-layer BRDs for some reason unknown to me, I don't think there's any possible way to get all of ROTK on just one disc; the 1080p transfer on its own almost takes up all the space on a single-layer BRD, never mind the audio.

  • SandorSandor Registered User
    edited July 2011
    Wow, Arwen made the cover of all three versions.

    She has a bigger picture than Gandalf on the ROTK cover. That's some bullshit.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Zhu-Li, do the thing! Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    My biggest gripes, and maybe my only gripes, are that the films are still split across 2 discs each, and that none of the original extras are remastered in HD.

    It's a minor bummer, but considering the extra material wasn't filmed in HD we're not missing all that much.

    I think you're missing what I'm saying.

    The actual media with just the film and associated commentaries plays over 2 discs for each film, so six discs for just the three movies. Considering there are three or four commentaries, plus the DTS track, plus the 1-3 SAP tracks taking up a lot of the space on the disc, I'd gladly sacrifice several of those (to me) superfluous audio tracks to get just the films and the 6.1 track on one disc each.

    However, considering that fucking no one is using dual-layer BRDs for some reason unknown to me, I don't think there's any possible way to get all of ROTK on just one disc; the 1080p transfer on its own almost takes up all the space on a single-layer BRD, never mind the audio.

    If I remember right there's FOUR commentary tracks per movie. Sure, some of those commentary tracks may be superfluous (if I remember right there's a Peter Jackson track, an actors track, a design team track and a production crew track), but considering this is supposed to be the 100% definitive Blu-ray version fans would scream bloody murder if even one of them was taken out.

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  • CenoCeno Chumble spuzz. Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=79486

    Dori, Nori, and Ori first look. Won't let me embed on my phone. They look great.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    They seem to be having success in making the different dwarf characters distict from one onother. I was wondering how they would do that, as most Dwarf looks are all stocky, bearded and armoured (like Gimli).

    With so many, they ran the risk of them all being a litle "samey".

    I'm excited.

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