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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Can we go back to talking about bears?

    Fuzzy logic is a means of sustaining the Ursidaearchy
    But what if fuzzy wasn't fuzzy...
    HOW DARE YOU

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Can we go back to talking about bears?

    Fuzzy logic is a means of sustaining the Ursidaearchy
    But what if fuzzy wasn't fuzzy...
    HOW DARE YOU
    Sorry baby, I like my clouds smooth

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I guess my confusion is coming from the idea that i see logic and rationality primarily as tools for solving problems

    I've never thought of emotion as a tool for solving a problem. it should definitely factor in to HOW you solve problems, since we're all human and we all feel things, and those should be taken into account. but I have trouble imagining approaching a problem, and then wielding emotion to hammer it out

    This is a fairly common feature of western thinking, but it's important to realize that the belief that rationality and logic as the only tools for deriving truth are neither universal nor grounded in fact.
    I absolutely agree with this. A large portion of the decisions we make are not grounded in any type of logic.
    Shopping behaviors absolutely destroy the logical construct of all decisions.
    There's the guy in Oliver Sack's book, if I remember correctly, whose entire emotional portion of his brain was destroyed, and he will spend hours trying to pick the most logical/best cereal brand.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Don't treat me like potato. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Well the original one quickly went off the manga. Brotherhood is much better.

    Just out of curiosity DK, are you the Donkey Kong on the mc forums who did all the work on biomes?

    Sure am.

    And yeah, I heard the new one is better, but I have plenty of things to fill my leisure time without giving that series a second chance. Plus I hear they do the super deformed thing even more and there's somehow still filler.

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I guess my confusion is coming from the idea that i see logic and rationality primarily as tools for solving problems

    I've never thought of emotion as a tool for solving a problem. it should definitely factor in to HOW you solve problems, since we're all human and we all feel things, and those should be taken into account. but I have trouble imagining approaching a problem, and then wielding emotion to hammer it out

    This is a fairly common feature of western thinking, but it's important to realize that the belief that rationality and logic as the only tools for deriving truth are neither universal nor grounded in fact.

    an example of an alternative would be helpful :(

    or maybe this is my not being studied in formal logic coming over to bite me. maybe i use emotional approaches that i think are perfectly rational? I dunno.

  • SarksusSarksus playing tennisRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Fullmetal Alchemist was the best representation of a fake science ever produced! Even better than Sailor Moon's Nudity Transformation Principle.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Are we agreed that in order to define a term one need rely upon the rules of logic, specifically the law of non-contradiction?

    If so, not sure how Arivia can get her shit off the ground.

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I wish I could watch The Wire again for the first time with no knowledge of what would happen. It's such a great experience :(

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Damnit, where are you Inquisitor. The third story is cut-off. The preview is over!

    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I guess my confusion is coming from the idea that i see logic and rationality primarily as tools for solving problems

    I've never thought of emotion as a tool for solving a problem. it should definitely factor in to HOW you solve problems, since we're all human and we all feel things, and those should be taken into account. but I have trouble imagining approaching a problem, and then wielding emotion to hammer it out

    This is a fairly common feature of western thinking, but it's important to realize that the belief that rationality and logic as the only tools for deriving truth are neither universal nor grounded in fact.

    an example of an alternative would be helpful :(

    or maybe this is my not being studied in formal logic coming over to bite me. maybe i use emotional approaches that i think are perfectly rational? I dunno.

    Some "eastern" modes of thought are heavily invested in intuition; look at things like zen and the concept of transmissions outside the scriptures, or the kinds of argumentation used in the development of the abidharma, which differ significantly from western approaches to logic.

    These aren't necessarily the best examples, simply ones with which I have some familiarity

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • SarksusSarksus playing tennisRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I guess my confusion is coming from the idea that i see logic and rationality primarily as tools for solving problems

    I've never thought of emotion as a tool for solving a problem. it should definitely factor in to HOW you solve problems, since we're all human and we all feel things, and those should be taken into account. but I have trouble imagining approaching a problem, and then wielding emotion to hammer it out

    This is a fairly common feature of western thinking, but it's important to realize that the belief that rationality and logic as the only tools for deriving truth are neither universal nor grounded in fact.
    I absolutely agree with this. A large portion of the decisions we make are not grounded in any type of logic.
    Shopping behaviors absolutely destroy the logical construct of all decisions.
    There's the guy in Oliver Sack's book, if I remember correctly, whose entire emotional portion of his brain was destroyed, and he will spend hours trying to pick the most logical/best cereal brand.

    Do I buy the healthy cereal or the delicious cereal? Do I live longer and less happily or do I enjoy life over a shorter period of time? How should happiness be defined and measured? Is happiness a goal one should achieve? Is achievement necessary to live a fulfilling life? Is there an objective meaning to life or are we left to create our own meaning and therefore can we discard the necessity to live a fulfilling life? What is it to be?

  • WashWash Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The advantage Rivs has here is she doesn't need to make a strong argument, so long as she knows she's right... in her heart

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Spoiler:

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Jesus Matt, spoiler dat yeah? :P

    Sarksus: what do you think of what you got to read so far?

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I guess my confusion is coming from the idea that i see logic and rationality primarily as tools for solving problems

    I've never thought of emotion as a tool for solving a problem. it should definitely factor in to HOW you solve problems, since we're all human and we all feel things, and those should be taken into account. but I have trouble imagining approaching a problem, and then wielding emotion to hammer it out

    This is a fairly common feature of western thinking, but it's important to realize that the belief that rationality and logic as the only tools for deriving truth are neither universal nor grounded in fact.

    an example of an alternative would be helpful :(

    or maybe this is my not being studied in formal logic coming over to bite me. maybe i use emotional approaches that i think are perfectly rational? I dunno.

    Some "eastern" modes of thought are heavily invested in intuition; look at things like zen and the concept of transmissions outside the scriptures, or the kinds of argumentation used in the development of the abidharma, which differ significantly from western approaches to logic.

    These aren't necessarily the best examples, simply ones with which I have some familiarity

    So are western modes. Fucking mystical revelations.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited November 2010
    _J_ wrote: »
    Are we agreed that in order to define a term one need rely upon the rules of logic, specifically the law of non-contradiction?

    If so, not sure how Arivia can get her shit off the ground.

    Non-contradiction? No way! You try and take all the fun out of things, J.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Well the original one quickly went off the manga. Brotherhood is much better.

    Just out of curiosity DK, are you the Donkey Kong on the mc forums who did all the work on biomes?

    Sure am.

    And yeah, I heard the new one is better, but I have plenty of things to fill my leisure time without giving that series a second chance. Plus I hear they do the super deformed thing even more and there's somehow still filler.

    :^: Seriously you've done a lot for biome support. Also your map editing biome tools looks nice. Plan to use it on the G&T server whenever the lighting bug is fixed.

    I don't remember seeing any filler but its been a bit.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The Tao that agrees with _J_'s conception of definition requiring non-contradiction is not the true Tao.

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • WashWash Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I love creating a really likable character, developing that character and putting them through the wringer, give them victories and losses, and then once they've reached the pique of their awesomeness, kill them off. I love doing that a lot.

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  • SarksusSarksus playing tennisRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Damnit, where are you Inquisitor. The third story is cut-off. The preview is over!

    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    I could read part of it but I'd rather not.
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Jesus Matt, spoiler dat yeah? :P

    Sarksus: what do you think of what you got to read so far?

    I liked the second story more.
    Spoiler:

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I love creating a really likable character, developing that character and putting them through the wringer, give them victories and losses, and then once they've reached the pique of their awesomeness, kill them off. I love doing that a lot.

    Nice try, Joss Whedon

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Don't treat me like potato. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Well the original one quickly went off the manga. Brotherhood is much better.

    Just out of curiosity DK, are you the Donkey Kong on the mc forums who did all the work on biomes?

    Sure am.

    And yeah, I heard the new one is better, but I have plenty of things to fill my leisure time without giving that series a second chance. Plus I hear they do the super deformed thing even more and there's somehow still filler.

    :^: Seriously you've done a lot for biome support. Also your map editing biome tools looks nice. Plan to use it on the G&T server whenever the lighting bug is fixed.

    I don't remember seeing any filler but its been a bit.

    Heh, I didn't write the thing that makes biomes bigger and alters terrain generation. That was Bucky. I did some of the initial groundwork and made a tool that can spit out biome values for use by map programs.

    I've decided not to release any mods until the codebase settles down. I've written more than a few for myself and I've shared things I've discovered about how the code works, but spending forever on a mod, then getting a billion support requests and having to rewrite each week? I'll pass for now.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    also pique isn't the word you were looking for

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I love creating a really likable character, developing that character and putting them through the wringer, give them victories and losses, and then once they've reached the pique of their awesomeness, kill them off. I love doing that a lot.

    Nice try, Joss Whedon

    What?

    He didn't mention anything about love. PUH-LEEZE.

    “This is America. We’re entitled to our opinions.”
    “Wrong. This is Texas. And my opinion is the only one that counts."
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Damnit, where are you Inquisitor. The third story is cut-off. The preview is over!

    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    I could read part of it but I'd rather not.
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Jesus Matt, spoiler dat yeah? :P

    Sarksus: what do you think of what you got to read so far?

    I liked the second story more.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Glad to hear you are digging it.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Well the original one quickly went off the manga. Brotherhood is much better.

    Just out of curiosity DK, are you the Donkey Kong on the mc forums who did all the work on biomes?

    Sure am.

    And yeah, I heard the new one is better, but I have plenty of things to fill my leisure time without giving that series a second chance. Plus I hear they do the super deformed thing even more and there's somehow still filler.

    :^: Seriously you've done a lot for biome support. Also your map editing biome tools looks nice. Plan to use it on the G&T server whenever the lighting bug is fixed.

    I don't remember seeing any filler but its been a bit.

    Heh, I didn't write the thing that makes biomes bigger and alters terrain generation. That was Bucky. I did some of the initial groundwork and made a tool that can spit out biome values for use by map programs.

    I've decided not to release any mods until the codebase settles down. I've written more than a few for myself and I've shared things I've discovered about how the code works, but spending forever on a mod, then getting a billion support requests and having to rewrite each week? I'll pass for now.

    Oh I know. The tool that can spit out biome values for map programs is extremely valuable. It'll make the new map post bug fix a lot easier.

  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I got busy at work and decided to catch up on [chat]

    I can't believe I actually read the last several pages

    Why did I do that

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    Senj, give us a new [chat].

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