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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous WALK 3X FASTER New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    What version of B&S are you guys playing that's giving you such a hard time? o_O

    Especially compared to PoP.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    I know I've got the PoP achievement for killing 50 guys in a battle by myself, and it felt like a lot less than I'd done in big warband/vanilla battles so hundreds would not be out of the question.

  • ArchonexArchonex Registered User
    Scooter wrote: »
    From a couple pages back, but I'd like to note that the Star Wars mod had one glaring error: M&B's AI cannot deal with every mob having a powerful and accurate ranged weapon. You can win every fight by just standing there and shooting the enemy as they charge at you.

    Personally I find PoP's difficulty to be exactly my speed. One of vanilla's main problems is that it's really, really easy once you learn how to slice a dude's neck from horseback. I'm pretty sure I've fought battles in vanilla where my own personal bodycount was in the hundreds, cases where my army would be wiped out and I'd finish off the enemy on my own.

    On the other hand, the later versions of the game counter-balanced this with some hilariously overpowered melee units.

    Watching twenty jedi knights streak across the land-scape at Mach 5, and proceed to butcher their way through fifty droids is pretty fucking awesome.


    I'm pretty sure the Star Wars mod would be quite awesome in Fire and Sword. Though, you're right that the AI in vanilla has way too many flukes for it to be decent over a long playing session. It had some awesome scenes though, and the space combat looked like it would have been nice, if they ever got it to work right.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I have just pissed off the D'Shar Principalities to make a little headway with the Noldor. I regret nothing. They are also the only one to capture a foreign city, so I think I found my battle plan for the rest of this character.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    I have just pissed off the D'Shar Principalities to make a little headway with the Noldor. I regret nothing.

    Nor should you. This is a good trade.

    D'Shar troops are terrible at holding territory.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    Though they're pretty good at gutting garrisons, those Bladesmasters and Scorpians are freaking ninjas.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    What version of B&S are you guys playing that's giving you such a hard time? o_O

    Especially compared to PoP.

    didn't cannons get nerfed hella recently? I mean thats good because that was about the only thing that stopped my barbarian from ripping up 500 man armies by himself, but yeah B&S should not be more difficult then PoP

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  • BurnageBurnage Just a harmless flower Registered User regular
    TimFiji wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Fire and Sword also has a fast forward button, which is something that should have been in the series since the start.

    I guess the option would be nice, but I like the pace of that. It's like the Ocean of Tears in everquest. I go get a meal when I have to travel a long way so I can come back and see what ambushed me.

    Actually, if you hold down Ctrl and space, the game goes into fastforward (at least for warband). It's one of those things they don't tell you about, but REALLY SHOULD.

    ... It's in Warband as well? Fuck.

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    What version of B&S are you guys playing that's giving you such a hard time? o_O

    Especially compared to PoP.

    didn't cannons get nerfed hella recently? I mean thats good because that was about the only thing that stopped my barbarian from ripping up 500 man armies by himself, but yeah B&S should not be more difficult then PoP

    Yeah cannons got nerfed hard. Merc Cannoneers aren't worth it and hand cannons can't pierce any more from what I've noticed. So it's mostly stuff that penetrated armors/lances/bows now.

    Like, a headshot with a handcannon won't kill a guy in armor any more and sometimes even bandits can take a shot to the chest with one.

    Granted this was necessary as Merc Cannoneers could win battles that were 1:25 in the enemies favor.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    What version of B&S are you guys playing that's giving you such a hard time? o_O

    Especially compared to PoP.

    didn't cannons get nerfed hella recently? I mean thats good because that was about the only thing that stopped my barbarian from ripping up 500 man armies by himself, but yeah B&S should not be more difficult then PoP

    Yeah cannons got nerfed hard. Merc Cannoneers aren't worth it and hand cannons can't pierce any more from what I've noticed. So it's mostly stuff that penetrated armors/lances/bows now.

    Like, a headshot with a handcannon won't kill a guy in armor any more and sometimes even bandits can take a shot to the chest with one.

    Granted this was necessary as Merc Cannoneers could win battles that were 1:25 in the enemies favor.

    I had a five hour castle defense that was essentially my cannoneers exploding the enemies as they spawned. I spent the whole time doing various chores around the house, checking in occasionally to make sure my men didn't run out of ammo until they eventually won it. I think it was like 600 against 8000. They really needed a nerf.

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  • BatmantisBatmantis Registered User
    Can someone please tell me how to access the screen with information like relation status with various lords and with ladies I am courting. I was looking at the screen a couple days ago and now I can't remember how I got to it.

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  • farbekriegfarbekrieg Registered User regular
    under reports there is a report for view list of lords by relation and view lists of courtship (in warband anyways)

    speaking of warband, and basic mechanics, i know that you need to diversify you friends skills and what not, but it is possible to have a total cumulative effect of greater than 10 (take training for instance, if i have 3 5s will i level up people quicker, will 7 5 4 in surgery be more effective than just 1 person with 7?)

    How much renown should i build up before becoming a vassal to a lord, ive tried working from like 180ish and 600 before joining and both ways i dont seem to get rewarded with castles or fiefs won (well castles come my way if i win them myself).

    Id say im intermediate in my understanding of mechanics that playing 50 or so hrs gives (on one char). but ive only built 2 or 3 lords over 50 rep and that was just following them around and assisting them for the most part (breaking them out of jail, in fact i check every town and regardless of relations with that faction i break their lords out of jail).

    Speaking of lords and jail is it possible to actually murder them, or is the best you can do is hold onto them until they escape taking faction hit after hit when you turn down their ransom?

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    farbekrieg wrote:
    speaking of warband, and basic mechanics, i know that you need to diversify you friends skills and what not, but it is possible to have a total cumulative effect of greater than 10 (take training for instance, if i have 3 5s will i level up people quicker, will 7 5 4 in surgery be more effective than just 1 person with 7?)

    Training is a unique personal skill. Essentially, your level of training determines how many experience points per day you give to people lower level than you. It stacks across any number of trainers:

    Bob, Level 10, Training 5xp per day
    Susan, Level 6, Training 10 xp per day
    Steve, Level 2, Training 12 xp per day
    John, Level 1, Training 2xp per day

    In this cae, Bob is training Susan, Steve, and John. Susan is training Steve and John. Steve is training John. John isn't training anyone, because no one is lowere level thean him. So, each night:

    Bob gets 0xp
    Susan get (5) 5xp.
    Steve gets (5 + 10) 15xp.
    John gets (5 + 10 + 12) 27xp.

    For "Party" skills, like Wound Treatment or Surgery, only the most effective person at the time's skill ranks count. So, if you have characters with 7, 5, and 4 ranks in Surgery in a battle, only the 7 ranks will count. If he gets knocked out, however, then in the next phase of battle the guy with 5 ranks will apply. The exception is your character; your character provides a bonus to the highest party skill based on your own ranks, starting at 0 for 0 ranks and moving up to +4 at 10 ranks. So, if you've got 8 ranks in Surgery (worth +3), and your party doctor has 10 ranks, he'll act as if he had 13 instead. This bonus applies even if your character is the one with the highest skill level; if the party doctor got knocked out, you'd take over, with an effective 11 Surgery skill (8 + 3).
    How much renown should i build up before becoming a vassal to a lord, ive tried working from like 180ish and 600 before joining and both ways i dont seem to get rewarded with castles or fiefs won (well castles come my way if i win them myself).

    Basically, the "I captured this castle" modifier swamps most other modifiers in the "Who do I give this to?" calculation.
    Speaking of lords and jail is it possible to actually murder them, or is the best you can do is hold onto them until they escape taking faction hit after hit when you turn down their ransom?

    I don't think Lords can ever be permanently murdered, but you can convert them away from a particular kingdom and drive them bankrupt by repeatedly killing their forces.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    OKAY OKAY

    THIS is the best mod.

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/15/pitched-battle-mount-blade-glasgow/


    e~ best for beginners!

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  • teg5511teg5511 Registered User
    If anybody is interested in goofy let's plays of Mount and Blade, I'm attempting to beat the main 'plot' of With Fire and Sword without dying. If I do fall in battle I'm going to delete my character and consider the LP a failure. I'm calling it "Coward Edition" because needing to not die means I'm needing to be a spine-less son of a bitch.

    Let's Play Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword (COWARD EDITON)!

    (based off of calistman222's Bandit Edition)

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  • FleebFleeb Registered User regular
    Brtyenwalda has updated! Looks great. Some weird bugs, but very playable. Tons of new armors and weapons, the detail work they did is fantastic.

  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    That looks pretty cool. I'll have to check that out, but I may wait until the bugs are ironed out as I have plenty to play right now.

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    I recently bought Warband on Steam's sale, and good Lord is it addicting. I ended up siding with the Veagirs, and over a couple month period we steam-rolled the Nords, who I think only have two castles left to their name. About half way through our war with them, we lost Jelbelgi Castle and I went back and took it with my army of sixty or so, and then held off the Nordic counter attack with those same tired men. After only having Ismirala as my lands for a long time, I was awarded the castle. When the Rhodoks wanted to stop our expansion, I held off just under four hundred men with the fifty or so in my castle and the forty or so I had as my army. Then when we had made truce witht he Rhodoks the the Kheargit ( I think that's their name) declared war on us. During our seige of one of their castles I was sent on a scouting mission and was ambushed by one of the khanate's lords. This battle is memorable to me because I led my cavalry against theirs, only to lose my horse and be the first man to lose their mount in the battle, tumbling down in front of the Khanate army. I held my own and managed to grab a new mount and shatter the Khanate, even managing to capture their leader. This game is great at making you feel like a bad-ass once you get used to it.

    I also cracked up when I was randomly given new lands by the king, something called Shulus. I look it up and it's literally in the middle of the tundra, near the edge of the map. Thanks alot m'lord.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Oh, the day I can get Fire and Steel. But for the time being, does anyone have an idea as to how one stops their games from getting corrupted after around 600 days?

  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    never die wrote:
    I also cracked up when I was randomly given new lands by the king, something called Shulus. I look it up and it's literally in the middle of the tundra, near the edge of the map. Thanks alot m'lord.

    But now you can't say he never gives you anything. You'll find yourself doing the same thing when you're king. :P

    "Not happy with my rule? Here's your new fief, jackass"

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    never die wrote:
    I also cracked up when I was randomly given new lands by the king, something called Shulus. I look it up and it's literally in the middle of the tundra, near the edge of the map. Thanks alot m'lord.

    But now you can't say he never gives you anything. You'll find yourself doing the same thing when you're king. :P

    "Not happy with my rule? Here's your new fief, jackass"

    Can you create your own kingdom in vanillia Warband?

    Granted I'm not likely to considering I've had no problems really from Yargolek, besides him being a king, but it would be cool to know.

    Also, the Khanate is horrible at sieges. It seems to me that when you get off their horses they go down like a scythe through a field.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    I've played with mods so much at this point that I can't really say. I think you can in Warband, but I've barely played vanilla.

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  • SkeezicksSkeezicks Registered User regular
    Yes you can create your own kingdom. Basically what you need to do is take a castle or city without being tied to a faction. Keep in mind that this will piss off a few people. You'll need a lot of money because you will be engaged in major warfare when you start your own faction.

  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    never die wrote:
    Also, the Khanate is horrible at sieges. It seems to me that when you get off their horses they go down like a scythe through a field.

    You ain't kidding. In the game I'm playing right now, the Khanate wins basically every battle they fight, but almost always wind up losing territory in their wars. I'm tempted to secede, but my fief is just a single village tucked right in the middle of Khergit territory so I'd probably get crushed. Meanwhile somehow the Rhodoks basically swallowed Swadia whole.

    Have I mentioned that I'm totally hooked on this game?

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Skeezicks wrote:
    Yes you can create your own kingdom. Basically what you need to do is take a castle or city without being tied to a faction. Keep in mind that this will piss off a few people. You'll need a lot of money because you will be engaged in major warfare when you start your own faction.

    You can also go to your Seneschal in your castle and say, "Hey - I want to declare independence and create my own kingdom."

    Again, IIRC.

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  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    never die wrote:
    I also cracked up when I was randomly given new lands by the king, something called Shulus. I look it up and it's literally in the middle of the tundra, near the edge of the map. Thanks alot m'lord.

    But now you can't say he never gives you anything. You'll find yourself doing the same thing when you're king. :P

    "Not happy with my rule? Here's your new fief, jackass"

    When you join a faction and get granted a fief, you always get the absolute poorest fief in the faction.

  • cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote:

    You can also go to your Seneschal in your castle and say, "Hey - I want to declare independence and create my own kingdom."

    Again, IIRC.

    I don't believe so (at least, I don't have that option in my game.)

    That said, you can form your own kingdom by choosing to rebel after being denied a fief you requested.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Oh hey. I picked up warband during the steam sale and now I have like 40 hours going.

    God damn this game is fun. Is there a way to partition mods between saves? I kinda want to have vanilla saves but some of those mods look absolutely amazing.

    Also Surgery and Training are goddamn overpowered as hell.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    God damn this game is fun. Is there a way to partition mods between saves
    It automatically does that, mod saves are kept in the mod sub save folder.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    That's pretty cool.

    Now I have to figure out what kind of abomination of mods I want to stitch together.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    shalmelo wrote:
    never die wrote:
    Also, the Khanate is horrible at sieges. It seems to me that when you get off their horses they go down like a scythe through a field.

    You ain't kidding. In the game I'm playing right now, the Khanate wins basically every battle they fight, but almost always wind up losing territory in their wars. I'm tempted to secede, but my fief is just a single village tucked right in the middle of Khergit territory so I'd probably get crushed. Meanwhile somehow the Rhodoks basically swallowed Swadia whole.

    Have I mentioned that I'm totally hooked on this game?

    They're bad at sieges and downright comical if you catch them when they're raiding a village. They're on foot, you get to be mounted, and there aren't any walls to protect them.

    So when does the game decide that a faction has been eliminated? I helped take the last of the Rhodok castles in a game of vanilla but they've still been registered as a faction the last few days.

    I do have their king rotting in a prison at least.

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  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    They have to lose all their holdings and then it gives them a period of time to try and retake some, I think.

  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    They'll still exist until all lords defect to other kingdoms. Which will happen eventually because they have no fief so they will continually lose rep with their current liege.

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  • FreiFrei Registered User regular
    Playing Brytenwalda. Despite it being a buggy release (the scope of the mod is.. huge) the mod itself is great and extremely detailed. The fact that there are sea battles and sea travel (and that they actually work) is just so awesome. The era it covers is also never covered in games so it's pretty great to be in that time period, it's a mood they capture well.

    Also, one of the playable character skins has an eyepatch... which isn't in enough Warband mods.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    cckerberos wrote:
    Elvenshae wrote:

    You can also go to your Seneschal in your castle and say, "Hey - I want to declare independence and create my own kingdom."

    Again, IIRC.

    I don't believe so (at least, I don't have that option in my game.)

    That said, you can form your own kingdom by choosing to rebel after being denied a fief you requested.

    Sorry for the bad gouge, then - that must only be in PoP.

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  • farbekriegfarbekrieg Registered User regular
    So my current warband vanilla playthrough was an attempt to become empress... as it seemed like the toughest course of the vanilla experience. Id say im about 15% done with it (formed my own kingdom with 2 towns 5 castles and lords are defecting to me. 1505 renown 189 honor rating and 54 right to rule and around 100 hrs played...

    So i want to dig into mods and i know recommendations can get some people riled up, so ill give a vague description of what im looking for and people can let me know what i might be looking for

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    I know everyone is big on PoP but that seems a mighty big step

    great game tho, i consistantly get caught in one more battle, one more one more

  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    Just keep in mind that roughly 90% of mods will mean starting a new save.

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    farbekrieg wrote:
    So my current warband vanilla playthrough was an attempt to become empress... as it seemed like the toughest course of the vanilla experience. Id say im about 15% done with it (formed my own kingdom with 2 towns 5 castles and lords are defecting to me. 1505 renown 189 honor rating and 54 right to rule and around 100 hrs played...

    So i want to dig into mods and i know recommendations can get some people riled up, so ill give a vague description of what im looking for and people can let me know what i might be looking for

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    I know everyone is big on PoP but that seems a mighty big step

    great game tho, i consistantly get caught in one more battle, one more one more
    The Floris mod pack does most/all of this, plus much more, I believe.

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  • farbekriegfarbekrieg Registered User regular
    sounds fun, up to 50% of the map so another day or 3 tops and ill be done with vanilla, damn i choose my vassals poorly, i go out and conquer cities and towns and give them to them, and all they do is bitch and moan... speaking of which, if you wait to hear what your vassals want to do with a town/castle will it improve my faction with them? i have higher reputations with enemies than my own people :(

  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    I think the more vassals you have, the lower your relationship with them. Or something like that.

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