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Starcraft 2: Trus is home! EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION TO TRUS ALL THE TIME FOREVER

3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
edited December 2010 in Games and Technology
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The Starcraft II discussion thread



So you wanna craft some stars, huh?

It's cool, we've all wanted to play Starcraft 2 even when we didn't want to admit it. Sure, we'd say mean and hateful things like, "Supreme Commander is sooo much better." or "Starcraft 2 is just Starcraft 1 with better graphics." You may be right, you may also be extremely stupid but who's to say?

The truth is that this SC2 thread goes a million miles per hour and will leave you in the dust if you aren't prepared. All things are open to discussion here from build orders, practice partners, race match-ups, tournament talk, and general bizarre Korean stuff (usually brought to you by the letter S and the number 86). In order to keep up, I highly recommend you bookmark the following sites:

The Day[9] Daily Live Stream. Sean "Day9" Plott is an 11 year Starcraft veteran, so he knows his shit. He does a live stream Sunday through Thursday that airs 7pm PST/10pm EST. If you miss a stream, you can watch it, and every other streams he's ever done, in his archives. BOOKMARK HIS SITES! You will not be disappointed.

State of the Game A weekly podcast hosted by Day[9], JP, Tyler, and inControl. If you don't know who these people are, you clearly aren't watching enough SC2 tournament stuff. Just bookmark the damn site and listen to it on the go.

HD Starcraft. Good site for beginners to learn from and watch higher end players as well. Being Youtube videos, you can fast forward and rewind to help learn strategies and build orders.

HuskyStarcraft. The brother site of HD Starcraft. Another good site for watching videos of foreign tournaments and for general learning by watching pros.

Gretorp's live stream. A high level Terran player who has amassed quite a following.

Team Liquid. Team Liquid is the biggest Starcraft related fan site out on the Internet today. They follow everything Starcraft related including the pro scene. Many great articles, forums, and information can be found here. A must bookmark for any Starcraft fan.

Starcraft II Liquipedia. Team Liquid has created a wikipedia site for everything SC2 related. This will be updated as time goes on and all information found here should be legit as possible.

Team Liquid Tournament Tracker. Want to play in some SC2 tournaments? Bookmark this link to see what's running now and upcoming in the future.

GOM TV.net. The only officially Blizzard backed tournament spot in Korea. Has a dedicated pair of English casters in the form of Artosis and Nick "Tastless" Plott, Day[9]'s older brother. Great high-end play to be found here. No really, watch this if you've never seen how insane the Korean's take to SC2.



OK that's all cool, but I want to play with some PA people. Easy, follow these 5 simple steps.
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A list of other PA related SC2 stuff.
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An additional guide to SC2, by Dhal:
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Play in our weekly PA SC2 tournament hosted by S_86!

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CSL3 | Saturday Dec.18.10 8:00pm EST

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Please sign up with the naming format: Name.IdentifierRace (Simon.505P)

Extra sign ups will be listed as reserves. If you are not sure you will be able to make it and want to sign up as a reserve, please send me a PM via PA at s_86 or an Email to curvystarleague@gmail.com with your Name.IdentifierRace

Maps
1 Metalopolis
2 Blistering Sands
3 Shakuras Plateau
Maps were picked randomly from the 1v1 map pool

Format
16 players
Single elimination. Players are seeded randomly
Every match is a best of 3
North American Server

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  • TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Better thread title: Starcraft 2: Trus Trus Trus Trus

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  • foursquaremanfoursquareman Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    So after qualifying for silver on the US server, I'm playing more confidently, and I'm actually doing a lot better in my games on the SEA server!

  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Trus wrote: »
    Better thread title: Starcraft 2: Trus Trus Trus Trus

    you didn't think I would do it did you

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I have been thinking about using my name change and switching to 'Usama_been_ladderin'. This is a correct move, yes/no?

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Movitz wrote: »
    I have been thinking about using my name change and switching to 'Usama_been_ladderin'. This is a correct move, yes/no?

    Duration of novelty notwithstanding I don't think you can have that many characters or any underscores

  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Movitz wrote: »
    I have been thinking about using my name change and switching to 'Usama_been_ladderin'. This is a correct move, yes/no?

    :^:


    Thread title is good now, perhaps add a Malkovich! at the end.

  • DoomninjaDoomninja Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Change it to "Doomninja." It is the best name.

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  • peacekeeperpeacekeeper Brisbane, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Those symbols on the korean f10 menus are warnings about age restrictions, something else can't remember the middle one, and drug use in the game. SK has stricter internet usage rules than 'us'.

  • EzekielEzekiel Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Internet restrictions about drug use? What?

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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Ezekiel wrote: »
    Internet restrictions about drug use? What?
    Look away from the scroll.

  • EzekielEzekiel Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Ezekiel wrote: »
    Internet restrictions about drug use? What?
    Look away from the scroll.

    Huh? What? I'm just getting more confused.

    I'm trying to figure it out...is that an internet cafe thing? A warning to parents that there is drug use in the game? No steroids while playing? Stim packs not advised IRL?

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  • stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Bleh, I forgot I have a friend's 21st on next Sunday. No tourney for me :(

  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ezekiel wrote: »
    Ezekiel wrote: »
    Internet restrictions about drug use? What?
    Look away from the scroll.

    Huh? What? I'm just getting more confused.

    I'm trying to figure it out...is that an internet cafe thing? A warning to parents that there is drug use in the game? No steroids while playing? Stim packs not advised IRL?

    Forget the 'Truth' ads. I'd never start using drugs if they cost 10 hp and only lasted for 15 seconds.

  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Yeah but don't you want to be cool man.

    Maybe get a smoking jacket, join a vulture gang.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    when it comes to real life drugs i dont know why anyone needs a reason to not do it other than how much it costs

    I mean seriously

    you can buy so much stuff for the price of drugs or cigarettes. or alcohol. I mean not that I don't drink alcohol but you can get drunk off a $6-7 bottle of wine just as easily as you can from a $40 bottle of liquor and don't bullshit me that you like the taste because if your aim is to get drunk then you won't taste it after long anyway.

    Tube-san wrote:
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  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Hahah Dhal, I'd have never picked you for a 21 year old.

  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Oh wait crap I have plans this Saturday. Derp. No tourney for me either.

    Dhal: I usually drink the good stuff in small amounts because it tastes good; if I want to get drunk, I start on the good stuff until I'm kinda buzzed and then drink cheap stuff to actually get drunk xD

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  • EzekielEzekiel Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    when it comes to real life drugs i dont know why anyone needs a reason to not do it other than how much it costs

    I mean seriously

    you can buy so much stuff for the price of drugs or cigarettes. or alcohol. I mean not that I don't drink alcohol but you can get drunk off a $6-7 bottle of wine just as easily as you can from a $40 bottle of liquor and don't bullshit me that you like the taste because if your aim is to get drunk then you won't taste it after long anyway.

    Wine is not about getting drunk. I can understand your argument if you said...oh....pabst. But wine? Baaaad example.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Everyone have their own interests. I like good wine, beer and whiskey so I buy it and consider the money well spent. Other people like cars.

    Drugs and tobacco will fuck you up though, it's not about the money in my case.

    Also, you're from Australia mate! Yous guyse make great wine down there. Start supporting your own industry ffs.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Good wine does not taste any better than cheap wine and I will defend this statement to the day I die.

    I have tasted an $80 bottle of wine and an $8 bottle of wine immediately after each other and I could not discern any noticeable difference in taste.

    Tube-san wrote:
    I apologise for my rudeness desu.
  • peacekeeperpeacekeeper Brisbane, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    So US bnet down?

  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Good wine does not taste any better than cheap wine and I will defend this statement to the day I die.

    I have tasted an $80 bottle of wine and an $8 bottle of wine immediately after each other and I could not discern any noticeable difference in taste.

    I will pray that your taste buds will fully develop one day, because you are missing out on a lot of things in life.

    Although, seeing how most shit down there will outright kill you if you try to eating it, maybe the loss of one or two sensory organs is an evolutionary advantage. <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" />

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  • EzekielEzekiel Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Movitz wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Good wine does not taste any better than cheap wine and I will defend this statement to the day I die.

    I have tasted an $80 bottle of wine and an $8 bottle of wine immediately after each other and I could not discern any noticeable difference in taste.

    I will pray that your taste buds will fully develop one day, because you are missing out on a lot of things in life.

    Although, seeing how most shit down there will outright kill you if you try to eating it, maybe the loss of one or two sensory organs is an evolutionary advantage. <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" />

    Australia has come a long way in wine, gotta give them credit. Just needs to try more than 2 bottles...go out on a tasting sometime. He's in luck too...quite a few wineries around perth.


    Also, fuck marauders.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    yeah but whats the point of wineries

    they're all an hour+ from where I live in Obsorne Park...the Swan wineries are miles to the east, Margaret River is ages away. Taxis cost a small fortune to go 20kms let alone more than that, buses out that far take ages.

    My work occasionally does winery tours, with buses from work to the winery and back again, but whats the point of that? I still have to get home.

    I'll be going on a wine tasting tour early next year when we go on a holiday to Margaret River but one-day wine tours are too hard, logistically.

    Tube-san wrote:
    I apologise for my rudeness desu.
  • SeguerSeguer Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Man when forcefields are good they are GREAT.

    Funnelled a bunch of speedlings and speed banelings into a corridor vs 3-4 collosi.

    Glorious

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Just played a game where I fended off an early cannon rush and transitioned into a normal game.

    Its a good example, I feel, of how to transition into a normal game after being both the victim and the perpetrator of a failed cannon rush, when you're still feeling a bit shaken and "okay, whoa, lets sort this out".

    I didn't really have a plan at first. Had a vague idea of going DTs, so i put down a twilight, then I remembered he'd cannon rushed me so he'd have cannons (turns out he didnt build any at home but the point stands), so I got blink with that and went colossi. He expanded quickly but I was ahead on workers so when I threw down mine later I caught up. Only one major battle really occurred and I crushed him due to 1/1 upgrades against his 1/0 as well as superior colossi positioning.

    Still, I watched the replay and he did well to transition into that force from being behind on workers and having failed at a cannon rush, so worth watching him too if cannon openings are your thing and you'd prefer not to insta-lose when its held off.

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    The key, really, is to stay calm, and hold off the rush with the bare minimum economy of effort. I sort of failed in that as I got supply blocked and didnt throw down a pylon for a LONG time, but it worked out okay in the end.

    Tube-san wrote:
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  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I like Shakuras, lends itself to long macro games when your opponent doesn't cheese himself to death.

    I was also too exhausted and hungry to think about actually reaching T3 (because why would I want that) so I kept throwing away max-food armies through force-fieldable, cannon-and-colossi guarded ramps. Cost ineffective to say the least.

    Luckily 6 bases versus 2 eventually starved him out.

  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    In more interesting news, the leader of the Korean ladder at this very moment?

    NEXExcrement.

    Whaaaaaaaaat?

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Posting a replay here looking for critique...

    this one has a bit of a twist though. I've hit a bit of my wall in my replay analysis. I can watch my play and see that I'm doing some good stuff...but I don't know if its only working due ot mistakes by my opponents or if I'm actually still improving, and because my knowledge of terran and zerg is limited to what they do to me, I'm having trouble accurately evaluating the skill of my opponents.

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    this was a 2100 rated Terran, same level as me, but it seemed like I absolutely slaughtered him. I didn't notice any glaring holes in his macro, but I also wasn't watching him very closely and don't know a lot about Terran to begin with.

    Can anyone poke holes in his play or even poke holes in my play, things that only worked because he didn't do X, etc?

    Tube-san wrote:
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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Just looking from his perspective, I'd say it was a combination of at least two things:

    1) He didn't make enough SCVs.

    2) Really poor attack timing. For his first attack, he had just finished building an Engineering Bay, a Missile Turret, a third Barracks, a Factory, and Starport + Reactor. The only benefit he has gotten out of all of those investments is a couple of Medivacs. Also, he starts building a Command Center as he attacks. Plus, he hasn't even started researching Stim. His army could've been a lot bigger and more effective at that point.

    For his second attack, he has expanded but has not made use of any additional production facilities. He has Stim + Combat Shields, but has not finished or started Weapon or Armour upgrades (you're at +1 Weapons by now). He's built a Raven, but he attacks before it has enough energy for a PDD and it does nothing but absorb some shots. He also has no purpose behind the attack: he clearly doesn't have enough to outright kill you, so the best he can do is trade armies. So what if he does? You'll both still be on 2 bases. All he ends up doing is ceding map control and more supply, allowing you to take a third (and then kill him).

    edit: wait, I forgot that he went to attack a third time, which is just hilarious.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    the third attack was hilarious

    I pretty much crushed it with half my army because I noobed up and split around the centre cavern.

    This is very disheartening though. Everytime I post a win you guys mercilessly harangue my opponent's skill, I wonder if I've ever beaten a good player.

    Tube-san wrote:
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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The best bit was his attack up near my third when he went up onto the plateau. It was a perfect example of how seeing DTs does not necessarily mean you can kill them.

    Speaking of DTs vs Terran, it is hilarious how many Terrans just don't wall in against Protoss. When I see that I immediately rub my hands together and go DTs as fast as I possibly can. 1 gate production can keep you safe against infantry pushes, marine/scv allins can be handled by pulling probes, and with no wall you can walk the DTs right into their base.

    Terran rarely build detection until there is a concrete reason to, simply because of scan. Forgetting that unless you have three scans or more stockpiled, the three DTs from a 3gate DT rush will exhaust all your scans then murder your scvs or army, and they can just keep sending them.

    Once DTs get into your base, they can effectively shut down all attempts to actually get detection.
    And as Terran, you have an easy way to prevent them doing much damage, which is to wall.

    Tube-san wrote:
    I apologise for my rudeness desu.
  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    When is the GSL finals duders?

    GOM website for GSL -> mouse over Next Live.

    So 4 days, 18 hours and 12 minutes from now.

  • DangeriskDangerisk Registered User
    edited December 2010
    I will probably spend a good deal of time playing this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-rh0VZqyng&feature=player_embedded#!

    If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be DANGERISK.
  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Aspiring Game Designer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Yeesh, a few hours late. The SC2 thread waits for no one! :)

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dangerisk wrote: »
    I will probably spend a good deal of time playing this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-rh0VZqyng&feature=player_embedded#!

    gah, dragoons were so much cooler than stalkers :(

  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dragoons were completely retarded as well.

    They did stand up in a fight though, which stalkers are pretty terrible at.

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    that isn't nearly enough blue blood in that video

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