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If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
Depends on which Russians (some people, like Buryats, live almost entirely in the geographic area of Russia, and consider themselves Russians--but aren't by other views), but yes, Ukrainians are a good example of that.
Georgians, ironically, on the other side--many suppose that Stalin's policies benefited Georgia, particularly the Georgian elites, on the issue of Ossetia and Abkhazia, etc., over that of Russians--which led to the Tsibilsi leadership enjoying more independence from Moscow for the time following the war. Though there is dispute on that as well.
:whistle: One of these things is not like the other! One of these things does not belong! :whistle:
Yeah, this is much, much more likely in the US. Any real armed rebellion I think would have to involve some sort of minority group, ethnic or religious. Which is certainly possible, but even then I think it would still take the form of rioting and civil unrest. I don't think the countryside would see much action here. Its the cities that burn.
I'll get my coat.
It is post-World War III. War is outlawed. In its place, are matches between large Robots called Robot Jox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
I think the Skywalker you where thinking of was Luke Skywalker.
Okay, the girl they messed with was his twin sister, but he had the hots for her so the point still stands.
edit: I guess you could count Beru as an "important woman in his life".
I mean yes it is funny, but it was a throwaway line. Time to throw it away.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that the people talking about armed insurrection on television are just mouthing off stuff they don't really understand the full implications of because it sounds nice.
Same as talking about heroism or honor, stuff like that. It's what my father would have delicately called "a bunch of bullshit"
I just hope that the rioters just take the riots out of the poor areas, they dont deserve the riots, the rich suburbs do.
That and I think it would be fascinating to see a suburban riot, if its even possible.
Rather hard to picture.
Actually, just imagine one of those crazy US shopping days, the one after Thanksgiving, whatever its called. Picture that in a suburban strip mall, but those people don't get to shop. Bam, suburban riot.
Basically that and the Pier One is also on fire.
Can't be done. Riots are done on foot and suburbs don't accommodate pedestrian traffic.
This is in many respects how I'd think a modern "rebellion" in a democracy might work though. Trying to force riots to start in the wealthy suburbs, or strategically planning your protests so that they end up on top of them.
Maybe if everyone drove to a suburban area and took all the parking spots. Nothing gets people in suburbs more upset than a stranger parking in front of their house!
Well strictly speaking they don't revolt because of years of brainwashing ,malnourishment and the people that do revolt become decorative lawn ornaments in town square.
However I think the american attitude is different enough that a similar situation would result in some sort of armed revolt.
This. The political commentators who actually throw these ideas around have this romanticized idea of rebellion. Plus, there's the fact that they themselves couldn't be bothered to actually revolt - they just want to have other people do their work for them.
The situation would have to be seriously effed up for people to voluntarily turn their life to shit just to revolt. Living without basic services, hunted by government forces, possibly being turned in by family or friends - and why? Because Glenn Beck didn't get the election result he wanted?
Commentators mentioning rebellion shows how far out of touch with reality the people who claim to be in touch actually are.
Massive Epic Reading Comprehension Fail
There was no national communications and transportation infrastructure in 1881 other than telegrams and railroads. I didn't say there was no police force or army, I said there was no police force or army that can show up in Blackhawks within an hour.
CRASH AND BURN
The American Revolution would have never succeeded if it hadn't actually be orchestrated by a bunch of rich white dudes who borrowed more resources from France. It was a war of the Rich v. the Rich, and we had homefield advantage. Tens of thousands of people still died.
And that's another thing. We've gotten really apprehensive about getting people killed for political cause. Between Iraq and Afghanistan combined we've lost less than a 1/100th of the troops we lost in Vietnam or the Civil War, and we're losing our shit over it.
The reason dictators or oligarchies come to power generally is due to a cabal disguising themselves as populists during a time of economic depression, and once they're in power, strip the means of substantial threat from the population. Look at China, look at South America, look at North Korea; these places are very poor, and the population very undereducated. What are the citizens of these places going to rebel using? Sticks and rocks?
Who is doing this, now?
Joyce Kaufman, radio show Host and former first choice for chief of staff for now Representative Elect Allan West: (There is a shocking video of more of this)
Sharon Angle:
Michelle Bachman: She wanted people "armed & dangerous" about the cap and trade bill.
I wonder if that's where they got the concept for the game Wargasm.
...I'll get my coat.
(I've never heard of 'Robot Jox', that's the closest thing I know of.)
Maybe(and it's a big maybe) mass food shortages and lack of electricity could get some sort of localized riots, but it still won't be an actual insurrection.
Funding? They revolted over a tea tax. A TEA TAX!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iQ7ZDUutU4
Oh shit... current day tea party is kind of a historical analog
What if Obama leaves office only to be replaced by another black guy
I think that might be the Tea Party's tipping point
All mounting 240's on their Rascals
Having Obamacare pay for them
Oh wait.
What it would probably take, though, for me is something that caused me to believe that I could no longer theoretically vote my way out of a problem. A suspended election without an explanation that satisfies me. A blatantly corrupted vote total at the Presidential level. A coup. Minority voters having bad things happen to them en masse (though I'd probably be one of those people and wouldn't even get the chance to rebel). Something like that.
So really, in order for me to feel the necessity of taking up arms, it would probably take multiple personal tragedies directly at the hands of the authorities. Things like family members becoming nonpersons. Otherwise, I'd do what the majority of people down through the ages have done. I'd keep my head down and try to slip through the cracks.
1) Minor taxes
2) Right to own black people
I mean, there is really no connection between those two. The next revolt could be about the Mexicans or the color blue, who knows.
Either way, once they start imprisoning groups of people without due process would be my breaking point. I mean, of course there would be other things too. If our cabinet declared war on Russia tomorrow I would probably be ready to take up arms to remove them from the government.
NO MORE I SAY!!
*grabs gun*
There have been some isolated incidences of actual popular revolt against oppressive circumstances in the United States. Stuff like the Battle of Blair Mountain.
These incidences do not get much press though.
Umm, wow. 1921? One million rounds fired? Second largest insurrection after the Civil War? Hundred people killed? An actual battle involving tens of thousands of people?
Yeah, uhh...why haven't I heard of this before? The hell, history? o_O