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big trouble in little tunis (and now also Egypt)

so, a little widespread corruption here, a bit of nepotism there, some government censorship, high food prices and unemployment, buncha economic inequality, repressed democratic freedoms

you know where this is going

for those of us that are less informed, there are on-going protests in Tunisia (kick started by self-immolation) that have resulted in the dissolution of government, the former president of 23 years fleeing the country after being disposed, forthcoming emergency elections, and estimates of over 100 deaths

summary of the situation on wikipedia

what do y'all think about this? the repercussions on the arabic world at large? there have already been reports of solidarity protests and copycat suicides in other countries

what's your take on the situation

tl;dr pictures: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/01/an_uprising_in_tunisia.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12149160

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  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    kosh be honest

    this is an excuse to remake your cat thread isn't it

    Dubh wrote: »
    Rane is the future of ancient greek tradition
  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    so what ended up happening in sudan?

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    I'm not sure what to think about this.

    I mean, theoretically, it could end very well for them.

    But statistically, that's not likely.

    I really just kind of want to start volunteering. I hear trans people don't fare so well in African/Middle Eastern countries though, so

  • BeastehBeasteh RIP BIG CHRIZZLERegistered User regular
    this is a really shitty situation

    i hope it ends soon without too many hurt/killed

    (it won't)

    the sight of innocent bystanders beaten to death amidst tear gas as the streets filled with protestors is one that wont fade quickly in my memory

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

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  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    Raneados wrote: »
    kosh be honest

    this is an excuse to remake your cat thread isn't it

    sssshhhhhh

  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    your 2nd post gave it away

    your trickery needs work

    Dubh wrote: »
    Rane is the future of ancient greek tradition
  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    this guy is a badass

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    A Tunisian demonstrator holds his breadstick like a weapon in front of riot police during a protest against the country's new government in Tunis on January 18, 2011. (FRED DUFOUR/AFP/Getty Images) #

  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    That is one guilty looking cat.

  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    i think there's always a certain part of the brain that says "well maybe this time that won't happen"

    lighting yourself on fire is rather determined

    plus it's a good media-attention getter

    Dubh wrote: »
    Rane is the future of ancient greek tradition
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Get back! This is loaded with carbohydrates!

  • WietWiet Registered User regular
    Al Jazeera has a pretty good article about the situation in Tunisia. I really hope their new government can pull off a peaceful transition, but it's wait and see for now.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill TEAM NICKRegistered User regular
    I'd like to think that Bouazizi really sparked something major, but I got my hopes up after the Iranian election and was disappointed, so I'm going to wait a bit to see if this spreads or burns out.

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  • BeastehBeasteh RIP BIG CHRIZZLERegistered User regular
    al jazeera is my preferred news network for anything middle eastern

  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    I've been pretty lazy in following this but I do know that a bunch of Saudis are extremely pissed about the Saudi government letting Ben Ali stay in the country. From what I understand a bunch of places turned him down and some places wouldn't even let him fly over their country.

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  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    yeah, he wasn't allowed to land in france and had to reroute mid-air

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    bsjezz wrote: »
    so what ended up happening in sudan?

    there has not been a formal reckoning yet, but informal results are that they voted to secede and northern sudan is saying they'll allow it, so we'll see.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    is this a roundabout way of saying you're stupid for protesting because you'll likely be tear gassed? Because if so that's really stupid.

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    L|ama wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    is this a roundabout way of saying you're stupid for protesting because you'll likely be tear gassed? Because if so that's really stupid.

    No, and apparently you don't know about the parable of the chicken and the pig when discussing breakfast either.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    "parable"

    I've always called it a "lame joke" whenever I'm explaining Scrum to someone.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Well I hope that those policemen were not injured by that baguette

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    "parable"

    I've always called it a "lame joke" whenever I'm explaining Scrum to someone.

    It's actually effective if you break down roles for any large project, especially the people who would fall into the "rooster" position.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    "parable"

    I've always called it a "lame joke" whenever I'm explaining Scrum to someone.

    It's actually effective if you break down roles for any large project, especially the people who would fall into the "rooster" position.

    Looking it up, I see that there is a nice "parable"-like version of it. I first heard it in the "but my ass is on the line" version.

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    Do you know the parable of the pig and chicken when discussing breakfast?

    "parable"

    I've always called it a "lame joke" whenever I'm explaining Scrum to someone.

    It's actually effective if you break down roles for any large project, especially the people who would fall into the "rooster" position.

    Looking it up, I see that there is a nice "parable"-like version of it. I first heard it in the "but my ass is on the line" version.

    OK yeah, if you only get the more dickish version I can see where you look at it more as a joke or just someone covering their ass.

    The strategy of fully committed "pigs" versus helping out "chickens" has saved me a lot of stress over the years.

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  • DruhimDruhim Usagi's cuddlefish Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Koshian wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    I have to say, self immolation is one of the few protesting methods I actually respect. Bitchy chants and misspelled signs are annoying. Sit ins are gay. Anarchists smashing shit is just shitheads being shitheads.

    Lighting yourself on fire however takes a certain level of commitment. I may not agree with you, but I respect your dedication.

    I dunno, it takes a deal of commitment to protest when you know you're more than likely going to face tear gas and clubs and live ammunition

    or just a determination to go fuck some shit up and a high threshold for discomfort because you're used to pissing off people

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    Koshian wrote: »
    this guy is a badass

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    A Tunisian demonstrator holds his breadstick like a weapon in front of riot police during a protest against the country's new government in Tunis on January 18, 2011. (FRED DUFOUR/AFP/Getty Images) #

    Awww! God dammit! I was gonna post this!

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    There was a neat report on NPR last night about how the Tunisian army is protecting the citizens from the police, who outnumber the army like 10 to 1. The army is known for being an actual professionally maintained body, while the police are almost completely intertwined with governmental interests and corruption.

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  • B_RB_R 1991 Worthington Dart ChampionRegistered User regular
    I foresee a military dictatorship

  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    If this was the United States that bread guy would have been shot dead on the spot because a police officer saw the way he was holding it and thought he had a real weapon - and then there would be a ton of people on here saying "Yeah well if you make any kind of motion like you might have a weapon near the police you deserve it."

    And then this thread would be like 40 pages by now instead of two.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    If this was the United States that bread guy would have been shot dead on the spot because a police officer saw the way he was holding it and thought he had a real weapon - and then there would be a ton of people on here saying "Yeah well if you make any kind of motion like you might have a weapon near the police you deserve it."

    And then this thread would be like 40 pages by now instead of two.

    kill yourself

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    If this was the United States that bread guy would have been shot dead on the spot because a police officer saw the way he was holding it and thought he had a real weapon - and then there would be a ton of people on here saying "Yeah well if you make any kind of motion like you might have a weapon near the police you deserve it."

    And then this thread would be like 40 pages by now instead of two.

    kill yourself

    Preferably with fire.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    I can't believe that guy lived.

    I foresee his life being either completely miserable (and short) or really, really awesome.

    e: oh wait, maybe he is dead.

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  • LTMLTM Registered User regular
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    If this was the United States that bread guy would have been shot dead on the spot because a police officer saw the way he was holding it and thought he had a real weapon - and then there would be a ton of people on here saying "Yeah well if you make any kind of motion like you might have a weapon near the police you deserve it."

    And then this thread would be like 40 pages by now instead of two.

    Then Wyclef would write a song, and hipsters would be wearing Free Baguette shirts...

    Also, a little-reported sidenote of this whole conflict, the Pirate Party has gathered a cabinet position in the new Tunisian gov't.

  • VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    wait what happened why is the tunisian govt. transitioning what is it transitioning from what is is transitioning to

    god I have no idea what's going on anymore

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  • Whipstitch ZombieWhipstitch Zombie Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    wait what happened why is the tunisian govt. transitioning what is it transitioning from what is is transitioning to

    god I have no idea what's going on anymore

    it is transitioning

    m2f

  • VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    oh coo

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate Registered User regular
    I kind of wish I still talked to my Tunisian ex-roommates so I could ask them about this.

    For the record, these were the roommates who thought that women could make semen.

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  • Lost SalientLost Salient generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance Registered User regular
    Liiiiiiike in a factory line setting, or as a hobby, or for breakfast next to the toast...?

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