There's hell of coding jobs around the seattle area if that is your thing.
edit: this is including contract work of course.
wellll.....
I can write code, but I have no real paper credentials, and I only know Java and Python.
Well, without the usual ways of getting the first coding job (recent graduate from a comp-sci or math degree, or knowing someone, having a very visible and impressive Thing you created on your own) there is still the Long Way Up. EG: get a contract gig as a tester, work your way up to SDET, leverage that into development. That can take about 3-5 years to get through but they certainly arent bad jobs in the meantime. Even an entry level grunt tester makes at least $12 an hour at the bare minimum (often more).
edit: Oh, and I forgot the important part. Only do this if you really like coding. The job will break you otherwise. Hence why, even when the economy was at it's worst, there was (and still is) a massive shortage of coders worth hiring around here. You think we like dealing with the beurocratic headaches and higher costs that come with H1B visa people? Hell no. But if you don't include them good fucking luck filling a position with someone who is more productive than hiring no-one at all.
(as an aside): it is an oddity of programming that it is very easy for a hire to not only be "not good" but actually be far worse than nothing at all. As in they produce literally nothing of use and create problems that would not have existed had they never been hired. And it can often take weeks or even months to really tell if someone is a good hire or not.
Isn't Perry about to eliminate thousands of jobs from the state government?
Also, ew TEXAS. Blech.
Because thousands of public jobs in a state with over twenty million people will destroy the job growth rate, especially in the private sector, right?
It sure as shit is not going to help, especially since those people who got laid off will be competing with me for jobs and they'll all be more qualified because I'm fresh out of college.
And lots of parts of Texas are hella liberal and have good weather
By "lots of parts" you mean "the counties in the southwest and a few cities"? Republicans control two thirds of the congressional delegation and nearly have supermajorities in both houses of the legislature. Admittedly a lot of that is luck from 2010, but still.
But let's conflate the liberal perception of texas with the situation on the ground
I've studied Texas. I am not labeling the state as a conservative wasteland. I just don't want to live there.
There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
Um, Houston's mayor is a lesbian. And Austin's liberalness is on par with Berkley. Hell they would have the programs San Francisco would if they had the tax base.
This made me look up some websites that had different measures of how liberal a place is. This website looked at average contributions to PACs, adjusted for income, election results, concentration of gay population, etc.
My little hometown in Connecticut is listed as the most liberal place in the state. I knew it was really liberal but I didn't really want to claim anything just on informal observation.
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And then I have to go pay my city tax. And read up on more C. >.<
Speaking of, anyone here around the Seattle/Portland area got any information about the job markets thereabouts for an EE major and a Software Development major/Finance master's degree holder?
Microsoft, Google, Adobe and especially (lately) Amazon all have a substantial number of employees in the greater seattle area.
Are you a recent graduate cause they tend to have special programs for hiring in those (check with your schools career office).
If not, hit up their websites and apply directly and check in with the various contractor agencies in the area (there are literally dozens but these come to mind): Volt, Collabra, XVersity, Excel etc...
edit: There has been hell of jobs popping up in programming since new years. This happens every year of course (things shut down between the week before Thanksgiving and Jan 1st then start up again) but this year has been much more robust than the last couple.
Though the first job is still a bitch and a half. Experience counts for so much.
Yeah, I know it'll be a pain to get started, especially since I have no real EE experience, and my gf has a little from when she was working during her master's degree. That's why I'm brushing up on C and maybe another language while applying. Ideally, I don't want to program because I hear it's pretty soul crushing, but if it's what I gotta do to get my foot in the door, so be it.
Mostly I'm asking because I have no real idea of the state of things back in the States. I hear unemployment is high and noone is hiring, but then I hear it's totally different for engineers and tech fields. And when my dad suddenly starts telling me "Everyone is hiring" after I tell him I'm looking at moving to Australia possibly, I get suspicious. Makes it even harder to decide where we're moving to >.<
There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
Um, Houston's mayor is a lesbian. And Austin's liberalness is on par with Berkley. Hell they would have the programs San Francisco would if they had the tax base.
Again, I have talked to multiple people from Austin, and heard the same story every fucking time:
"Austin is hella liberal; it's like Berkeley, just in the middle of Texas!"
Well, there's always been a huge difference between the job markets for unskilled and skilled jobs. That gulf just keeps getting wider and wider with time.
edit: Also, programming is not soul crushing if you like the job. Even if you don't it beats the hell out of working retail or at a fast food joint or being a telemarketer etc... (and pays about... 5-10x as much as those jobs)
I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd love to visit one day. I really, really want to see Japan, China and Tibet.
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There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
Um, Houston's mayor is a lesbian. And Austin's liberalness is on par with Berkley. Hell they would have the programs San Francisco would if they had the tax base.
Again, I have talked to multiple people from Austin, and heard the same story every fucking time:
"Austin is hella liberal; it's like Berkeley, just in the middle of Texas!"
"So, two guys could just walk down the street holding hands, and that wouldn't be a problem?"
"What? No, of course not. Well, I mean, I guess it would be okay if they were in the gay section of town. And it was at night. On a weekend."
Hey Than, I live here. I've watched gay couples hold hands. Nary a stick, rock nor bottle was thrown. I haven't lived in Austin, but I've also talked to gays who do live there. They say they might get the odd snide remark but they aren't living in fear. Now going outside the cities, yes there is a horrendous problem.
I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
Yeah, the main thing to get your brain around in the states then will be that the way to advance is to change jobs. Sticking with one company for 5 years is a "long haul". Some places (Amazon, Microsoft, Google) have benefits so good that holding yourself back by sticking with one company works out. But, especially if you are a contractor, you have to be willing to walk for a better offer.
I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd love to visit one day. I really, really want to see Japan, China and Nepal.
It's a great place to visit, honestly.
Just make sure you bring enough money to carry yourself, and if you plan on travelling, get the JR Pass. You can ride damn near every train here no extra charge. Including bullet trains, with reserved seating so you don't have to fight to get a seat on the train. My friend went from Hokkaido down to Shikoku in one day just using the pass.
Every time someone tells me "oh, yeah, Austin is as liberal as Berkeley! If you don't believe me, it's probably because you haven't been to Austin," I am convinced that that person has never been to Berkeley.
There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
Um, Houston's mayor is a lesbian. And Austin's liberalness is on par with Berkley. Hell they would have the programs San Francisco would if they had the tax base.
Again, I have talked to multiple people from Austin, and heard the same story every fucking time:
"Austin is hella liberal; it's like Berkeley, just in the middle of Texas!"
"So, two guys could just walk down the street holding hands, and that wouldn't be a problem?"
"What? No, of course not. Well, I mean, I guess it would be okay if they were in the gay section of town. And it was at night. On a weekend."
In my hometown, two guys could stand in the middle on the street at 2pm and make out, no problem.
Because the population is about 2000 during the week and there is no traffic, you see. But also, of the 5 onlookers, 2 would be in the middle of the longest ongoing war protest, one would talk about how sweet is is that they're in love, and the last two would be a mother and her son. The mother would point the couple out to the son and give a super awkward speech about how what is happening is ok, even though the son wouldn't understand the potential hangups with it in the first place.
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I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd love to visit one day. I really, really want to see Japan, China and Nepal.
It's a great place to visit, honestly.
Just make sure you bring enough money to carry yourself, and if you plan on travelling, get the JR Pass. You can ride damn near every train here no extra charge. Including bullet trains, with reserved seating so you don't have to fight to get a seat on the train. My friend went from Hokkaido down to Shikoku in one day just using the pass.
I try not to feel like a weeaboo but it's no secret I really enjoy the aesthetics and cultures of Japan. Something draws me to it, not sure what it is, but I've always wanted to go. China is also somewhere I'd love to visit.
I was a hop, skip and a step away from living in Thailand for 7 weeks, but 2 days before I was going to leave the Bangkok airport was attacked by terrorists :?
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Every time someone tells me "oh, yeah, Austin is as liberal as Berkeley! If you don't believe me, it's probably because you haven't been to Austin," I am convinced that that person has never been to Berkeley.
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Because thousands of public jobs in a state with over twenty million people will destroy the job growth rate, especially in the private sector, right?
And lots of parts of Texas are hella liberal and have good weather
But let's conflate the liberal perception of texas with the situation on the ground
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Texas' unemployment rate isn't that great now, according to Krugman anyway. or are you just messing with Cokebottle or something?
Well, without the usual ways of getting the first coding job (recent graduate from a comp-sci or math degree, or knowing someone, having a very visible and impressive Thing you created on your own) there is still the Long Way Up. EG: get a contract gig as a tester, work your way up to SDET, leverage that into development. That can take about 3-5 years to get through but they certainly arent bad jobs in the meantime. Even an entry level grunt tester makes at least $12 an hour at the bare minimum (often more).
edit: Oh, and I forgot the important part. Only do this if you really like coding. The job will break you otherwise. Hence why, even when the economy was at it's worst, there was (and still is) a massive shortage of coders worth hiring around here. You think we like dealing with the beurocratic headaches and higher costs that come with H1B visa people? Hell no. But if you don't include them good fucking luck filling a position with someone who is more productive than hiring no-one at all.
(as an aside): it is an oddity of programming that it is very easy for a hire to not only be "not good" but actually be far worse than nothing at all. As in they produce literally nothing of use and create problems that would not have existed had they never been hired. And it can often take weeks or even months to really tell if someone is a good hire or not.
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By "lots of parts" you mean "the counties in the southwest and a few cities"? Republicans control two thirds of the congressional delegation and nearly have supermajorities in both houses of the legislature. Admittedly a lot of that is luck from 2010, but still.
I've studied Texas. I am not labeling the state as a conservative wasteland. I just don't want to live there.
There are parts of Texas that are liberal for the South, but that just means that a gay person can walk down the street and not get lynched, provided they aren't acting gay.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Texas is a place I never want to visit.
Um, Houston's mayor is a lesbian. And Austin's liberalness is on par with Berkley. Hell they would have the programs San Francisco would if they had the tax base.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
This made me look up some websites that had different measures of how liberal a place is. This website looked at average contributions to PACs, adjusted for income, election results, concentration of gay population, etc.
http://www.epodunk.com/top10/liberal/
My little hometown in Connecticut is listed as the most liberal place in the state. I knew it was really liberal but I didn't really want to claim anything just on informal observation.
Yeah, I know it'll be a pain to get started, especially since I have no real EE experience, and my gf has a little from when she was working during her master's degree. That's why I'm brushing up on C and maybe another language while applying. Ideally, I don't want to program because I hear it's pretty soul crushing, but if it's what I gotta do to get my foot in the door, so be it.
Mostly I'm asking because I have no real idea of the state of things back in the States. I hear unemployment is high and noone is hiring, but then I hear it's totally different for engineers and tech fields. And when my dad suddenly starts telling me "Everyone is hiring" after I tell him I'm looking at moving to Australia possibly, I get suspicious. Makes it even harder to decide where we're moving to >.<
"Austin is hella liberal; it's like Berkeley, just in the middle of Texas!"
"Oh, really?"
"Yeah, it's super-duper ridiculously liberal! Like, hippie-dippy."
"So, two guys could just walk down the street holding hands, and that wouldn't be a problem?"
"What? No, of course not. Well, I mean, I guess it would be okay if they were in the gay section of town. And it was at night. On a weekend."
And sorry, but fuck Texas and fuck California.
edit: Also, programming is not soul crushing if you like the job. Even if you don't it beats the hell out of working retail or at a fast food joint or being a telemarketer etc... (and pays about... 5-10x as much as those jobs)
But it's not something to get into for the money.
Site gives no indication how many are left.
I still like it, but the gf hates her school so much and changing jobs here is a bitch (this is from a friend of mine who was working as an engineer here). The majority mentality here is basically you do one job for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd love to visit one day. I really, really want to see Japan, China and Tibet.
Hey Than, I live here. I've watched gay couples hold hands. Nary a stick, rock nor bottle was thrown. I haven't lived in Austin, but I've also talked to gays who do live there. They say they might get the odd snide remark but they aren't living in fear. Now going outside the cities, yes there is a horrendous problem.
Yeah, the main thing to get your brain around in the states then will be that the way to advance is to change jobs. Sticking with one company for 5 years is a "long haul". Some places (Amazon, Microsoft, Google) have benefits so good that holding yourself back by sticking with one company works out. But, especially if you are a contractor, you have to be willing to walk for a better offer.
It's a great place to visit, honestly.
Just make sure you bring enough money to carry yourself, and if you plan on travelling, get the JR Pass. You can ride damn near every train here no extra charge. Including bullet trains, with reserved seating so you don't have to fight to get a seat on the train. My friend went from Hokkaido down to Shikoku in one day just using the pass.
In my hometown, two guys could stand in the middle on the street at 2pm and make out, no problem.
Because the population is about 2000 during the week and there is no traffic, you see. But also, of the 5 onlookers, 2 would be in the middle of the longest ongoing war protest, one would talk about how sweet is is that they're in love, and the last two would be a mother and her son. The mother would point the couple out to the son and give a super awkward speech about how what is happening is ok, even though the son wouldn't understand the potential hangups with it in the first place.
I try not to feel like a weeaboo but it's no secret I really enjoy the aesthetics and cultures of Japan. Something draws me to it, not sure what it is, but I've always wanted to go. China is also somewhere I'd love to visit.
I was a hop, skip and a step away from living in Thailand for 7 weeks, but 2 days before I was going to leave the Bangkok airport was attacked by terrorists :?
I've been to Berkeley.