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This thread costs 50 Canadian dollars a post to read

SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Singularity Engine++
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The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) recently ruled that ISPs have the right to charge Internet users with a metered fee for their bandwidth. This goes on top of the already-installed infrastructure that involves ridiculously low bandwidth caps (a middle-of-the-road cable connection today costs around $50 a month for a 40GB cap and $4.50 per extra gigabyte). Basically, very soon all Canadian posters may have to read SE++ on carrier pigeons.

But there are some who resisted.

First there was a Facebook awareness group. A lot of us liked it.

Then the Liberal party, who are currently part of the House of Commons' majoritary opposition, said they would fight for our god-given right to massive amounts of internet titties.

And then the Premier tweeted that he was on our side. Unfortunately, that was all Stephen Harper could afford for the month of February 2011.

So let us rally, Canucks! We all want to stream the Stanley Cup finals in a couple months, don't we?

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FREEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

Everyone should sign this:
http://stopthemeter.ca/

Internet petitions, right?

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    whatever real men build their own internet out of their bootstraps

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I hear in other places they don't have download caps

    what amazing lands these must be, rich in silk and spices

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  • Muse Among MenMuse Among Men Suburban Bunny Princess? Its time for a new shtick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I knew Canadian telecoms were bad but this is really awful. Damn, I feel for ya guys :( You can do it!

  • Muse Among MenMuse Among Men Suburban Bunny Princess? Its time for a new shtick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Someone edit this so she is dressed as a RCMP in the red serge uniform

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  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    My connection seemed to slow down uncharacteristically shortly after I made this thread.

    I think they're onto me.

    If I don't make it, tell Uriel I

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Oh heavens to betsy 40 gigabytes a month whatever will we do without all of our 1080 porn

    I pay $80 a month for 50 gig.

    suck it up, cananda.

  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, this is pretty stupid.

    Wanna stab my ISP.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    yeah now somebody else knows what it's like to deal with new zealand interent

    suck it up

    ($50/mo for 10gb and $15 for every 10 after that here)

  • Muse Among MenMuse Among Men Suburban Bunny Princess? Its time for a new shtick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    We pay like, 110 dollars for phone and cable and internet. What the hell, Pipe?

  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yes but unlike New Zealanders, we are far too polite for anything this bad to ever happen to us.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    yeah now somebody else knows what it's like to deal with new zealand interent

    suck it up

    ($50/mo for 10gb and $15 for every 10 after that here)

    oh and 500kb/s is about the fastest I ever get

  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Whats that I can't quite hear you over these five streaming videos I'm watching

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    so, because things are shitty for you, when things become shitty for anyone else they should just suck it up without a fuss

    okay

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    only in america

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    so, because things are shitty for you, when things become shitty for anyone else they should just suck it up without a fuss

    okay

    He had shitty internet before it went mainstream, okay.

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  • KochikensKochikens Lovely-Cuddle-Blanket-Stephen-Fry-Awesomer Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    so much for getting netflix

  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    free youtubes are what the people want

    not free healthcare

  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    so, because things are shitty for you, when things become shitty for anyone else they should just suck it up without a fuss

    okay

    yes i am being 100% earnest here

  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    As long as our internet is better than Egypt's, we should all be actively striving to make it worse.

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  • VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    Oh heavens to betsy 40 gigabytes a month whatever will we do without all of our 1080 porn

    I pay $80 a month for 50 gig.

    suck it up, cananda.

    wait what

    that ridiculously low cap that I've been hearing so much about is FORTY?

    I PAY $60 A MONTH FOR TWENTY

    QUIT YER BITCHIN YOU SYRUP SUCKERS

  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i read that all the people in the streets in egypt were keeping the interwaves from reaching their computers

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    yeah now somebody else knows what it's like to deal with new zealand interent

    suck it up

    ($50/mo for 10gb and $15 for every 10 after that here)

    #pipe wrote: »
    Oh heavens to betsy 40 gigabytes a month whatever will we do without all of our 1080 porn

    I pay $80 a month for 50 gig.

    suck it up, cananda.

    Man Alive!

    You guys down south deal with some shit. I know video games are expensive, but $50/mo for 10gb?

    That is insane.

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  • FishmanFishman I find your inability to differentiate between 'corruption' and 'feminism' disturbing Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It's more a sort of 'welcome to the club'-type thing.

    Come, let us gather up some meats and cheeses, and bitterly complain about how things cost money. And sometimes they cost more than others!

    My friend's sister is in town from the Falklands. Her husband works for their ISP. He told me what they were paying and how much they got and at what speeds they could get it and I think I actually recoiled in pain.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    eh, canada will get over it. we've had caps in australia since dial-up modems and it's not that big a deal. there will be rip-off merchants just as there will be good deals to be found. it's the nature of competition - if you want it, you'll be able to get it; you just might have to pay more. or search longer.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    so what exactly is the news? Did they just make it legal to have metered internet or just make it legal to charge extra or what?

    Cause I mean we've had both of those forever

    Can't you just choose a ISP that slows your bitrate right down when you hit your cap like we can?

    What happened here is that everyone started out charging extra for for extra bandwidth over your cap, then people started offering slowing it down and everybody jumped on that idea so the other ISPs were forced to follow suit.

    You can basically only in the last year or so get unmetered internet and it costs maybe $100-200 a month.

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    except that part of the Big Deal of this is that it more or less quashes competition entirely

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Printing out this OP

    Mailing it to Somalia

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I really need to know why things are like that in Aus/NZ and now Canada.

    Someone help me to understand these things.

    Fill me with all the knowledge you got, Big Boy.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    except that part of the Big Deal of this is that it more or less quashes competition entirely

    how

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    but the cheeses are fucking expensive too what's the deal with that

    we have like a billion dairy farms here, stupid fonterra



    also my plan is somewhat anomalously shitty, but not very much

    the main ISP (telecom) are still trying to market a 3gb plan I think, after which you go to 8kB/s and it's somehow one of their most popular ones

    the thing that really annoys me is when ISPs try to insinuate that people are being greedy for making use of the service they provide

  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    the main ISP (telecom) are still trying to market a 3gb plan I think, after which you go to 8kB/s and it's somehow one of their most popular ones

    understand the number of internet users who use facebook and email and maybe the odd youtube link and that's it

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I pay 40 dollars a month for unlimited broadband and get ridiculous speeds, my phone also gets unlimited broadband speed for 30 dollars a month.

    Hell yes America.

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Macro9 wrote: »
    I really need to know why things are like that in Aus/NZ and now Canada.

    Someone help me to understand these things.

    Fill me with all the knowledge you got, Big Boy.

    the reason it's so bad in Australia, or at least the reason that we've been forced to swallow, is that the population per square mile is so low that providing infrastructure - cabling and the like - is much more expensive for every person who's actually paying for the service.

    I mean it makes sense in Australia, and to a lesser extent, Canada. I think New Zealand just matches our model to be honest.

  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    my phone plan is for $50 a month and i get 200mb

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  • Muse Among MenMuse Among Men Suburban Bunny Princess? Its time for a new shtick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Langly are you also using TimeWarner? TW is our ISP and that sounds about the same as mine(for the internet individually).

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wimble's gonna show up and make us all jealous of Sweden's insanely fast, stable, cheap internet.

  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    so what exactly is the news? Did they just make it legal to have metered internet or just make it legal to charge extra or what?

    Cause I mean we've had both of those forever

    Can't you just choose a ISP that slows your bitrate right down when you hit your cap like we can?

    What happened here is that everyone started out charging extra for for extra bandwidth over your cap, then people started offering slowing it down and everybody jumped on that idea so the other ISPs were forced to follow suit.

    You can basically only in the last year or so get unmetered internet and it costs maybe $100-200 a month.

    The metered part is the new thing. We've had caps since the 90s. I'm pretty sure the slower internet past the cap is illegal (or at least it's just not going on).

    The big problem with this is that, at least here, all internet access basically goes through a couple companies, Bell or Videotron. Smaller ISPs have to rent their bandwidth from the larger ones, and therefore as soon as the big two choose to impose metered billing for everyone (and if law doesn't prevent them from doing so, they will), it will cascade down to anyone who isn't directly connected to those two (which is an insignificantly small number. I personally don't know anyone whose residential internet isn't connected through Bell or Videotron.)

    There's not enough competition, and therefore nowhere to go for a better deal. It's just begging for regulation, but the problem is what I suspect it also is in Australia or New Zealand: the government basically ignored the internet until long after these practices had become standard. Also why Canada has the laxest cyber-piracy laws in the entire western world.

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Langly wrote: »
    I pay 40 dollars a month for unlimited broadband and get ridiculous speeds, my phone also gets unlimited broadband speed for 30 dollars a month.

    Hell yes America.

    Yes it's pretty sweet.

    All the better to spend hours on WebMD when I get a stomach ache. Because, well, you know.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    bsjezz wrote: »
    my phone plan is for $50 a month and i get 200mb

    dude you are seriously getting buttfucked.

    I pay $65 and get 3 gig.

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