Little tiny mice to hold little tiny wakes all over the world

Grey Ghost

Edcrab wrote: »

There was a horse in the very first book, I imagine there is a single (to scale) cow somewhere that produces enough milk for the entire planet

Milking it is a real bastard for tiny mice, of course

The first book made it seem like there were possibly humans in the world, and also made references to the Christian God and Satan, but those elements were basically abandoned after that

Radius

I watched this movie all the time when I was a kid.

Always so sad when Nicodemus dies.

KalTorak

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Edcrab wrote: »

There was a horse in the very first book, I imagine there is a single (to scale) cow somewhere that produces enough milk for the entire planet

Milking it is a real bastard for tiny mice, of course

The first book made it seem like there were possibly humans in the world, and also made references to the Christian God and Satan, but those elements were basically abandoned after that

Yeah, like the horse was pulling a human-sized cart and it was sort of hard to tell how big the church (St. Ninians?) was.

Langly

hahah god dammit radius

Edcrab

Uh.

OnTheLastCastle

Lord Dave wrote: »

Fuck this world I quit

fuck this gay earth indeed i'm out

Eulaliaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

(wikipedia knows how smart Brian Jacques was! "Eulalia" ("Victory") is the war cry used by the Salamandastron fighting Hares and Badgers. It comes from "Weialala leia", the lament of the Valkyries in Richard Wagner's opera Götterdämmerung, as quoted by T.S. Eliot in The Waste Land.)

KalTorak

I still have no idea to pronounce that stupid war cry.

OnTheLastCastle

Here is one for you then, Kal:

LOGALOGALOGALOGALOGALOGALOG

zimfan

In mexico all we had was the animated series

I remember liking it

Tam

aaaawwwww god dammit
Martin the Warrior was one of my favorite childhood characters

Darmak

I loved his books back in middle school. I tried getting my aunt to read them, since she loves small fuzzy animals but she was pissed that ferrets were always bad guys (she owns like 10 ferrets).

KalTorak

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Here is one for you then, Kal:

LOGALOGALOGALOGALOGALOGALOG

Shrews are more badass anyway.

Langly

I think it was a McSweeny's article? Where they went over how his books could be seen as thinly veiled racist novels.

smof

KalTorak wrote: »

I still have no idea to pronounce that stupid war cry.

you-lay-lia?

YoSoyTheWalrus

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE DIE

Edcrab

Darmak wrote: »

I loved his books back in middle school. I tried getting my aunt to read them, since she loves small fuzzy animals but she was pissed that ferrets were always bad guys (she owns like 10 ferrets).

Did Jacques ever address the "vermin are all evil" angle or did he stick to it in later books too?

Xaquin

Suggested reading for those of you not in the know:


* Redwall (1986)
* Mossflower (1988)
* Mattimeo (1989)
* Mariel of Redwall (1991)
* Salamandastron (1992)
* Martin the Warrior (1993)
* The Bellmaker (1994)
* Outcast of Redwall (1995)
* The Pearls of Lutra (1996)
* The Long Patrol (1997)
* Marlfox (1998)
* The Legend of Luke (1999)
* Lord Brocktree (2000)
* The Taggerung (2001)
* Triss (2002)
* Loamhedge (2003)
* Rakkety Tam (2004)
* High Rhulain (2005)
* Eulalia! (2007)
* Doomwyte (2008)
* The Sable Quean (2010)

Be warned, you will come away happy and hungry.

Burr o urrr

Darmak

Edcrab wrote: »

Darmak wrote: »

I loved his books back in middle school. I tried getting my aunt to read them, since she loves small fuzzy animals but she was pissed that ferrets were always bad guys (she owns like 10 ferrets).

Did Jacques ever address the "vermin are all evil" angle or did he stick to it in later books too?

I don't know, I think the last one of his books that I read was "Outcast of Redwall"

Langly

Damn I can't find it now.

KalTorak

Edcrab wrote: »

Darmak wrote: »

I loved his books back in middle school. I tried getting my aunt to read them, since she loves small fuzzy animals but she was pissed that ferrets were always bad guys (she owns like 10 ferrets).

Did Jacques ever address the "vermin are all evil" angle or did he stick to it in later books too?

Once in a while you got a good one. That one rat (i think) in "Mariel of Redwall" turned out to be a good guy, and Veil in "Outcast" reformed at the last second.

smof

Yeah that used to irritate me even when I was reading it as a kid. Even in Outcast of Redwall, you have this stoat(?) that was raised by the Redwall people, but still turned out to be a massive dick, because apparently stoats are genetically determined to be dicks.

edit: Ok maybe I'm not remembering right. It's been a long time since I read them.

KalTorak

YoSoyTheWalrus wrote: »

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE DIE

Spoiler:

Rose

RoyceSraphim

I have never read Redwall, I have seen the cartoon and do remember my skill martial arts friend doing something incredible to enter the dorm lounge as I watched it before my family picked me up for church.

*kung fu entrance*

HIM:They made a Redwall Cartoon?????
Me: Uhhh....Yes?
HIM:Good, here's that filipino dish of chocolate rice and coconut milk
*kung fu exit*
Me:.....thats good rice.

Langly

Oh I found it, it was a thing on Something Awful of all places.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/bargain-book-bin-3.php

KalTorak

smof wrote: »

Yeah that used to irritate me even when I was reading it as a kid. Even in Outcast of Redwall, you have this stoat(?) that was raised by the Redwall people, but still turned out to be a massive dick, because apparently stoats are genetically determined to be dicks.

edit: Ok maybe I'm not remembering right. It's been a long time since I read them.

Nah, he was a dick for like 95% of his existence in the book. Then at the very end he's like "Wait dad, don't kill her," BAM, javelined.

smof

thinking back to the scene in Mattimeo where Slagar takes off his mask still creeps me out.

DrIanMalcolm

The Long Patrol is so boss

Franko

Xaquin wrote: »

* Redwall (1986)
* Mossflower (1988)
* Mattimeo (1989)
* Mariel of Redwall (1991)
* Salamandastron (1992)
* Martin the Warrior (1993)
* The Bellmaker (1994)
* Outcast of Redwall (1995)
* The Pearls of Lutra (1996)
* The Long Patrol (1997)
* Marlfox (1998)
* The Legend of Luke (1999)
* Lord Brocktree (2000)
* The Taggerung (2001)
* Triss (2002)
* Loamhedge (2003)
* Rakkety Tam (2004)
* High Rhulain (2005)
* Eulalia! (2007)
* Doomwyte (2008)
* The Sable Quean (2010)

I own all of these in hardcover

KalTorak

smof wrote: »

thinking back to the scene in Mattimeo where Slagar takes off his mask still creeps me out.

That was a pretty cool callback to the first book. Asmodeus rocks.

Solar

The first Redwall book was the best

but I enjoyed so many of them

Martin the Warrior was a total badass

Lord Dave

I had a rabbit named Tarquin but he died

QuestionMarkMan

WHAT? Man, I LOVED Redwall as a kid.

We were members of the fan club and they would send the coolest Christmas cards from the UK.

HellaJeff

I read 5 of these before I realized the plot was exactly the same, to the point where ambushes happened on almost identical page numbers

Still a mousey coven in my heart though

Xaquin

Franko wrote: »

Xaquin wrote: »

* Redwall (1986)
* Mossflower (1988)
* Mattimeo (1989)
* Mariel of Redwall (1991)
* Salamandastron (1992)
* Martin the Warrior (1993)
* The Bellmaker (1994)
* Outcast of Redwall (1995)
* The Pearls of Lutra (1996)
* The Long Patrol (1997)
* Marlfox (1998)
* The Legend of Luke (1999)
* Lord Brocktree (2000)
* The Taggerung (2001)
* Triss (2002)
* Loamhedge (2003)
* Rakkety Tam (2004)
* High Rhulain (2005)
* Eulalia! (2007)
* Doomwyte (2008)
* The Sable Quean (2010)

I own all of these in hardcover

nice

I own most of them in Paperback

and one in HC

I may have to rectify this

smof

I think I still have all of mine, up in the attic. I had everything from Redwall up to Pearls of Lutra, except for Mossflower I think. I kind of feel like re-reading them but I wonder if it would ruin the nostalgia.

Blankzilla

I remember one of the books had a recipe for "Hotroot Soup" so I asked me mom who begrudgingly made it

oh my god it was so good

Dichotomy

I read every book from Redwall to I think Lord Brocktree? at least fifty times each

my copy of Redwall is so damn worn
I liked this dude

Baidol

So I typed "Hotroot soup recipe" into Google and got this.

I don't know if any of them are authentic.

Lord Dave

I have a bunch of signed hardcovers, but I think I'm behind like 5 books.

KalTorak

I always imagined Hotroot Soup being like a really spicy New England Clam Chowder, but with shrimp instead of clams.