I liked it less than my 2000 Saturn LS2 and my 1994 Geo Prizm, so that's saying something.
As soon as I can get rid of it, I will. But my damaged credit at the time of purchase ensures that I'll be with this thing for at least another year or two.
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I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
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I drive an oldsmobile 88. It's pretty ugly but I feel like I'm driving a tank when I'm inside it, which is nice
As a rule, we, as insurance companies will fuck you up the ass at every opportunity
Well yes... that is what they do.
Insurance industry is one of the few places where I think government regulation needs to happen. Deregulation depends on people being decent to each other... and if there's one thing insurance people aren't, is decent. At least the higher ups.
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edited February 2011
Don't be stupid.
Only by deregulating every industry/service entirely will we allow the free market to truly flourish, and provide every human being with everything they could ever need at maximum quality and the lowest possible price.
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Yep. I read a Time magazine for the first time in about 10-12 years on Friday, and the republican midichlorian count is through the fucking roof in that rag.
I don't remember it being that bad pre-Bush v2.0...
The cover story was basically 'Obama wants to suck Reagans dick', immediately following that was a half-dozen page spread about why Reagan was, is, and will always be the world's greatest politician and financial strategist.
I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
he's not even american, don't listen to him
Oh god I could start driving on the wrong side of the road any minute!
I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
he's not even american, don't listen to him
Some old Australian cars used to have shitty handbrakes like that. You just have to get used to using it.
Man I didn't get to use no handbrake when doing the hill start thing.
Just use the break, clutch and first gear. When you've eased the clutch enough for the engine to pull slightly without gas, ease off the break (If you start rolling backwards you need to press the break down again and ease off the clutch some more) and start applying gas while easing off the clutch.
I hate driving cars I don't know because knowing where that magic clutch position is can be hard if it's not a car you're used to. Usually you will hear the engine make different sounds though.
I actually kind of enjoy driving manual, and will do so a lot more when I can properly make the car go forward from a full stop every time.
But it's a lot less fun when you stop at a light on a hill and some jackass decides he needs to stop .02 inches behind your bumper.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
he's not even american, don't listen to him
Some old Australian cars used to have shitty handbrakes like that. You just have to get used to using it.
red white and blue gravity works differently. You just have to wildly over-rev and smoke-em.
Also I reaaaallllyyyyy want a new car for the next winter.
Yay the insides sometimes get covered in ice requiring me to scrape off the ice both on the outside and the inside. Yay sometimes the gas pedal is frozen into place and I need to violently step on it wasting gas. Yay sometimes the car just shuts itself off while in motion. Yay shifting into third and first can be a bitch. Yay to all this shit.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Man I didn't get to use no handbrake when doing the hill start thing.
Just use the break, clutch and first gear. When you've eased the clutch enough for the engine to pull slightly without gas, ease off the break (If you start rolling backwards you need to press the break down again and ease off the clutch some more) and start applying gas while easing off the clutch.
I hate driving cars I don't know because knowing where that magic clutch position is can be hard if it's not a car you're used to. Usually you will hear the engine make different sounds though.
See you can do that in a modern car because if your car has EFI it will (probably) also have a little device on the throttle body that will try to stop the car from stalling.
Older cars don't.
So doing that on a steeper hill just results in stalling.
Yeah I'm still learning that magic clutch position and it's a pain. It seems like 90% of the clutch action is just useless space and whoops now the engine is off on a green light. Once it's off though, goddamn, that clutch better be pressed to the floor like a lover or the engine isn't going to give me the time of day when the key is turned.
Who the fuck uses a handbrake for an uphill start in a manual?
Lazy bastards who shouldn't be driving manuals...that's who.
Learn to actually drive the car. Be able to shift without looking at the revs. Get good enough to actually work the clutch, break AND gas in collaboration with each other.
Man I didn't get to use no handbrake when doing the hill start thing.
Just use the break, clutch and first gear. When you've eased the clutch enough for the engine to pull slightly without gas, ease off the break (If you start rolling backwards you need to press the break down again and ease off the clutch some more) and start applying gas while easing off the clutch.
I hate driving cars I don't know because knowing where that magic clutch position is can be hard if it's not a car you're used to. Usually you will hear the engine make different sounds though.
See you can do that in a modern car because if your car has EFI it will (probably) also have a little device on the throttle body that will try to stop the car from stalling.
Older cars don't.
So doing that on a steeper hill just results in stalling.
Well you can also just really quickly start giving gas and ease off the clutch... If you're quick.
I'm in a country where you don't use handbrakes for four months because they might freeze.
Who the fuck uses a handbrake for an uphill start in a manual?
Lazy bastards who shouldn't be driving manuals...that's who.
Learn to actually drive the car. Be able to shift without looking at the revs. Get good enough to actually work the clutch, break AND gas in collaboration with each other.
Don't use the handbrake.
When I drove a manual, I never used the handbrake.
In fact I had disconnected it once when I was doing some suspension work on my truck and forgot to re-connect it.... for 2 months.
Your engine is pretty good about telling you when to shift. I still glance at the dash every time to be sure I'm at 2500 before shifting, but it seems like it'll be a really easy habit to build to keep from having to look at all.
Who the fuck uses a handbrake for an uphill start in a manual?
Lazy bastards who shouldn't be driving manuals...that's who.
Learn to actually drive the car. Be able to shift without looking at the revs. Get good enough to actually work the clutch, break AND gas in collaboration with each other.
Don't use the handbrake.
When I drove a manual, I never used the handbrake.
In fact I had disconnected it once when I was doing some suspension work on my truck and forgot to re-connect it.... for 2 months.
When you never, do you mean not even when at a junction waiting to turn for a while, or at traffic lights/roundabout?
I ain't got no rev counter, I ain't need no rev counter.
Going from the driving schools BMW with all the fucking security and hi-tech shit of modern cars (ABS break, Traction control, a screen that would tell you what gear you should use, automatic wipers, basically all kinds of shit) to a car without any of that shit was fun as hell.
Great, thanks for teaching me to drive on ice with a car that doesn't require more or less any amount of thinking. One driving school used an old mazda for this very reason.
Pretty much only use the handbrake if I wanna leave the car running on idle for a while to warm it up or something.
Because that's the only way to keep it from rolling away away.
Driving a manual on ice sounds kind of like a nightmare.
Lowest gear possible and just keep it rolling slowly but steadily. If you're going downhill, low gear, in neutral, clutch all the way down and apply the breaks carefully.
Driving a manual on ice sounds kind of like a nightmare.
You're pretty much required to learn how to drive manual in this country.
I think you can get a license for automatic cars only, but there are very few driving schools that do this. I have never driven an automatic, probably never will. I like having control.
I drive a 2001 Camry. It's a nice car. Would be nicer if someone hadn't smashed into it while it was parked a few months back and drove off without leaving any insurance information, but you know. It still drives.
I kind of want to go to an auto body place to get a quote on getting it fixed by professionals, but I'm dreading the cost.
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When I was first learning to drive a manual...well...I know what you mean.
Eventually you'll get the hang of it.
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I don't like it all.
I liked it less than my 2000 Saturn LS2 and my 1994 Geo Prizm, so that's saying something.
As soon as I can get rid of it, I will. But my damaged credit at the time of purchase ensures that I'll be with this thing for at least another year or two.
Just practice your hill-starts on a quiet (hilly) road.
When you stop, put the handbrake on. Then when you're ready to take off, give it a little revs and ease the clutch out just until you feel/hear the engine loading up against the brake. Then release the brake, feed in a few more revs and ease the clutch out.
Well yes... that is what they do.
Insurance industry is one of the few places where I think government regulation needs to happen. Deregulation depends on people being decent to each other... and if there's one thing insurance people aren't, is decent. At least the higher ups.
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I don't remember it being that bad pre-Bush v2.0...
The cover story was basically 'Obama wants to suck Reagans dick', immediately following that was a half-dozen page spread about why Reagan was, is, and will always be the world's greatest politician and financial strategist.
It's got me in a bit of a flap.
I have a bad handbrake for this though. It's next to the steering wheel but recessed, so I have to lean forward to grab it, and fully extended it locks into place in some weird way where you are supposed to twist it to lock into place but this doesn't always work. Once it is locked it's locked, but it's just a bizarre design that would be awkward to use while driving.
he's not even american, don't listen to him
Oh god I could start driving on the wrong side of the road any minute!
Some old Australian cars used to have shitty handbrakes like that. You just have to get used to using it.
Just use the break, clutch and first gear. When you've eased the clutch enough for the engine to pull slightly without gas, ease off the break (If you start rolling backwards you need to press the break down again and ease off the clutch some more) and start applying gas while easing off the clutch.
I hate driving cars I don't know because knowing where that magic clutch position is can be hard if it's not a car you're used to. Usually you will hear the engine make different sounds though.
red white and blue gravity works differently. You just have to wildly over-rev and smoke-em.
Yay the insides sometimes get covered in ice requiring me to scrape off the ice both on the outside and the inside. Yay sometimes the gas pedal is frozen into place and I need to violently step on it wasting gas. Yay sometimes the car just shuts itself off while in motion. Yay shifting into third and first can be a bitch. Yay to all this shit.
See you can do that in a modern car because if your car has EFI it will (probably) also have a little device on the throttle body that will try to stop the car from stalling.
Older cars don't.
So doing that on a steeper hill just results in stalling.
Lazy bastards who shouldn't be driving manuals...that's who.
Learn to actually drive the car. Be able to shift without looking at the revs. Get good enough to actually work the clutch, break AND gas in collaboration with each other.
Don't use the handbrake.
Well you can also just really quickly start giving gas and ease off the clutch... If you're quick.
I'm in a country where you don't use handbrakes for four months because they might freeze.
When I drove a manual, I never used the handbrake.
In fact I had disconnected it once when I was doing some suspension work on my truck and forgot to re-connect it.... for 2 months.
When you never, do you mean not even when at a junction waiting to turn for a while, or at traffic lights/roundabout?
Liiya, have you become .... xtreme?
And dear, we don't have round-a-bouts in the states. Especially not back in Illinois. Hell we barely had stop signs.
Going from the driving schools BMW with all the fucking security and hi-tech shit of modern cars (ABS break, Traction control, a screen that would tell you what gear you should use, automatic wipers, basically all kinds of shit) to a car without any of that shit was fun as hell.
Great, thanks for teaching me to drive on ice with a car that doesn't require more or less any amount of thinking. One driving school used an old mazda for this very reason.
Because that's the only way to keep it from rolling away away.
Well you're still alive Stale, so it obviously didn't land you in any danger!
Lowest gear possible and just keep it rolling slowly but steadily. If you're going downhill, low gear, in neutral, clutch all the way down and apply the breaks carefully.
You're pretty much required to learn how to drive manual in this country.
I think you can get a license for automatic cars only, but there are very few driving schools that do this. I have never driven an automatic, probably never will. I like having control.
I kind of want to go to an auto body place to get a quote on getting it fixed by professionals, but I'm dreading the cost.