[Guild Wars] You can still get Hall of Monument rewards for GW2

am0n

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Elldren

My monk is level 10!

Aldo

am0n wrote:

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Lev11 so far and found that the easiest way to level is to just try and explore the whole map around a point where a quest you can handle takes you. You're bound to run into enough other quests to get you a few levels. Non-quest leveling is sparse, although you get enough exp from killing lev10 mobs, especially when you take the bounty buffs from Sunspears standing next to resurrection spots.

am0n

Aldo wrote: »

am0n wrote:

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Lev11 so far and found that the easiest way to level is to just try and explore the whole map around a point where a quest you can handle takes you. You're bound to run into enough other quests to get you a few levels. Non-quest leveling is sparse, although you get enough exp from killing lev10 mobs, especially when you take the bounty buffs from Sunspears standing next to resurrection spots.

Not really looking for a better way to level, but I do appreciate the suggestion. I'm looking for what is available at lower levels in the way of group content; dungeons, world events, something like that.

Entriech

am0n wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

am0n wrote:

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Lev11 so far and found that the easiest way to level is to just try and explore the whole map around a point where a quest you can handle takes you. You're bound to run into enough other quests to get you a few levels. Non-quest leveling is sparse, although you get enough exp from killing lev10 mobs, especially when you take the bounty buffs from Sunspears standing next to resurrection spots.

Not really looking for a better way to level, but I do appreciate the suggestion. I'm looking for what is available at lower levels in the way of group content; dungeons, world events, something like that.

Not much, in all honesty. Guild Wars as designed is very much about rocketing you to max level in as short a time as possible. It would not be incorrect to view leveling from one to twenty as a tutorial of sorts. You can group up with people to do the quests, if you like, or the missions, but frankly most people tend to roll on their own with heroes. Especially in Nightfall.

am0n

Entriech wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

am0n wrote:

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Lev11 so far and found that the easiest way to level is to just try and explore the whole map around a point where a quest you can handle takes you. You're bound to run into enough other quests to get you a few levels. Non-quest leveling is sparse, although you get enough exp from killing lev10 mobs, especially when you take the bounty buffs from Sunspears standing next to resurrection spots.

Not really looking for a better way to level, but I do appreciate the suggestion. I'm looking for what is available at lower levels in the way of group content; dungeons, world events, something like that.

Not much, in all honesty. Guild Wars as designed is very much about rocketing you to max level in as short a time as possible. It would not be incorrect to view leveling from one to twenty as a tutorial of sorts. You can group up with people to do the quests, if you like, or the missions, but frankly most people tend to roll on their own with heroes. Especially in Nightfall.

Okay, thanks. Is there a good bit of group content once you get to max. level?

SwashbucklerXX

Pretty much everything is meant to be done as a group. Heroes are in to replace people so you don't have to find 8 players for everything you want to do... but if you *want* to do that, you're welcome to.

Darkewolfe

Guild Wars leveling/power growth is... different compared to other MMO's. Most challenges assume that everyone is level 20 and has some of the best gear in the game in terms of basic stats, because there isn't an incremental power creep to gear. The difference between hard content and normal content is whether you need to have optimized your gear and skills to be as synergistic as possible, or whether you can just roll with the high end gear you found on the ground.

Entriech

am0n wrote: »

Entriech wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

am0n wrote:

Darkewolfe wrote: »

am0n wrote: »

Besides the quests... is there anything to do, group wise, for lower levels? My monk is almost level 7, but not sure if my only choice is doing the story until max. level or if there is stuff in between.

Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall?

Nightfall.

Lev11 so far and found that the easiest way to level is to just try and explore the whole map around a point where a quest you can handle takes you. You're bound to run into enough other quests to get you a few levels. Non-quest leveling is sparse, although you get enough exp from killing lev10 mobs, especially when you take the bounty buffs from Sunspears standing next to resurrection spots.

Not really looking for a better way to level, but I do appreciate the suggestion. I'm looking for what is available at lower levels in the way of group content; dungeons, world events, something like that.

Not much, in all honesty. Guild Wars as designed is very much about rocketing you to max level in as short a time as possible. It would not be incorrect to view leveling from one to twenty as a tutorial of sorts. You can group up with people to do the quests, if you like, or the missions, but frankly most people tend to roll on their own with heroes. Especially in Nightfall.

Okay, thanks. Is there a good bit of group content once you get to max. level?

What Swashbuckler said is right, and there was a point in time where heroes didn't even exist, and all you had to make do with in order to fill groups were the pre-configured henchmen. That being said, almost every bit of hard mode/late game content benefits the more people you have, just in terms of having independent people able to accomplish individual tasks.

Darkewolfe

I just looked, and I'd originally thought Lucky Weekend meant double Balth and Gladiator, but apparently that was only in 2007. Unfortunate.

unintentional

45/50

http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=main&details=5TCAA8////DqwY2AhozBAgCAEXXAAAAAlMQYAAAAAAA

TolerantZero

Nice. I like how you get comments on your progress where the reward box is.

My favorite so far is 50's:

steejee

if only I had heaping piles of cash ingame

Note to self: clean out inventory before Vanquishing, nothing like leaving blues/purples on the ground!

On a related note, for those that have been playing the game for ages, what's your general salvaging strategy? I've been IDing everything (don't feel like constantly trying to shop them to people buying un-ided golds), but generally I've been straight up selling the purples (since their runes are all worthless), and focusing on runes for golds/blues. Given the price the items get from the merchants when they're ID'd it seems like I come out a little better than if I salvage for mats then sell those. Would salvaging down to the mats for basically everything be a better id? Bear in mind I *really* am not keen on sitting in Kam spamming WTS for inscriptions/hilts/etc.

Cobalt60

Salvage things that will salvage into Iron, Granite, Dust or Feathers. All the other crafting materials aren't worth it, but you can sell a stack of 250 iron for at least 7k and it's not very hard to get that much.

UnID golds can be easy to sell but you need to sell them at 7 for 5k or no one will take the time to buy them. Selling your UnID golds will probably get you more cash than lucking out on 15^50 or +30 inscriptions

Xagar

Merch everything and spend/waste no time trying to find people.

SniperGuy

So I was reading about GW 2 and was reminiscing about playing GW at launch waaay back when. If I wanted to pick up the expansions and such and start back up, how feasible is that at this point? Is GW2 coming out soon enough that it'd even be worth it? Will I just get mega stomped by everyone and everything?

DisruptorX2

SniperGuy wrote: »

So I was reading about GW 2 and was reminiscing about playing GW at launch waaay back when. If I wanted to pick up the expansions and such and start back up, how feasible is that at this point? Is GW2 coming out soon enough that it'd even be worth it? Will I just get mega stomped by everyone and everything?

Well, unlike at launch, Guild Wars is actually a good game now. I was surprised to learn this.

If you're playing for HoM, whether you get stomped in pvp is largely irrelevant. There are heroes now, which replace those horrid henchmen, for pve. So running pve by yourself is far less frustrating.

Whether its "too late" depends on how much you plan to play. As far as I know, the HoM isn't shutting down with GW 2, though, so even if the game comes out soon (it won't), you can get last minute play in and go back to get more rewards as you see fit. 30 points isn't really that hard to get.

Rook

unintentional wrote: »

45/50

http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=main&details=5TCAA8////DqwY2AhozBAgCAEXXAAAAAlMQYAAAAAAA

Congrats! Now it's time to never play the game again

Darklyre

I've come to the conclusion that Rangers beat Rits at being SoGM spirit spammer heroes. With four spirits (Pain, Anguish, Shadowsong, and Disenchantment) and Volley using a zealous bow, a 9+4 Expertise/9+1 Marksmanship/12 Communing split gives them the ability to just crap spirits out left and right, which I've found more than makes up for the weaker spirits.

Darklyre

Edit: Doublepost

Cobalt60

But if you use Rt heroes you can easily give them restoration skills making them spirit spammer/healer hybrids. Which in turn frees you up to use additional offensive heroes.

Xagar

A ranger spirit spammer with 7 or 8 spirits and 16 expertise works great, actually.

am0n

What is a "ranger spirit spammer with 16 expertise?" And an Rt hero?

Aldo

does anyone know at what level it is possible to change your 2nd job from the one you originally pick to a different one?

Darkewolfe

Darklyre wrote: »

I've come to the conclusion that Rangers beat Rits at being SoGM spirit spammer heroes. With four spirits (Pain, Anguish, Shadowsong, and Disenchantment) and Volley using a zealous bow, a 9+4 Expertise/9+1 Marksmanship/12 Communing split gives them the ability to just crap spirits out left and right, which I've found more than makes up for the weaker spirits.

Hmmmmm. I've been trying to find a build that wasn't terrible for my Ranger. I've been trying to do an R/D, but I think all the builds seem to be from before the Dervish changes.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:R/D_PvE_Scythe_Ranger

unintentional

Aldo wrote: »

does anyone know at what level it is possible to change your 2nd job from the one you originally pick to a different one?

depends on what game you are in

in prophecies, beat Augury Rock in the desert
in factions, beat uh..is it Nahpui Quarter? the one with the celestial monsters at any rate
in nightfall I believe it is the primary quest in sunspear sanctuary where you need to have an annoyingly high sunspear rank, before you ever go to vabbi

then just go to the great temple of balthazar and find the profession changer, he does it for 500g a pop

it's unlocking them, not a one time switch, so you can switch back and forth for free forever after

Aldo

unintentional wrote:

Aldo wrote: »

does anyone know at what level it is possible to change your 2nd job from the one you originally pick to a different one?

depends on what game you are in

in prophecies, beat Augury Rock in the desert
in factions, beat uh..is it Nahpui Quarter? the one with the celestial monsters at any rate
in nightfall I believe it is the primary quest in sunspear sanctuary where you need to have an annoyingly high sunspear rank, before you ever go to vabbi

then just go to the great temple of balthazar and find the profession changer, he does it for 500g a pop

it's unlocking them, not a one time switch, so you can switch back and forth for free forever after

Sweet, thanks.

Yes, Sunspear ranks are becoming my bane. And after you unlock the right rank for your next quest it turns out not be very interesting at all.

Entriech

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Darklyre wrote: »

I've come to the conclusion that Rangers beat Rits at being SoGM spirit spammer heroes. With four spirits (Pain, Anguish, Shadowsong, and Disenchantment) and Volley using a zealous bow, a 9+4 Expertise/9+1 Marksmanship/12 Communing split gives them the ability to just crap spirits out left and right, which I've found more than makes up for the weaker spirits.

Hmmmmm. I've been trying to find a build that wasn't terrible for my Ranger. I've been trying to do an R/D, but I think all the builds seem to be from before the Dervish changes.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:R/D_PvE_Scythe_Ranger

On my ranger I ended up using an R/A enraged lunge dagger build. Basically this http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:R/A_Dagger_Pet_Ranger

It seemed to work pretty well.

SniperGuy

DisruptorX2 wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

So I was reading about GW 2 and was reminiscing about playing GW at launch waaay back when. If I wanted to pick up the expansions and such and start back up, how feasible is that at this point? Is GW2 coming out soon enough that it'd even be worth it? Will I just get mega stomped by everyone and everything?

Well, unlike at launch, Guild Wars is actually a good game now. I was surprised to learn this.

If you're playing for HoM, whether you get stomped in pvp is largely irrelevant. There are heroes now, which replace those horrid henchmen, for pve. So running pve by yourself is far less frustrating.

Whether its "too late" depends on how much you plan to play. As far as I know, the HoM isn't shutting down with GW 2, though, so even if the game comes out soon (it won't), you can get last minute play in and go back to get more rewards as you see fit. 30 points isn't really that hard to get.

What's the cheapest way to get back in if I own the original?

Entriech

SniperGuy wrote: »

DisruptorX2 wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

So I was reading about GW 2 and was reminiscing about playing GW at launch waaay back when. If I wanted to pick up the expansions and such and start back up, how feasible is that at this point? Is GW2 coming out soon enough that it'd even be worth it? Will I just get mega stomped by everyone and everything?

Well, unlike at launch, Guild Wars is actually a good game now. I was surprised to learn this.

If you're playing for HoM, whether you get stomped in pvp is largely irrelevant. There are heroes now, which replace those horrid henchmen, for pve. So running pve by yourself is far less frustrating.

Whether its "too late" depends on how much you plan to play. As far as I know, the HoM isn't shutting down with GW 2, though, so even if the game comes out soon (it won't), you can get last minute play in and go back to get more rewards as you see fit. 30 points isn't really that hard to get.

What's the cheapest way to get back in if I own the original?

If you're just interested in the Hall of Monuments? Purchase the Eye of the North expansion. If you just want to play again? Log in to your old account. If you don't remember your login info, but still have your CD key, you can contact support and get your details.

Darklyre

Cobalt60 wrote: »

But if you use Rt heroes you can easily give them restoration skills making them spirit spammer/healer hybrids. Which in turn frees you up to use additional offensive heroes.

The main problem with SoGM/Resto hybrids is that you have to split between Communing and Restoration...neither of which have energy management skills. Channeling/Resto hybrids work great because Channeling has Spirit Siphon, but considering how energy-hungry Communing spirits are, you pretty much need a battery on your team to fuel them, which takes up a slot on your team. BiP is great but it's annoying how fragile they are.

Plus, without getting into mercs, you only have two Rt heroes. With three Rt builds I want to include (SoGM, SoS/Resto, and ST Shelter), I either have to get rid of one build entirely or make one using a non-Rt hero. I figure the Ranger SoGM build works just fine at being an SoGM spammer, and thus I have ST Shelter AND SoS available.

steejee

Darklyre wrote: »

Cobalt60 wrote: »

But if you use Rt heroes you can easily give them restoration skills making them spirit spammer/healer hybrids. Which in turn frees you up to use additional offensive heroes.

The main problem with SoGM/Resto hybrids is that you have to split between Communing and Restoration...neither of which have energy management skills. Channeling/Resto hybrids work great because Channeling has Spirit Siphon, but considering how energy-hungry Communing spirits are, you pretty much need a battery on your team to fuel them, which takes up a slot on your team. BiP is great but it's annoying how fragile they are.

Plus, without getting into mercs, you only have two Rt heroes. With three Rt builds I want to include (SoGM, SoS/Resto, and ST Shelter), I either have to get rid of one build entirely or make one using a non-Rt hero. I figure the Ranger SoGM build works just fine at being an SoGM spammer, and thus I have ST Shelter AND SoS available.

There's three Rts now - Xandra, Razah, and Zei Ri, though unfortunately you have to beat Winds of Change on hard to get Zei Ri... would be nice if you could unlock him via normal mode or some other means.

Darklyre

steejee wrote: »

Darklyre wrote: »

Cobalt60 wrote: »

But if you use Rt heroes you can easily give them restoration skills making them spirit spammer/healer hybrids. Which in turn frees you up to use additional offensive heroes.

The main problem with SoGM/Resto hybrids is that you have to split between Communing and Restoration...neither of which have energy management skills. Channeling/Resto hybrids work great because Channeling has Spirit Siphon, but considering how energy-hungry Communing spirits are, you pretty much need a battery on your team to fuel them, which takes up a slot on your team. BiP is great but it's annoying how fragile they are.

Plus, without getting into mercs, you only have two Rt heroes. With three Rt builds I want to include (SoGM, SoS/Resto, and ST Shelter), I either have to get rid of one build entirely or make one using a non-Rt hero. I figure the Ranger SoGM build works just fine at being an SoGM spammer, and thus I have ST Shelter AND SoS available.

There's three Rts now - Xandra, Razah, and Zei Ri, though unfortunately you have to beat Winds of Change on hard to get Zei Ri... would be nice if you could unlock him via normal mode or some other means.

Oh snap everything I said earlier is now invalid.

Time to beat me some WoC.

SniperGuy

..shit I don't remember my character's name. That's a helluva security question right there. Hrm.

steejee

SniperGuy wrote: »

..shit I don't remember my character's name. That's a helluva security question right there. Hrm.

Contact support. They'll ask you a few questions about the account (I just described my character's class and what campaign I had) and they'll get you one eventually.

SniperGuy

steejee wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

..shit I don't remember my character's name. That's a helluva security question right there. Hrm.

Contact support. They'll ask you a few questions about the account (I just described my character's class and what campaign I had) and they'll get you one eventually.

Do they have a number? The live chat is apparently closed on weekends. edit: But damn, their email support is fast!

SniperGuy

Alright woooo I'm in the game. I have a level 20 warrior apparently that I vaguely remember being my main way back when. Now to figure out what I can actually do with him at this point, or if I should just get Eye of the North.

Bethryn

Is your aim to get HoM rewards?

If so, Nightfall if you haven't done it already to get a good base of heroes, then EotN for more heroes. You can create a decent 100 Blades set-up (OQATEVKXRywYwYHsvgvywarAjDA) and stroll through most PvE with that and heroes.

TolerantZero

I started playing as an Elementalist today, hoping to kill time waiting for the sequel. I've played them before, but only for a few quests or so. Never understood why I stopped playing them all of a sudden, they're a lot of fun.

Darklyre

SniperGuy wrote: »

steejee wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

..shit I don't remember my character's name. That's a helluva security question right there. Hrm.

Contact support. They'll ask you a few questions about the account (I just described my character's class and what campaign I had) and they'll get you one eventually.

Do they have a number? The live chat is apparently closed on weekends. edit: But damn, their email support is fast!

SniperGuy wrote: »

Alright woooo I'm in the game. I have a level 20 warrior apparently that I vaguely remember being my main way back when. Now to figure out what I can actually do with him at this point, or if I should just get Eye of the North.

Just looking at your post time and content, you can see why I love Arenanet and NCSoft's customer support so much. My account was hacked a few years ago and got Dhuum-banned. Within an hour of me emailing them they'd gotten everything unlocked, reset my password, reset my NCSoft password, etc.

As for your questions regarding campaigns, I'd say get the trilogy on Steam or something (I got it on sale for super cheap) and buy EotN from Half Price Books for like $10. That'll get you everything.