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Gamestop's policy of destruction (trashing boxes and manuals)

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  • Garret DoriganGarret Dorigan Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I would like to preface this with a similar connotation to Colorless Green. As a consumer, I don't have much love for Gamestop, due mostly to shitty customer service (allowing for the possible exeptions to the rules). But, from a solely business standpoint, they have a rather decent charter... that is twisted by their single store customer relations. If you were going to ask, no, I'm not connected to them in any way (I don't even hold stock) but it perturbs me, for some god awful reason, when people take things at face value.
    Dirty wrote: »
    I used to have total nerd-hate for Gamestop, but I have mellowed out in my old age. I understand that all the things they do that annoy me are things they feel are necessary to stay profitable. However, it has resulted in them running a store that I never feel compelled to buy things from.

    Amazon kicks their ass when it comes to pre-orders. Larger retailers give me a better deal on major releases than Gamestop. Niche titles (the kinda thing you go to a specialty store for) are rarely in-stock unless you pre-order.

    I remember going in and trying to buy Assassin's Creed on release day and they said they didn't have any non-preorder copies available. I was so pissed that I cancelled my Mass Effect preorder and never bought from them again. If they couldn't be bothered to stock enough copies of games which went on to sell in the millions, I can't be bothered to waste my time there.

    Forget nerd-hate, I just have conventional consumer hate for Gamestop. I really can't think of a store which is less customer-friendly and manages to stay profitable.

    A flawed system, but for a long time pre-orders were used as a profit control system. They would use them to 'rate' the general popularity of a game in order to stock an appropriate amount. This shot them in the foot more often than not, and elicited a similar reaction to yours by many people. They have since stopped this nonsense, last I heard.
    Fukatron wrote: »
    How many of you would like to see gamestop implode and go out of business or at least only make online sales?

    *raises hand*

    I'm pretty sure it's on its way. It would happen faster if everyone who was upset about this particular change actually backed it up and shelled out the extra buck or waited a couple days to get it from a non-cut-corner source.

    No. Gamestop, if anyone didn't know this, is a conglomerate with Barnes & Noble... more to the fact, when Gamestop bought out EB, FunCoLand, Babbages, Software Etc., and yes, etc., they were in a lot of debt (many have said that this is when by and large Gamestops were actually good) or needed the money to do so, or something. Barnes & Noble bought them either directly before or directly after the massive buyout.

    At any rate, GS owed B&N a lot of money. GS has been showing enough of a profit (especially compared to B&N's much lower profit) that GS at the corporate level is in talks to buy themselves out and become their own entity again. That's a whole shit-ton of profit, btw.

    So, tl:dr, GS is here to stay. Does this mean that the break from B&N will allow them to go back to "the good ole' days" when it was considered a good store? Probably not, customer service will probably still suck, but I'm sure they're going to stay in business.

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  • soup or mansoup or man Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I quit shopping at GameStop a couple of years ago, but yeah, it's not a pretty thought. I also only buy games that I'm going to play, though I still consider myself a collector and won't own a game without a case & manual.

  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You guys blow shit way out of proportion sometimes.

    Also, customer service is dependent on the employee, not the corporation.

    This Subway next to me has a dude that seems like he's always pissed off and skimps on the veggies. I do not automatically think Subway's service sucks. That dude sucks. The Subway close to work is great, has nice people.

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  • Garret DoriganGarret Dorigan Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You guys blow shit way out of proportion sometimes.

    Also, customer service is dependent on the employee, not the corporation.

    This Subway next to me has a dude that seems like he's always pissed off and skimps on the veggies. I do not automatically think Subway's service sucks. That dude sucks. The Subway close to work is great, has nice people.

    Quite, unfortunately there have been a rash, nationwide, of douches employed by GS.

    Douches might be excessive. Apathetic is probably the word to describe them. I've heard tell that this is due to the job itself, like they've been grown into being apathetic about their job, so if that's true it's a big problem with upper management.

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  • SoulGateSoulGate Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    you can't take your console or PC into the bathroom.

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  • ValleoValleo Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You guys blow shit way out of proportion sometimes.

    Also, customer service is dependent on the employee, not the corporation.

    This Subway next to me has a dude that seems like he's always pissed off and skimps on the veggies. I do not automatically think Subway's service sucks. That dude sucks. The Subway close to work is great, has nice people.

    Most of the time, yes. However, when one of my major gripes about the service is the constant harassment that their employees are forced to do as part of their job (for discount cards, disc guarantees, used games, pre-orders, ect), then no, it's the place and not necessarily the people.

    I actually make a longer car trip to go a small chain called Microplay instead of the local EB games that I can walk to when I get games. The guys at Microplay actually know their games, aren't tools and aren't forced by their bosses to harass me.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    No. Gamestop, if anyone didn't know this, is a conglomerate with Barnes & Noble... more to the fact, when Gamestop bought out EB, FunCoLand, Babbages, Software Etc., and yes, etc., they were in a lot of debt (many have said that this is when by and large Gamestops were actually good) or needed the money to do so, or something. Barnes & Noble bought them either directly before or directly after the massive buyout.

    At any rate, GS owed B&N a lot of money. GS has been showing enough of a profit (especially compared to B&N's much lower profit) that GS at the corporate level is in talks to buy themselves out and become their own entity again. That's a whole shit-ton of profit, btw.

    So, tl:dr, GS is here to stay. Does this mean that the break from B&N will allow them to go back to "the good ole' days" when it was considered a good store? Probably not, customer service will probably still suck, but I'm sure they're going to stay in business.

    Need to clarify some things here.

    Software Etc and Babbage's were the same company, called Neostar Inc, back in the mid 90s. In 96 the company filed for bankruptcy and was bought by B&N shareholders, keeping the company afloat, and it was renamed Babbage's Etc. The company finally switched to Gamestop around the time they bought Funcoland, and at the time had a shitload of banners under the company (I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a couple):

    Babbage's
    Software Etc
    Funcoland
    Gamestop
    Planet X
    Planet Comics
    Super Software/Supr Software
    Moviestop
    Gamestop + Movies Too

    Gamestop spun off of B&N completely around 2004, I believe (edit: it was 2004, I remember the announcement at the manager's conference that year). The two companies kept their discounts in place for employees out of a mutual respect, but the companies have been entirely separate for over six years.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've heard repeatedly that GameStop doesn't like to hire people particularly knowledgeable about games, either.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Doesn't Sit Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've heard repeatedly that GameStop doesn't like to hire people particularly knowledgeable about games, either.

    Makes sense.

    "No, really dude, the new call of duty game is shit. You'd be wasting your money."

    "Why are you buying the strategy guide for a game that requires the internet to play?"

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've heard repeatedly that GameStop doesn't like to hire people particularly knowledgeable about games, either.

    LP hates people who are passionate about games because they see them as shrink risks (they're old assholes, and their attitude is seriously "kids who like games are gonna steal!"). Most managers won't care... if you can be passionate about what you're selling, you'll sell more, the numbers will be better, and that manager will look good.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    gamestop was the only god damn place with radiant historia and then they stiffed me on my exclusive release only music CD, which thankfully was only some piano music

  • TurkeyTurkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    I've heard repeatedly that GameStop doesn't like to hire people particularly knowledgeable about games, either.

    Makes sense.

    "No, really dude, the new call of duty game is shit. You'd be wasting your money."

    "Why are you buying the strategy guide for a game that requires the internet to play?"

    Honestly, would you hire the people who post comments in Kotaku to sell games for you?

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  • Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User
    edited March 2011
    You guys blow shit way out of proportion sometimes.

    Also, customer service is dependent on the employee, not the corporation.

    This Subway next to me has a dude that seems like he's always pissed off and skimps on the veggies. I do not automatically think Subway's service sucks. That dude sucks. The Subway close to work is great, has nice people.

    Quite, unfortunately there have been a rash, nationwide, of douches employed by GS.

    Douches might be excessive. Apathetic is probably the word to describe them. I've heard tell that this is due to the job itself, like they've been grown into being apathetic about their job, so if that's true it's a big problem with upper management.

    It's a problem with the pay rate of the employees. If you barely work your entry-level employees and pay them minimum wage and expect them to be stock boy/girls, salesmen and custodians all within normal store hours, of course they're gonna be jaded.

    As a part time manager, I'm pretty jaded by the huge work expectation I have compared to my tiny paychecks and benefits and the people I have to put up with. The problem is until I can latch onto a better job, I have to keep this in order to pay bills.

    Then they're also expected to push stuff they don't believe in. I support our discount card fine, most of my customers MAKE money from it. however, I'm sick of being expected to push the stupid 3DS when I live in a lower income part of town where people try to haggle the price of a $1 ps2 game.

    Edit: Also the gamer pool that they DO hire from is pretty awful. You have two awful options: Hire from the gamer pool/customer pool and get people who are socially retarded or you can hire people who are socially capable, but have little to no game knowledge. Neither is ideal (and yes there are in-betweens).

  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've heard repeatedly that GameStop doesn't like to hire people particularly knowledgeable about games, either.

    I have never heard this, and it frankly sounds stupid.
    Jars wrote: »
    gamestop was the only god damn place with radiant historia and then they stiffed me on my exclusive release only music CD, which thankfully was only some piano music

    How could they stiff you? It came in the box with mine.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The excuse for the avoiding "game enthusiast " hires I've heard is they want people can sell, they dont care if you like games. if you are way to into them in an interview, its the same as being way into anything else during an interview.

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The excuse for the avoiding "game enthusiast " hires I've heard is they want people can sell, they dont care if you like games. if you are way to into them in an interview, its the same as being way into anything else during an interview.

    I'd say the exception here is a cute girl that's also enthusiastic about games. Gamestop loves that shit, it's like crack to them.

  • Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User
    edited March 2011
    But also an HR nightmare with 100% chance to cause nerdy staff drama. Good God. My girlfriend works at another gamestop and she's pretty constantly harassed by co-workers 1st grade style (I'm mean to you cause I like you, let's play in a sandbox).

  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The excuse for the avoiding "game enthusiast " hires I've heard is they want people can sell, they dont care if you like games. if you are way to into them in an interview, its the same as being way into anything else during an interview.

    No, they would want people that are enthusiastic and can talk to people about games to get them excited and reserve the game.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    they didn't have boxes for some reason, only game cartridges

  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    i buy used and trade-in all the time

    because you know what

    sometimes I like to save money

    It doesn't save enough money to make a difference, frankly. It's like the super market; the 1.20 can of peas, or the .80 can of peas.

    Yes we're talking dollars and not cents, but really, a $10 difference doesn't make me go "Fuck yes, used games!" It makes me go, "Well shit I may as well buy new."

    It's actually a bit more than that

    For used games, GameStop gives you a seven day grace period to return it if you just don't like it. Once new games are opened, they don't do returns unless it's defective.

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  • Liquid GhostLiquid Ghost Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I took pride in working at a good GameStop.

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Jars wrote: »
    they didn't have boxes for some reason, only game cartridges

    That's fucking weird

    How does that even happen, that's like complete incompetency

    You should've raised some hell about that

    @Green, yeah, that's pretty convenient to have

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