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It's just like the crap color job they did on Batman Year One. In fact, the only improvement I can ever recall is Absolute Sandman. Apparently they've even managed to screw that up since then.
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I think stuff like Dean White's recoloring of Jack Kirby's stuff, is kind of cool. It's keeping the shapes and energy of Kirby's stuff, but making something new with it.
I'd really like to see something like this done, with no alterations to Kirby's line-art, though.
On the other hand, there's stuff like this, where I don't really even see the point.
It doesn't feel like something cool and new. It just looks like old art, sanitized through the use of some pretty weak modern coloring techniques.
The lime-green Galactus head in the lower left becomes a normal, boring Galactus. His transparent horns, which set him firmly in the foreground by overlapping Thor in the old version, suddenly become lost in Thor's leg, in the modern interpretation.
It just looks boring.
Ultimately, it just comes down to the colorist. They're an artist like any other, and the good ones can put their own spin on some old art, while the bad ones will just try to stay in the lines.
I do think it's cool to see certain artists, colored in a way they're typically not. Like, Mignola's work always has those flat, Dave Stewart colors on them. Stewart's a great colorist, but sometimes it's fun to see someone color Mignola with a fully-rendered, three-dimensional style. It gives an entirely different tone and texture to his stuff.
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thought this was an interesting take on covers and reillustrations
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Sign that Marvel is just going to make this regular practice for the series?
which is not to say that they should be re-coloured
just that they look better
I think outside of the Jim Lee X-Men vol. 2 Omnibi (that ironically doesn't have much Jim Lee in the first volume!), Marvel never collected the other 4 issues he drew of the series before he left. So I think that's just a one off thing to test the waters.
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Where would be a good place to start?
I'm interested in Avengers vs. X-men so anything that would be a good lead into that would be cool.
Also whatever the best stuff feature Spiderman or the Hulk happens to be.
Well for Spider-Man you can start with issue 682 (which is the start of the Ends of The Earth storyline, great jumping on point), recently just relaunched so you could either start from Issue 1 (just had issue 7), or wait for the Point one issue of that coming out this month.
As for the Avengers vs. X-Men stuff, you might be better just reading that until it finishes because there will be a boat load of creative team changes (though Wolverine and the X-Men is reallly good!)
This is definitely the right place to ask that!
Now, AvX #0 is pretty much all you need to get into Avengers vs. X-Men, but you could also pick up Point One, which was a comic that has a sort of prologue to the conflict of AvX, along with some other Marvel story arcs that are going on this year.
With Spider-Man, definitely Amazing Spider-Man #682 is a good jumping on point for the current story arc.
As far as the Hulk, his solo series right now is pretty crazy. You'd be best to start with Incredible Hulk #1, which only came out last December, so catching up won't take long.
last time I read Xmen it was 1999 and I never really got into avengers
With Moon Knight, I'd start with the Charlie Huston series from a few years ago, which is fantastic and leads into the even better Vengeance of the Moon Knight series by Gregg Hurwitz. The Huston series lasted 20 or so issues, and then the Hurwitz one was 10 issues. The most recent series is Moon Knight by Bendis and Maleev, but I wouldn't really recommend it - it's not nearly as good as those other two. Moon Knight's also been pretty awesome in the Secret Avengers series.
Go back and start with Uncanny X-Men #1 and Wolverine and the X-Men #1. They're the two tent pole titles.
Greg Pak has written some of the best modern Hulk stories with Planet Hulk and World War Hulk. If you like those, his run continued with Incredible Hulk: Son of Banner and Fall of the Hulks
Back in the 90s, Peter David had a legendary run on Hulk that you could start with Incredible Hulk Visionaries: Peter David (vol.1)
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Nope you're wrong. Daredevil has been written better.
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Daredevil has been great most of the time, but there have been significant longer dips in quality. I'd say Hulk has been better consistently.
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it's not bad
it's just all about bruce banner with little hulk
it just isn't fantastic
Never happened. Diggle just wrote some horrible fanfiction and Marvel published it completely by accident.
with the exception of Jones Hulk has been nonstop quality for decades
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The only downside in the whole series really was Peter Milligan's 12 or so issues. Even Austen's run on the title was good and nowhere near his Uncanny stuff.
I can't say that I enjoyed it, though. And fuck Quentin Quire, fuck him so hard.
The numbering stayed the same! (it's actually the only title Marvel's had that has never done renumbering, how about that?)
the same title that relaunched with a new number one a few years ago
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