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A Shock Doctrine

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    "Operation Odyssey Dawn" is a great operation name

    First thing I thought of when I saw Odyssey Dawn, was that it was such a great name.

    It is a pretty great name.

    But I wonder, are code names for military operations like names of racehorses, in that they can't be reused?

    Because there have been some pretty lame ones in the past.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    #10. Operation Rainbow

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    What Was It?

    2004 Israeli incursion into Gaza Strip

    Sounds Like:

    The Israeli PR agency wanted this to be seen as a friendlier, happier incursion into the Gaza Strip.

    somewherrrrre overrr the

  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I thought that was going to be the gay bomb thing as soon as I read rainbow.

  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wow, big news in Yemen now

    Top army commanders defect in Yemen
    Several top Yemeni army commanders have declared their support for anti-government protesters seeking the resignation of the country''s president, Ali Abudullah Saleh.

    Major General Ali Mohsen Saleh, the head of the north western military zone and the head of the first armoured division, said on Monday that he had deployed army units to protect the protesters.

    Two more commanders, Mohammed Ali Mohsen and Hameed al-Qusaibi, rallied behind Major General Saleh soon after.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    United States of Earth is going down

  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    fuck ya I love democracy, I hope we send in more tanks and aeroplanes and bomb some shit

    on a side note im in a computer lab with 30 empty computers, and the first guy to come in this morning sat right next to me

    fuuuuu

  • Peter EbelPeter Ebel Deus Vult! OsloRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    He wants to butt fuck you.

    Also, another war? Fucking fuck. Hopefully we get there in time and kill enough bad people that the country becomes totally awesome because evil has been taken out it gene pool.

    Fuck off and die.
  • LTMLTM Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Franko wrote: »
    fuck ya I love democracy, I hope we send in more tanks and aeroplanes and bomb some shit

    Free the shit out of some brown people, woooooo haaaaaa!

  • DepressperadoDepressperado Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    has anybody suggested calling it "shocktrine" instead?

    because that is the only contribution I have

  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Gaddafi forces kill 9 in rebel-held Misrata-resident
    Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi fired on a crowd of unarmed people in the centre of the rebel-held city of Misrata on Monday, killing at least nine, a resident told Reuters.

    "The people of Misrata went into the streets and to the (city) centre, unarmed, in an attempt to stop Gaddafi's forces entering the city. When they gathered in the centre the Gaddafi forces started shooting at them with artillery and guns. They committed a massacre. The hospital told us at least nine people were killed," the resident, Saadoun, told Reuters by telephone.

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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I would have thought the Middle East and North Africa would have exploded when oil revenues went down due to lack of supply. Damn, shit is just getting weird.

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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Libya controls like 2% of oil supply and Egypt doesn't really export as far as I know. Even then exports havent disappeared completely just slowed down.

    But, I havent looked anything up about Yemen yet.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Clearly those civilians lacked moral clarity.

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    has anybody suggested calling it "shocktrine" instead?

    because that is the only contribution I have

    I lean more towards calling it a Rock Doctrine, or possibly a Rocktrine

    Also, I believe it took all of 4 seconds for people to start criticizing Obama's decision to get involved in Libya. I saw a headline but refused to read the story (headline was basically saying "Oh great, now we're in another war that's going to last forever"). I'm not a fan of the outside countries getting involved in this situation, but I do agree that this situation required it to avoid a leader massacring civilians/rebels.

  • DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS
    edited March 2011
    I'm not a fan of the outside countries getting involved in this situation, but I do agree that this situation required it to avoid a leader massacring civilians/rebels.

    Exactly what Alderaan thought....

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Masks, huh? Mine's superior.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm not a fan of the outside countries getting involved in this situation, but I do agree that this situation required it to avoid a leader massacring civilians/rebels.

    Exactly what Alderaan thought....

    Fear will keep the local systems in line

    A Tarkin Doctrine

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  • DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS
    edited March 2011
    Tarktrine

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ugh

    Libyan operation hampered by confusion and dispute
    The US has showed signs of exasperation with its European partners amid confusion over who will take control of the Libyan operation from America.

    President Barack Obama and his senior commanders are eager to hand over command to Europe in a matter of days, either to a Nato-led command or some Nato-style operation headed by France or Britain.

    Nato had been due to announce on Monday that it was taking over, but that had to be abandoned because of a dispute between the 28 member countries. Britain and France also appear to be at odds over which state will take the lead.

    Nato members met in Brussels on Monday but have so far failed to resolve an impasse compounded by Turkish objections to the intervention force.

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  • ButtersButters Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah there's a severe lack of leadership going on implementing this no-fly zone. Not very surprising considering it was only a couple weeks ago our defense secretary was telling us a no-fly zone wasn't possible.

    Everyone wants a ceasefire but no one wants to be responsible for it.

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User
    edited March 2011
  • 101101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    fair and unbiased

  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User
    edited March 2011
    With most things that are horrible, I can just be like "yeah, it's stupid, but I can just ignore it." The Kardashians are a good example of this. They're completely harmless.

    I'd LOVE to have that attitude towards Fox News. But the knowledge that they are the sole news source for a significant portion of the American public is just infuriating, and makes it kind of hard to be like "whatever."

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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fox News is the most watched news media in the U.S. Like legitimately.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    How many of those viewers are people that dislike Fox or want to see them say something stupid?

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    127%

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Call me when Fox starts airing blood sports.

    'till then I'll be on Mexico setting the cock fighting world on fire.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Macro9 wrote: »
    Call me when Fox starts airing blood sports.

    'till then I'll be on Mexico setting the cock fighting world on fire.

    it's chickens fyi

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Macro9 wrote: »
    Call me when Fox starts airing blood sports.

    'till then I'll be on Mexico setting the cock fighting world on fire.

    it's chickens fyi

    One typo in my post paints a terrible image.

    A man can make decent money in cockfighting. You got to give it you all, though.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Of course you got to decide if you're the kind of cock that wears spurs or the kind that wears knives.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    nuh uh, only for cable news

    I think

    No, that's correct. Fox News is the most watched Cable News network.


    Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
    get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
    have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    With most things that are horrible, I can just be like "yeah, it's stupid, but I can just ignore it." The Kardashians are a good example of this. They're completely harmless.

    I'd LOVE to have that attitude towards Fox News. But the knowledge that they are the sole news source for a significant portion of the American public is just infuriating, and makes it kind of hard to be like "whatever."

    I'd been thinking about this a lot, and I'm not even inclined to worry about the political bullshit. At the end of the day, their character assassination against Democrats doesn't really shift the American discourse all that far. I'm really concerned with their bullshit nationalism/isolationism/racism bent.

    But this year, instead of eating meat, I gave up reading Fox News for atheist Lent. Really, there's nothing I can do to change what they do by acknowledging them, responding to them, criticizing them, etc. At best, I'm just giving them ad revenue. I don't need to know what kind of bullshit they're perpetrating to disagree with it. What I need to do is talk to the people I know, the people I talk to anyway, about what they think and what they believe, and if it's harmful to other people, regardless of any party affiliation, I need to address that directly. That's the best thing I can do to effect change.

    I also dropped reading CNN completely after their earthquake/tsunami coverage.

    I don't need to keep re-affirming to myself why they're terrible, and I don't need to know their rhetorical tropes to talk to other people about their personal ideas, even if that shit is an influence on them. It's not worth it to do that to myself. I don't need to give it up for just 40 days. I'm done. I'll laugh at some Daily Show segments if I see a link to them.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Ugh

    Libyan operation hampered by confusion and dispute
    The US has showed signs of exasperation with its European partners amid confusion over who will take control of the Libyan operation from America.

    President Barack Obama and his senior commanders are eager to hand over command to Europe in a matter of days, either to a Nato-led command or some Nato-style operation headed by France or Britain.

    Nato had been due to announce on Monday that it was taking over, but that had to be abandoned because of a dispute between the 28 member countries. Britain and France also appear to be at odds over which state will take the lead.

    Nato members met in Brussels on Monday but have so far failed to resolve an impasse compounded by Turkish objections to the intervention force.

    Somehow, this is not the least bit surprising.

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The biggest bullshit thing about this so far, for the US, is pubs wailing and gnashing their teeth about "but oh man Obama was against the way that Bush invaded Iraq but know he's doing the same thing impeach impeach" when we're actually providing a very small amount of obligated forces under UN charters, with this being one of those rare occasions where the UN actually does something.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It's too bad when that handover deadline comes, we can't just go "See ya assholes!" and take out toys and go home.

    And by toys, I mean sweet, sweet cruise missiles.

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You do know a whole bunch of those missiles weren't launched by us. The UK has a missile sub there.

    edit: couple of them, I think

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah I know. But so far, that's all we've fired off.

    We could totally leave carrier battle group there, the flight deck covered in sailors sipping pina coladas in lounge chairs.

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    We don't need to send a carrier group. The French carrier is already under way, plus we have airbases in Europe within range.

    It's the Mediterranean, this is UN/NATO home turf.

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Gaddafi tanks shell Misrata, kill children - resident
    Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are shelling the rebel-held western city of Misrata and casualties include four children killed when the car they were in was hit, a resident told Reuters on Tuesday.

    "The situation here is very bad. Tanks started shelling the town this morning," the resident, called Mohammed, told Reuters by telephone from outside the city's hospital.

    "Snipers are taking part in the operation too. A civilian car was destroyed killing four children on board, the oldest is aged 13 years," he said.

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