A Shock Doctrine

Orikaeshigitae

feynman is generally opposed to focusing one's ambition on things that aren't discovery or self-actualization, i think.

Edcrab

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

feynman is generally opposed to focusing one's ambition on things that aren't discovery or self-actualization, i think.

Well! No plaques with "World's Most Awesome Guy" engraved on them for him then

Macro9

Xehalus

Edcrab wrote: »

In completely unrelated news Iran is threatening to boycott the Londom olympics because of how utterly shitty the logo design is

Well not really but if that had been the reason for it I'd have been right behind them

don't megathread me, bro

Orikaeshigitae

this is not a feynman video but still really entertaining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JCD388D10&feature=player_embedded#at=413

CrossBuster

Macro9 wrote: »

Spoiler:

<3

Macro9

CrossBuster wrote: »

Macro9 wrote: »

Spoiler:

<3

I am somewhat proud of that post. So please forgive me while I run the shtick into the ground.

Xehalus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09zvzzCOB2M

Usagi

Solar wrote:

I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

For example: shipbuilding

I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

Xehalus

contract capitalism

Butters

Boats are dumb. Who cares?

Solar

Usagi wrote: »

Solar wrote:

I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

For example: shipbuilding

I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

Sure, sure. Got to have the theory to develop the practice, and I'm not saying theory should be demolished in any area. God no. But at some point, you have to put the practise into effect, and people who could do some good arguing about theory all the time is like two ship-builder who never build anything because they argue about, I don't know, keels all the time or whatever.

Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

LTM

Solar wrote: »

Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

Then find the little man in it.

DodgeBlan

pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

LTM

DodgeBlan wrote: »

pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

Hitler started in beer halls, maaaaaaan.

Usagi

Solar wrote: »

Usagi wrote: »

Solar wrote:

I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

For example: shipbuilding

I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

Sure, sure. Got to have the theory to develop the practice, and I'm not saying theory should be demolished in any area. God no. But at some point, you have to put the practise into effect, and people who could do some good arguing about theory all the time is like two ship-builder who never build anything because they argue about, I don't know, keels all the time or whatever.

Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

Ah yes you do indeed

But without the theories we're discussing being put into practice, we'd still be building ships the old fashioned way with hull first, then framing, then superstructure and outfitting which is much more materials and labor intensive than building blocks on the ground and assembling the blocks in the drydock

All the arguing about theory is good because that's one way new theories are developed

But you're right, it takes a great deal of effort to make those theories useful, sometimes significant changes are needed and oh look you've developed a new theory too!

Research and application, both inherently valuable.

Xehalus

DodgeBlan wrote: »

pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2326169_politicsgetting-foot-door.html

Xehalus

Be loyal and sincere. Candidates and their staff members MUST surround themselves with people they can trust. Be that person.

DodgeBlan

actually I lied, some of those people are in university socialism clubs

Viscount Islands

This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

Which is pretty cool.

(And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

Koshian

http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=117175

Boston does a Good Thing

Antimatter

wooo

Solar

yay

I Win Swordfights

Viscount Islands wrote: »

This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

Which is pretty cool.

(And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

You think Key wants a dummy?

You get your shit in gear, Vis, and you get yourself a korean boy.

Koshian

too bad something like that will never happen on the federal level in the us. tough shit for the rural transpeople.

in arkansas, literally just yesterday a transwoman was shot in the head & dragged behind a pick-up truck for a mile or so. oops.

Butters

We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

Koshian

don't even ironically use that slur, please. thank you.

LTM

Butters wrote: »

We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

I was wondering if it was too soon to bring back the Boston accents. Thanks, Butters.

Viscount Islands

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Viscount Islands wrote: »

This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

Which is pretty cool.

(And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

You think Key wants a dummy?

You get your shit in gear, Vis, and you get yourself a korean boy.

:cry:

I totally have two of Neil Tyson's books and Origin of Species on my bookshelf. Baby steps...

CrossBuster

So Lindsay Graham is saying that the National Intelligence Director should be fired for giving his honest assessment of the situation in Libya, after he was called to give his assessment of said situation.

Apparently all it takes to get Lindsay Graham totally butthurt is to not tell him exactly what he wants to hear.

Unbelievable.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/10/us.libya/index.html?hpt=T2

Clint Eastwood

LTM wrote: »

Butters wrote: »

We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

I was wondering if it was too soon to bring back the Boston accents. Thanks, Butters.

nawt fayuh

Butters

Tawm Brady is da best transgenda quattaback der is. NO ONE DENIES THIS!

Usagi

Yay Boston

Boo federal gvt for being slow to protect its citizens

Viscount Islands

Koshian wrote: »

don't even ironically use that slur, please. thank you.

She said as she dropped the n-word casually in conversation.

Charles Kinbote

my dad was a shipbuilder

or a "naval engineer" I guess

he started off building submarines and then started selling boats to PMCs yadda yadda I have no clue he doesn't tell me anything

a couple times a year he goes to south america though

very odd, it's just like Meet the Parents (not Meet the Fockers, tho!)

Clint Eastwood

Charles Kinbote wrote: »

my dad was a shipbuilder

or a "naval engineer" I guess

he started off building submarines and then started selling boats to PMCs yadda yadda I have no clue he doesn't tell me anything

a couple times a year he goes to south america though

very odd, it's just like Meet the Parents (not Meet the Fockers, tho!)

what about Little Fockers?

Koshian

i can only imagine what a man who sells things to PMCs does in south america

Charles Kinbote

Koshian wrote: »

i can only imagine what a man who sells things to PMCs does in south america

I think he does a lot of surfing but he showed me a picture of him on a zipline once

he's a diverse guy

he got tapped for a project while he was at MIT that ended up basically being the plot of the movie "Real Genius"

except instead of a laser it was surveillance technology to use on russian submarines

Anjin-San

Berk wrote: »

when will you learn this forum is focused on the concerns of corpulent deathly pale shit beards obsessed with stroking their micro-cocks over the latest disposable pop culture shite marketed at 12 year olds

he just posts videos

i wouldnt read too much into it

Charles Kinbote

my dad is the anti-teefs & -koshian in a lot of ways

*shrugs*