POKEMON BLACK AND WHITE
Yes the Black Version has the White one and vice versa. Michael Jackson would be proud.
Japan: September 18, 2010
North America: March 6, 2011
Australia: March 10, 2011
Europe: March 4, 2011
What is Pokémon?
A portmanteau of the worlds Pocket and Monster.
Yeah I know, its Pocket Monsters in Japan and some crazy made up Japanese word everywhere else. Deal with it.
Oh, you wanted a long ass Wiki style quote.
Pokémon is at its core an RPG in which you collect a party of cute and cuddly little monsters and beat up other children's party of cute and cuddly monsters, knock them out and steal their lunch money. That and furious inbreeding and cross species mating to create unstoppable battle thralls. If you're still in this thread you probably know all this. Oh sure there is usually some overarching plot line involving ten year olds, elemental gods, mad scientists, eco-terrorists, PETA gone bad and so forth. But basically battle, trade, level, breed, only to battle more.
But I don't want to spend 35 dollars in early March!
Pokémon games take FOREVER to depreciate in value. I guess you're probably interested in one of the many (16 released in North America and Europe) other versions of Pokémon. You've come to the right place. You probably have one or more of these games. If you own Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal then you're probably old. The first three games in particular have not aged well. If you want that old timey Kanto experience go play Fire Red or Leaf Green. These games are no longer compatible with the current generation of games. You probably have a hard time finding anyone to battle or trade with considering you can't battle or trade online. But at least you are secure in the knowledge that you've got the original unbalanced 151/251 of your formative years. Good for you.
Those games are awesome but have been remade. The remakes torch them in every which way.
If you own any of the other ten games you're in luck. Well, Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, and Emerald (Known collectively as Generation Three) can't trade online being GBA games and all but can move pokémon to the other five games via a Nintendo DS or DS Lite. These five games are the start of the modern Pokémon era and while not as refined as the five DS games are a step in the right direction. Natures, Abilities, Battle Frontier (Emerald) and a fixed EV/IV system.
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold and Soul Silver are the real deal right now and compose the fourth generation of the game. These games have online battling and trading, refined mechanics, 486 possible Pokémon to catch, and slowdown! Platinum and HG/SS largely make Diamond and Pearl look shoddy. A great deal of this thread will deal with these five games so I won't talk too much about them here.
What is the deal with Black and White?
Taking place in a new region in a new part of the Pokémon world with over One Hundred and Fifty new monsters to catch and battle with. Yes, that is the most ever in a region. Also curious is the fact that no old version pokémon make an appearance before you beat the game, at which point you can trade over any Pokémon from any fourth generation game using another DS. Oh quit complaining and borrow another one. It will work perfectly fine with the upcoming 3DS that also comes out in March so there is a perfect solution right there. But yes, that means no Abra, Pikachu, Machop and most importantly no more Geodude or Zubat in every single cave.
What Features does it have? (NOW WITH BULLET POINTS)
It's gonna be fantastic.
- 156 new Pokémon, the most ever.
- 92 new moves, 41 new abilities.
- 24 boxes= 720 storable pokémon.
- Box to box transfer over IR between Black and White.
- TECHNICAL MACHINES (TMs) ARE NOW INFINITE USE. Increased to 95. Some TMs were switched.
- 6 Hidden Machines, down from 8.
- Seasons: Each Month is a different season. Effects NPCs, catchable pokémon and the sprite for one pokémon's evolved form.
- Faster interface. Weather effects are icons, hp drains faster, multi hits work stadium style.
- Two new types of battles: 3 on 3 and rotation.
- All new, improved Pokémon centers with built in GTS and Pokémarts.
- Video chat between DSi/DSi XL/3DS systems.
- Dream World: Online interaction with minigames, housing (eat that, Diablo II/WoW), and dream world hidden abilities. Opens at the end of March. Will crash.
- Battle Subway: Replacing the battle tower. For the first time the Leader will appear in co-op mode.
- Ability to transfer unlimited pokémon from fourth generation.
- Experience system is changed to something resembling Fire Emblem. If your Pokémon is higher level than the opponent exp gain is drastically reduced, normal within about a nine level range, and greatly increased for fighting Pokémon ten levels higher. Surprisingly, this change makes the leveling up much faster.
- Co-operative mini missions using the C-Gear's Entralink.
- Current time is always displayed.
Some Slight Downsides
Current State of Pokémon
- Pokémon don't follow you outside of battle.
- No held items can be transferred over from Gen IV.
- Barebones Move Tutors.
- No Battle Frontier.
- Encounter Tables no longer use time of day.
- No contests. (Personally viewed as a plus, though Musicals are the same song and dance...)
Victini is available over Wi-Fi from launch until April 10th. The next time it will be available is for promoting the next set of movies whenever the hell that happens.
Which Starter should I pick in Black White?
SNIVY: Think a faster version of Meganium, though not quite as tanky. Poor movepool. Not good against many gym leaders. Cool looking as hell though, Smuglord in particular.
TEPIG: Think a slow, bulky Blaziken. Interesting move pool. Good against quite a few gym leaders. Fire Type is no longer essential because of Pansear. Cute as all hell. Remember to use a heart scale on him when he's fully evolved.
OSHAWATT: Basically a slightly more specially orientated Totodile. Really decent movepool, decent against gym leaders. Cute as all hell.
Differences Between Black and White:
Version exclusive Pokémon:
029 Nidoran (Female)
032 Nidoran (Male)
Note: All Pokemon not in the Unova Dex are post game only.
Yes, Black Version is spanked in pure number (and quality too, white has a murderers row of new exclusives)
To make up for it, Black City has lots of decently high level trainers (with the evolved forms of the white forests pokémon to fight) and a shop with randomly selected items (which you normally have to get off the pokémon or ground of White Forest.
Black also has sweet bearded old man final gym leader while White has annoying girl from the anime gym leader. Only difference is the sex of their pokémon.
Lilipup is the ONLY pick up Pokémon before you beat the game. By only, I mean only. Loses the ability for a much better one when it evolves. You can get lucky eggs and heart scales though, so you might want to consider trading over a level 40-50 Pachirisu/Linoone when you beat the game, or learn to mash B.
Audino is a Pokémon that shows up in the rustling grass sections and is worth an absolute boat load of experience points. Liquid Metal Audino is even more exp, and Metal King Audino gives out a ton.
I've beaten the game, I want to battle my friends online.
Oh, you want me to give you a not so brief rundown on how things work. Ok. Let's start with breeding.
Breeding in Brief
Breeding is honestly not as hard as it looks. When a male Pokémon and a female Pokémon love each other very much (don't hate each other) an egg mysteriously appears. We don't know how it got there but we wonder if you want to keep it.
Oh, you want to know how it works and why you would want to. Ok, fine.
Every pokémon in the game is divided into 15 egg groups. The fifteenth group is full of Pokémon that cannot breed whatsoever. This group includes legendaries that aren't Manaphy and Ditto. Each other pokémon can belong to up to two egg groups and can breed with any pokémon in those two groups...and Ditto.
Why would you want to breed? For egg moves and a chance at passing down favorable stats. Males give moves. Females determine which pokémon the egg becomes. If the pokémon to be hatched can learn the move then the move is in fact passed down. If all four moves are passed down then those are the ones you get. If only three are you'll get whatever pre level one moves the pokémon gets and so on.
How do you breed? Find the Pokémon Day Care. Put your two breedable pokémon in the day care. Wait for the old man to face out towards you, talk to him. If you have room in your party he'll give you an egg. Walk awhile with the egg in your party to hatch said egg.
EXAMPLE: I have a male Venusaur with Leech Seed and Earthquake and a female Meganium. They are both in the monster and plant breeding groups, so no problems there. Get the egg, keep it in the party until it hatches and presto, a new Chikorita with Leech Seed, Tackle, and Growl. Why no earthquake? Well, even though Meganium can learn Earthquake via TM Chikorita cannot. Tackle and Growl are the same moves any level one Chikorita would know.
Ditto is a total slut. If a Pokémon can breed at all it can breed with ditto. Dittos always count as female so make sure you breed them with males if you want egg moves. Try to catch one of each nature to aid in breeding specific natures.
When you get more in depth with battling you'll frequently want to breed your pokémon for a specific nature to maximize your pokémons potential. Natures improve the base stat total of one stat by ten percent and decreases another stat by ten percent. Since most pokémon have at least one stat they don't need (Usually one of the attacks or speed) breeding for specific natures can only help out maximizing its potential. If you have a parent with the right nature you can make it hold an Everstone to give any egg it is the parent of a 50% chance to have that nature.
Why if you already have a parent of the right nature would you need to breed? Egg moves, better stats, better ability.
Example: The Chikorita from the last example was male but it didn't have a nature we wanted. If we breed it with a Timid Ditto holding an Everstone any egg hatched from that union will have a 50% (Plus the chance for it to be Timid anyways) to be Timid. This is a huge time saver!
Stats breeding is a bit more complicated. Each individual Pokémon has a number from 0 to 31 for each of its Stats: HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, Speed. This is called the individual value. Every wild Pokémon has a random number between zero and thirty one in each of these values. The higher the number, the higher that stat is. To simplify the game for people these numbers are hidden.
When it comes to bred Pokémon they inherit anywhere from one to three stats from their parents. First the game picks one stat from one of the parents at random and gives it to the egg. Then it picks a non HP stat (including the one it already passed) and then a third in the same way, only this time ignoring HP and Defense. The other 3 to 5 are random.
Determining IVs of newly bred Pokémon can be a bit of a pain. The best way is to have what we like to call an IV fight in which you challenge someone to an IV fight over the internet. Yell at someone on these forums to give you a fight, write down the values of each stat of the Pokémon, and enter those values along with the nature and breed of Pokémon into any IV calculator and presto. IVs. You can also use this to find out the hidden power of this Pokémon.
In Heart Gold/Soul Silver and beyond you can also use the Power items (Power Bracer, Band, Anklet, Weight, Lens,Belt Which we will be talking about later!) to guarantee that the parent holding that item will pass down the stat automatically. This can be incredibly useful, especially if you get your hands on a ditto with really good stats.
Anklet passes Speed
Band passes Special Defense
Belt passes Defense
Bracer passes Attack
Lens passes Special Attack
Weight passes HP
Example: We finally have a male chikorita of the nature we wanted, but its stats suck. We have a ditto with an awesome special attack (31, the best it can be) so we throw our young chikorita into the day care with the super ditto, with the chikorita now holding the Everstone and the Super Ditto holding the Power Lens. Now all eggs hatched from these two give you a 50% of being Timid and a 100% of having a 31 Special Attack!
Abilities: Well, once we are in hip deep with Generation five this section will get something added to it, but right now it is basically a 50/50 proposition on those with more than one ability. Abilities can make a great deal of difference in a battle or they can be basically pointless. Just keep breeding until you get the one you want!
Pokémon in the first slot in your party hatch slightly faster.
Pokémon with the ability Magma Armor and Flame Body hatch eggs in half the time. I like Magmortar because he looks like a Megaman boss.
Smeargle can pass any possible egg move in the ground breeding group. This is amazingly handy.
Baby pokémon cannot breed. This isn't actually all that many pokémon. Pichu, Igglybuff, Cleffa, Magby, Tyrogue, Togepi, Elekid, Smoochum, Wynaut, Azumarill, Budew, Chingling, Happiny, Bonsly, Mime Jr., Munchlax, Riolu, Mantyke. The one people usually forget is Riolu. Just raise them to their next form and breeding will continue.
I use Serebii's Pokédex
for Egg moves, Bulbapedia's page on natures
and Metalkid's IV Calculator
for IV Calculating. Serebii's method of grouping egg moves in particular is fairly handy.
Once you have the egg moves, stats, and abilities you like on your pokémon now it is time to get them into fighting form. IVs are not the only way to effect the stats of a pokémon, each stat also has an experience system. Everytime you gain experience from a fight you also gain points on certain stats from the effort of fighting that pokémon. Vitamins can also add to the total, but only to a certain point. The stats go from zero to 255, and each pokémon can have a total effort value of 510 or two fully maxed stats. Every four points of effort gives you a one point gain in that stat at level 100! That means you could get a 63 point shift on any neutral natured stat and 69 on the stat positively changed by the nature.
Example: A Timid Alakazam with 31 IVs in each Stat would have a level 100 stat line of:
251 HP, 122 Attack, 126 Defense, 306 Special Attack, 206 Special Defense, 303 Speed with zero EV investment. If you put 252 points into Speed and Special Attack each and 6 points into HP though the line shifts to:
252 HP, 122 Attack, 126 Defense, 369 Special Attack, 206 Special Defense, 372 Speed, quite the difference!
EV Training in Practice
Each pokémon you fight and win experience points from gives you anywhere from 1-3 effort points in either one or two stats, the maximum being three points. A pokémon infected by the pokérus has all effort points gained doubled and those handy Power items mentioned in stat breeding's primary job is to add four points to any effort values gained in the stats that it effects. Using certain spots with lots of pokémon that provide the stat you want is a good idea.
Example: Our Chikorita from the previous example wants to max its Special Attack. If we have it fight Golducks which provide +2 effort values to Special Attack it will gain two points for each fight it won. It does not need to gain the killing blow nor be alive the whole fight, it only has to be alive when the golduck dies i.e. be eligable for gaining exp. If the Chikorita has contracted the Pokérus by being in a party with another Pokémon that has the virus it will gain 4 effort values in Special Attack. If it is equipped with the Power Lens it will gain (2+4) or six effort values and if it has both the Pokérus and the Power Lens equipped it will gain (2+4)x2 or 12 points.
EV TRAINING IN UNOVA:
Surf in the dark puddles of Icirrus City - Stunfisk (100%, 2 HP)
Also, Victini (3 HP) can be rebattled infinitely as long as you do not catch it.
Route 1 - Lillipup (50%, 1 Atk) and Patrat (50%, 1 Atk)
Dragonspiral Tower 2F - Golett (100%, 1 Atk)
Dragonspiral Tower 1F - Golett (50%, 1 Atk), Druddigon (30%, 2 Atk), Mienfoo (20%, 1 Atk)
Outside of Dragonspiral Tower, Double Grass - Tranquill (30%, 2 Atk), Sawsbuck (30%, 2 Atk), Mienfoo (30%, 1 Atk), Druddigon (10%, 2 Atk)
A couple of notes need to be made here.
- At the moment, I am unsure whether Druddigon gives 2 or 3 Atk EVs. I've listed it as 2 for now.
- During Winter, the Double Grass location changes up. Druddigon is replaced by Beartic (10%, 2 Atk), which is great, but Tranquill is replaced by Vanillish (30%, 2 SpAtk).
Which of these locations is the best is up to you, assuming the Druddigon "mystery" is solved. If you don't mind keeping track exactly how many EVs you got, Dragonspiral 1F or outside Dragonspiral is the place for you. Outside gives the most EVs at in a short time, especially if you can OHKO two enemies at a time. If you'd rather keep it simple, Dragonspiral 2F or Route 1 are where it's at.
Wellspring Cave - Roggengola (50%, 1 Def)
Pinwheel Forest - Venipede (15%, 1 Def) and Sewaddle (35%, 1 Def)
Pinwheel Forest Double Grass - Whirlipede (15%, 2 Def) and Swadloon (35%, 2 Def)
Chargestone Cave - Klink (29%, 1 Def), Ferroseed (20%, 1 Def), Boldore (10%, 1 Atk, 1 Def)
None of these guarantee a Def encounter. Wellspring Cave also has 50% Woobat, Pinwheel has Cottonee/Petilil (35%) and Pidove (15%), Pinwheel Double has Cottonee/Petilil (35%) and Tranquil (15%), and Chargestone Cave has Joltik (36-39%) and Tynamo (2-8%), depending which floor you're on. Note that Boldore gives 1 Atk in addition to 1 Def!
Celestial Tower - Litwick (100%, 1 SpAtk)
You can go to higher floors if you want, those have Elgyem (15%) which also give 1 SpAtk. There's a Nurse on 3F, which is convenient.
Surf in Driftveil City - Frillish (100%, 1 SpDef)
Surf on Route 3 - Basculin (100%, 2 Speed)
You can Surf in a lot of places for 100% Basculin, but this is an example of a place where you don't have to go through tall grass or anything to get to a surfing spot when coming from a close Poké Center.
Vitamins while expensive can give a pokémon 10 effort values in the effected stat, up to a total of 100. You cannot go above the pokémon's total of 510 total points. Vitamins are not effected by the pokérus or the power items.
The Vitamins are as follows:
Example: We battled 21 Golducks with our brave Chikorita (with the Power Lens and Pokérus) and earned an impressive 252 Special Attack! But now we want to add points to our HP. We go out and buy 10 HP Ups and give them to our Chikorita, giving it a total of 100 EVs in HP! We have 158 more points until max but we'd need to battle more to get any extra totals in HP! If we accidentily tried to feed the Chikoria a Calcium which boosts Special Attack it would not work, but we would also not lose the vitamin!
Focus on one pokémon and one stat at a time. It's much easier.
Use PP of your favorite killing move (assuming you killed the pokémon in one hit) to keep track of EVs. Just subtract the total you had from the amount remaining and multiply that by what the battle would give you.
The power items are post game only, but you could trade them over if you wanted. Note that they lower in battle speed by quite a bit when equipped, so be wary. You earn them in the Battle Frontier.
Use repels+higher level lead pokémon to get you into the spot where you ev training. Also use higher level pokémon to actually kill the thing for your level one guy.
So now you know the how to get your team into fighting shape, but which pokémon to use? A good question. Team balance is an important idea. If all your pokémon are weak to one or two moves you could find yourself easily beaten and that's not fun. Try to keep these ideas in mind.
Have something that can stop sweeps: Some pokémon like to use stat boosting moves to raise one of their attack scores and then go wild against opposing teams. Having someone who can come in and get the kill on these monsters is absolutely vital. A strong, fast pokémon with a good move that goes first is invaluable.
Don't Have too many glass cannons. Remember those Strong Fast Pokémon I mentioned? Well, most of them are rather frail and they can't kill all pokémon designed to hang around taking hits. These walls are a vital part of any good team, able to switch in to hits and force the opponent to struggle while you heal off attacks they do or just simply kill them off.
Make your pokémon specialists when it comes to evs and natures, not attacks. Specilization is key in stat distrbution but remember that the more types of pokémon you can do super effective or neutral damage to the better. The ideal situation is being able to hit a few types for super effective and the rest for neutral, but on some pokémon designed for defense or stalling or other trickery sometimes the best you can do is one strong attack, so try for something that nothing is immune to. Ice and Dragon are good examples.
A good simple balanced team involves having a Special Wall, a Physical Wall, A Sweeper, a Lead, a Rapid Spinner or Spin Blocker (A ghost) and then a back up. Back ups can be clerics, annoyers (Status effects) and Revenge Killer (Assuming your sweeper can't do it. You can forgo the spinner if you know your opponent isn't using hazards for whatever reason.
Item choice matters, especially in the fourth and fifth generations. You can sometimes build the pokémon around the use of an item. If you can't think of anything better Leftovers is the default.
Entry Hazards need to be used and they need to be stopped. Same goes with weather. These effects can change the game dramatically. 5th gen will be rife with weather effect users and fourth gen was dominated by use of Stealth Rock. Having a rapid spinner was and still is a good idea.
Think outside the box. Everyone knows about various Smogon standards, and I'm not even suggesting you don't use them. However if you know their common moveset allotments you can come up with something custom designed to take them down.
All Pokémon are useful. Some are more useful than others. When fighting on P-A inevitably picks up again with the release of BW remember that we tend to have fairly open battling rules, basically no legendaries. Some places use Smogon tiers while others allow any number of legendaries or just two. Also learn about the item clause.
Battle, battle, battle. Practice until you know how the game works.
Making the GTS Work for You
The GTS is a wonderful, beautiful thing. Talk to the third receptionist from the left on the top floor of every Pokémon Center (except the league one) after you obtain the C-Gear. It's the second option down. This simple trade service comes in two distinct varieties; the shitty one where you meet up with some random asshole wanting legendaries where you show him/her/it a bunch of pokémon that he/she/it doesn't want and nothing gets done, and the awesome old school swap meet post board. This is the one that will get you ahead of the game. You can either post a request for a pokémon that you've already entered in your pokedex
or look for a specific pokémon and do a 1 for 1 trade for it.
Looking for Pokémon is a suckers game. Most of the time you'll get ridiculous results. Oh, you want a level 100 female Heatran for your shitty level 14 Sawk.
Instead, post a pokémon you're willing to part with and some nice (usually Japanese dude) will give it to you. Note that asking for females for breeding purposes usually takes longer, but if you put up stuff like version exclusives, starters you've hatched from a lucky female, audinos, drillburs, tynamos, dragons, and other Smogon bait you'll usually get a trade lightning quick.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Black or White?
Oooh, ooh, yeah yeah now.
Black has items, lots and lots of items. White has more and better exclusive pokémon. Because of the online nature of the game it kinda makes Black better. White if you never intend to do serious trading.
DS doesn't cooperate with my router.
WEP or no encryption. You can get around it by either turning off the security for whenever you go online or use a Wi-Fi access point extender which you plug in only when you need it and set it to WEP. Either that or camp out at a McDonalds. Sometimes even if you have all that stuff together your router and DS won't get along. It happens between any wireless devices. Mine for example works great but if I can't connect I need to restart my router, at which point it works flawlessly afterwards.
I'm not gaining any experience points, help!
Filthy pirate playing an un-patched copy of the game. Interestingly enough this has sparked a very interesting challenge whereby people try to beat the game without gaining any exp. It involves catching new stuff as you go along and is actually pretty interesting. You can use an AR code to turn on this mode if you're also a filthy cheater.
When can I cash in this Liberty Ticket and get Dick Tini?
What about using the Crown Beast/Celebi to get Zoroark/Zorua?
Castelia City, take a boat from there. He's about level 15 and so are the trainers around him, so pretty damn early. Very usable in game Pokémon. Have to beat some Plasma goons to get to him, but they're not too bad. If you faint him just leave the tower and return.
Unlock the Relocator: Right hand building by the northern exit to Castelia City. Tell the man: EVERYONE HAPPY SIMPLE CONNECTION and presto, Relocator is unlocked on the main menu!
Where are my sweet ass dream world abilities?
CELEBI: Use the RELOCATOR (not the regular transfer!) and take Celebi to the Game Freak building in Castelia.
Crown Beast (Shiny Suicune, Raikou, Entei) : Use the RELOCATOR (not the regular transfer!) and take the pokémon to Lostlorn forest.
Need to wait until the website is up at the end of March. Or cheat, you filthy cheaters.
When can I transfer over Pokémon from my gen four game?
After you beat the game, there is an odd building en route to Black City/White Forest. Head in.
Where do I get the breeding/training items in Black and White?
Battle Subway. Like the Battle Tower from time long past.
Why is the female trainer dressed like a skank?
Colt Single Action Army. Six bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves.
How do I make money?
Marry someone rich. Oh, in game. Keep the Amulet Coin equipped at all times on your lead Pokémon and fight a lot of trainers. Amulet coin is from uniting the dancers in Castelia City.
What is the best Pokémon for catching?
Smeargle with False Swipe, Spider Web, Foresight, Spore. Can catch literally anything in the game...given enough time. Other good choices include a Thick Club Marowak with False Swipe or a Spore/False Swipe Breloom. Good Black and White choices? Amoonguss (FANTASTIC wordplay here) has spore....really, really late.
Why no Underboob?
No official artwork with under boob that I can remember.
I have a sudden case of the Pokéurge, help?
You can't fight it. Just give in. Black and White are insanely well polished.
Is this the best Pokémon game ever?
Of course it is, it's the one based on AMERICA.
Are HMs in the game?
Can you read the wall of text I posted? Oh, you can't read, I'm sorry. Yes, there are six HMs in the game: Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, and Dive. Cut is used about five times, one for story purposes. Strength mainly gets you shortcuts, is a good early normal attack, and is used maybe twenty times in the game, only three or four times for items or progression. Surf is basically the best special water move, and Waterfall is basically the best water attacking move, Surf is used a few times to get to some optional stuff, Waterfall and Dive are like that but times ten. Dive isn't even used until after you beat the game.
What is Unity Tower?
A tower of unity. Oh, you want more. Go to Castelia City's oddly named Unity Pier and take the boat. I think you need to make at least one international trade before it shows up. It's a cool place.
How do you get the é?
On a US English keyboard hold the alt key and type 130.