Dragon Sage II: A Lizard did it. PS3 Patch?

captaink

Kwoaru wrote: »

captaink wrote: »

Semi-fluid. If I had no compelling reason to do otherwise, I usually brought Fenris/Aveline/Varric.

This was my party as well, I was using carver then swapped him for fenris.

Fenris is pretty much cooler than Carver in every way.

Baidol

My party has pretty much always been Aveline, Varric and Anders (Bethany before she died).

Fucking Anders.

Kwoaru

Yeah but I couldn't get him to get jiggy with hawke so I ended up with merril

Dubh

I decided early on that my Hawke is a total elfphile

Anosognos

Oh, yeah, I took their propensity to be pissed off into account too. Fenris never came with me if I thought the quest involved mages and I though it was likely I'd side with them.

I played on normal and found that I only needed a tank when fighting single powerful targets. I also found that Aveline, Fenris, and Isabela were all acceptable tanks, for different reasons, with the exception of very tough enemies like the major demons and the high dragon.

Solar

Dubh wrote: »

I decided early on that my Hawke is a total elfphile

Me too

Love them elves

captaink

Anosognos wrote: »

Oh, yeah, I took their propensity to be pissed off into account too. Fenris never came with me if I thought the quest involved mages and I though it was likely I'd side with them.

I played on normal and found that I only needed a tank when fighting single powerful targets. I also found that Aveline, Fenris, and Isabela were all acceptable tanks, for different reasons, with the exception of very tough enemies like the major demons and the high dragon.

I just Rival'd Fenris. It actually worked out really cool, I enjoyed pissing someone off without them leaving or trying to kill me.

Kwoaru

I made friends with everybody, which made me very very upset with anders

Der Waffle Mous

I don't know why people seem to want to avoid gaining rivalry points.

From what I hear that leads to some really good interactions, too.

captaink

I rivaled Fenris on purpose, and I kept pissing Merril off so I ended up rivaling her too. They were plenty interesting.

Kwoaru

I friended everybody because jesus hawke loves everybody and just wants to save lives and be promiscuous

Anosognos

Yeah, I considered that. Thing is, I had an overriding desire to be best bros with everyone.

It's exactly like how I can't go dark side / renegade / evil in anything ever. Except now it's gone beyond being nice to being accommodating.

Weird thing is, I love playing characters (Kain, Kratos, etc) that are written to be be heartless, selfish assholes no matter what.

Dux

Man, I really have a problem with rivalry. I dunno, I just want all my party members to like me, you know?.

Except Anders, fuck that guy.

captaink

They still respect you and think you're a badass, they just don't like you much. Or agree with you. Depends on the character.

Dubh

I prefer making friends out of all my companions

though I REALLY appreciate being able to work the other way if I so wanted to


hell, I gave up on being friends with Carver because, as Aveline put it, he's a tit

Dux

captaink wrote: »

They still respect you and think you're a badass, they just don't like you much. Or agree with you. Depends on the character.

Exactly, that's my problem. I just want be loved by everyone, damnit!

captaink

But Merril, for example:

Spoiler:

You get rivalry for trying to hold her back on her crazy plans. And eventually after all the shit goes down and you get back to Kirkwall, she basically says 'you were right all along, I shouldn't have done any of it." And it's a nice moment.

Same with Fenris, he's like "So maybe mages aren't so bad after all".

ShimSham

captaink wrote: »

I rivaled Fenris on purpose, and I kept pissing Merril off so I ended up rivaling her too. They were plenty interesting.

All it takes to rival Merrill is to be a sensible, rational person.

I hate her so much.

Dubh

Really? Rivalry does work to that extent? Hrrrrm!

edit: Hey now, Merril was a perfectly reasonable, wise, demon negotiator...

Oh.

Solar

ShimSham wrote: »

captaink wrote: »

I rivaled Fenris on purpose, and I kept pissing Merril off so I ended up rivaling her too. They were plenty interesting.

All it takes to rival Merrill is to be a sensible, rational person.

I hate her so much.

You suck

Anosognos

I thought Merrill was a great character. She basically wishes she was Morrigan, though. Now there's a meleficar that can handle her shit. The correct response to anything a demon says is, "nah." Morrigan knew this.

Dubh

I romanced Merrill on my playthrough


but jeeze louise, was I concerned when she mentioned her demon dealings

like, if Morrigan said she was I'd at least feel like it's being handled

Virgil_Leads_You

I don't actually like Morrigan or Merrill.
Wynne seems to be my favorite mage character.

chiasaur11

Virgil_Leads_You wrote: »

I don't actually like Morrigan or Merrill.
Wynne seems to be my favorite mage character.

This is a sensible position.

Owenashi

I'm too much of a nice guy myself to purposefully try gaining Rivalry points myself. I make sure not to bring anyone who'd have a problem with the focus of my current quest. "Hmmm, I have to chase after some idiot mage. Better leave Anders at his clinic for this one. Maker knows I can't afford to spend another fifteen minutes on another 'equality of mages' speech."

Spoiler:

Kidding aside, Anders' ok. You know, up to the point of the final quest.

On another note, I think someone over at GameFAQs feels that the game's settings should have been covered more thoroughly in the manual.

GameFAQs 360 DA2 Message Board - is there a way to turn the homosexuality off?' wrote:

i'm not gay, i don't have a problem with people who are but in this game i don't like men coming up to my character and making advancements, it turns me off. Gonna sell the game tomorrow.

Javen

I do like how the game doesn't pair you with paragons like yourself, though. Meril is an extremely flawed person who really doesn't know shit, for example. Same with Anders

ShimSham

Virgil_Leads_You wrote: »

I don't actually like Morrigan or Merrill.
Wynne seems to be my favorite mage character.

I want Flemeth as a companion that I can romance.

I really just want Justice back in any corpse.

Dubh

I like Morrigan, and Merrill, but that Anders fella'?

I am disappoint.

As7

Der Waffle Mous wrote: »

I don't know why people seem to want to avoid gaining rivalry points.

From what I hear that leads to some really good interactions, too.

Yes. I honestly don't mind getting Fenris angry as shit at me. Makes him hit things harder.

Javen

The only guy that actively comes onto you is

Spoiler:

Zevran

All the others actually wait for you to make the first move.

Edcrab

I can't tell when people are being ironically homophobic

But I suspect that great big tracts of the GameFAQs board really are that dumb

Virgil_Leads_You

Nah, Anders will bring up a forced dialog in which he hits on you, where you either flirt back or turn the dude down.

I still think it's silly for the dude to sell his game, just because he was hit on.

My only romance criticism is one tiny section, where they didn't script a "not interested" option for Isabella.
You had to pick a flirty option before finally turning her down.

captaink

Now I gotta decide how I wanna do this next. My character ideas are a Lady-Hawke dual wield rogue that is sarcastic and funny and tries to keep her head down, or a 2-hander Man-Hawke that loves to oppress him some mages and be a jerk. Think I'll wait for the first fix patch though, wanna get it right.

Goatmon

Virgil_Leads_You wrote: »

I don't actually like Morrigan or Merrill.
Wynne seems to be my favorite mage character.

Wynne is pretty awesome, yes.

Solar

Javen wrote: »

I do like how the game doesn't pair you with paragons like yourself, though. Meril is an extremely flawed person who really doesn't know shit, for example. Same with Anders

Merrill is a lot more aware than Anders

A lot

Anders is basically fucking blind. He thinks all mages are persucuted saints.

Merrill actually is surprisingly aware of her actions.

Stilts

Dubh wrote: »

I like Morrigan, and Merrill, but that Anders fella'?

I am disappoint.

Even my "Rah rah! Screw the Templars!" mage Hawke thought Anders was pretty creepy douchebag.

Spoiler:

And after he blew up the Chantry like a fucking moron, he expects me to kill him? HAHA! No, dude, I'm not letting you off that easy. You get to live with the knowledge that you just murdered a bunch of innocent people and were directly responsible for a civil war in Kirkwall that left countless people dead.

Oh, and one more thing: you're going to stay in my group and do whatever the fuck I tell you to, because you clearly can't be trusted with your own ideas.

captaink

I do wish there was a circle mage option for Hawke or your party in this game. Everyone's an apostate.

Dubh

Javen wrote: »

The only guy that actively comes onto you is

Spoiler:

Zevran

All the others actually wait for you to make the first move.

Spoiler:

Anders came on to me in my game, but I was playing as a lady Hawke.

Dux

captaink wrote: »

But Merril, for example:

Spoiler:

You get rivalry for trying to hold her back on her crazy plans. And eventually after all the shit goes down and you get back to Kirkwall, she basically says 'you were right all along, I shouldn't have done any of it." And it's a nice moment.

Same with Fenris, he's like "So maybe mages aren't so bad after all".

Really? It works like that? I might have to rethink my approach. May even start over.

captaink

Dux wrote: »

captaink wrote: »

But Merril, for example:

Spoiler:

You get rivalry for trying to hold her back on her crazy plans. And eventually after all the shit goes down and you get back to Kirkwall, she basically says 'you were right all along, I shouldn't have done any of it." And it's a nice moment.

Same with Fenris, he's like "So maybe mages aren't so bad after all".

Really? It works like that? I might have to rethink my approach. May even start over.

It's just one scene. It's probably not worth starting over for.