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Stargate Universe: Getting good just as it ends (Spoilers Ahoy)

Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beefA mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
edited July 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
Contains Spoilers Up The Latest Aired Episode

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The last thread got locked, and then there was one of those mysterious middle of a series breaks that certain countries I could name are so fond of.

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What is this?
It was an attempt to do something new and interesting with the Stargate franchise. And by "new and interesting" they meant make a series in the vein of Voyager or Battlestar Galactica. It didn't really work, but for the most part it's not bad, it's just not terribly cohesive and sometimes the characters act in remarkably strange ways for the sake of the plot. It's also cancelled, so it's just finishing up.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I was just watching the latest episode and realised that for the few of us still watching, we could us a thread. So, I threw together a crappy OP and bam.

    Were these episode made prior to the cancellation? Or can we expect an ending?

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  • CatalaseCatalase Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Prior. No ending coming.

    Watching the remaining episodes for completionist's sake...you know, I actually thought the show was (finally) starting to improve in quality; quite enjoyed last week. Some time travel, good use of the gate, some believable character tension...and then they aired the latest episode.

    I'm only 21 minutes in and it's been abysmal.
    Spoiler:

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ah, that's a shame then.

    Still, it means that it makes some sense when they spend an episode trying to make unlikeable politics woman have some depth and try to answer some of the questions about whatshisface's backstory.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Last three episodes have been fantastic; at least it gets to go out on a high note.
    Spoiler:

    Again? (I can't remember what became of him in the movie)

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Catalase wrote: »
    Prior. No ending coming.

    Watching the remaining episodes for completionist's sake...you know, I actually thought the show was (finally) starting to improve in quality; quite enjoyed last week. Some time travel, good use of the gate, some believable character tension...and then they aired the latest episode.

    I'm only 21 minutes in and it's been abysmal.
    Spoiler:

    Ok, so you clearly know what that stuff is. I never watched SG:A or SG1 regularly.

    Was it normal that
    Spoiler:

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I haven't watched the latest episode, but double rush was a pretty good I guess.
    Spoiler:

    I agree with catalase on the Lucian alliance. They have been annoying from the very first time I saw them up until now. They got plenty of muscle on the earth side of things, so why do I have to keep hearing about them.

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    I haven't watched the latest episode, but double rush was a pretty good I guess.
    Spoiler:

    I agree with catalase on the Lucian alliance. They have been annoying from the very first time I saw them up until now. They got plenty of muscle on the earth side of things, so why do I have to keep hearing about them.
    Spoiler:

    Oh well :/

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    They should've just kept two Rushes. Little by little, he could have replaced the entire crew.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Think of all the scruffy beards. Can the ship handle that much scruff?

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    We would identify the Rushes by their facial hair. It would be a nightmare to film.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    Think of all the scruffy beards. Can the ship handle that much scruff?

    Next stargate they encounter will be to a planet where disposable razors grow on trees whose sap doubles as shaving cream.

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    What is this?
    It was an attempt to do something new and interesting with the Stargate franchise. And by "new and interesting" they meant make a series in the vein of Voyager or Battlestar Galactica. It didn't really work, but for the most part it's not bad, it's just not terribly cohesive and sometimes the characters act in remarkably strange ways for the sake of the plot. It's also cancelled, so it's just getting ready to leave us on yet another cliff hanger.

    Seriously. Fuck you, SyFy.

    Anyway, watching the aliens try to contact the home ship before the repairs were done was just dumb, dumb, dumb.

    Also, I was a bit amused when I saw the team salvaging plants. Did their hydroponics lab get destroyed or something? Because I'm pretty sure they could grow more of those if they wanted to.

  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Growing more plants requires time they don't have. In the last episode the ship better explode or dissolve into the space matrix they found.

  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    I haven't watched the latest episode, but double rush was a pretty good I guess.
    Spoiler:

    I agree with catalase on the Lucian alliance. They have been annoying from the very first time I saw them up until now. They got plenty of muscle on the earth side of things, so why do I have to keep hearing about them.
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    Recovering the plants is not that bad an idea since they take a long time to mature. You could basically double your fresh food supply without having to wait months.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That would have been pretty good, everybody makes it back to earth, except Rush who instead brings everybody back in time to make an alternate crew still on the ship. Then people could use the stones to switch with their own bodies, and whether they should come home at all would be a really difficult question.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    I haven't watched the latest episode, but double rush was a pretty good I guess.
    Spoiler:

    I agree with catalase on the Lucian alliance. They have been annoying from the very first time I saw them up until now. They got plenty of muscle on the earth side of things, so why do I have to keep hearing about them.
    Spoiler:

    Recovering the plants is not that bad an idea since they take a long time to mature. You could basically double your fresh food supply without having to wait months.

    Futurama already answered why they had to die.
    Paradox Clones man. You can't have paradox clones running around being all paradoxical.

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  • jefe414jefe414 The dirtiest Sanchez TortugaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Crap, when did they start airing the 2nd half of season 2?

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    March 7th? You're 3 episodes behind. It's on Monday now.

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  • jefe414jefe414 The dirtiest Sanchez TortugaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    March 7th? You're 3 episodes behind. It's on Monday now.

    Dammit

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That was a pretty neat episode.

    Greer insisting that he didn't need any anesthetics for the bone marrow seemed like they were trying a bit too hard at making him seem awesome, but other than that, pretty neat.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That was an impressive episode. Two plots. Character development. Showing how they are improving their knowledge of the technology. A bit clumsy with the super happy ending but that is what the base level should have been.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 Spaaaace! In Space.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Sweet, I'm expecting this to be the best of the last ten episodes. :D

    I'm guessing than those two who were downloaded won't be getting new bodies before the series is over, kinda feels like that would have been a series 3 thing.

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    That was an impressive episode. Two plots. Character development. Showing how they are improving their knowledge of the technology. A bit clumsy with the super happy ending but that is what the base level should have been.

    Bringing back the two absurdly hot women who they weirdly killed off? A mistake?

    You sir, are a goose.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    That was an impressive episode. Two plots. Character development. Showing how they are improving their knowledge of the technology. A bit clumsy with the super happy ending but that is what the base level should have been.

    Bringing back the two absurdly hot women who they weirdly killed off? A mistake?

    You sir, are a goose.

    I said clumsy, not a mistake. And it was clumsy as hell. They are too hung up on everything being episodic. You can string plots through a few sequential episodes and as long as there's a decent narrative in each episode then nobody is going to freak out about it.

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It was nice to have one episode where everything worked out about as well as it could.

    That is all.

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    That was an impressive episode. Two plots. Character development. Showing how they are improving their knowledge of the technology. A bit clumsy with the super happy ending but that is what the base level should have been.

    Bringing back the two absurdly hot women who they weirdly killed off? A mistake?

    You sir, are a goose.

    I said clumsy, not a mistake. And it was clumsy as hell. They are too hung up on everything being episodic. You can string plots through a few sequential episodes and as long as there's a decent narrative in each episode then nobody is going to freak out about it.

    Sure, they could have broken it up
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    I would have liked that more, yes, but given that we're running out of road: I'm glad they crammed all that development into one good episode.

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  • MvrckMvrck Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'd say, that was the closest this show has come to a "classic" Stargate episode. Which makes me very, very sad they couldn't have done it sooner. 5 or 6 more of those in Season 1 and this show would still be going I think.

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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    when's the new episode go up on Hulu? It's still saying Twin Destinies as it's latest one. Or was it? cause I thought that was last week's

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  • jarekjarek Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Lanz wrote: »
    when's the new episode go up on Hulu? It's still saying Twin Destinies as it's latest one. Or was it? cause I thought that was last week's

    The Hulu SGU page says "Availability: Episodes are available 30 days after airing on television." The first few episodes of a new "season" are usually put up a lot sooner -- probably in case folks weren't aware of the new episodes -- but usually after the first three or so they start following the stated delay.

    So... probably around April 21. They did the same thing with the first half of season two; if it weren't for the fact that I can watch past episodes for free through my cable (with just a 24hr delay) I would have given up on this show long ago.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I just started watching Firefly recently, so I didnt notice this before and others have probably commented on it.

    But they are really trying to make Chloe into River Tam, aint they?

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2011
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    I just started watching Firefly recently, so I didnt notice this before and others have probably commented on it.

    But they are really trying to make Chloe into River Tam, aint they?

    And yet she was somehow dumber than the girl whose brains had been scooped out with a spoon.

    I still refuse to believe that the show wasn't supposed to be "incompetence, in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!" It was like a slightly more serious version of Venture Bros.

  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I liked the episode, but this neural hologram stuff should have been introduced way more often before hand. We all wanted to know what happened to that one guy who went in the chair, but they just made it that he has been a program all this time. If that's true he has been a goose because he hasn't helped the crew at all.

    It was better to think that he was just a figment of Rush's mind when he showed up last time.

  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It's too bad that the Amanda Perry hologram couldn't have been played by the dude who runs the IOA.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    I liked the episode, but this neural hologram stuff should have been introduced way more often before hand. We all wanted to know what happened to that one guy who went in the chair, but they just made it that he has been a program all this time. If that's true he has been a goose because he hasn't helped the crew at all.

    Then theres the whole messy thing about what happened to his body, Cause that just up and vanished.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Also haven't they pretty much discovered, or at least, are closing in on, the secret to immortality at this point?

    (Although at this point the SGC has done that several times).

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nope. This is old school ancient technology. Immortality is late school ancient technology.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo What's beef A mouth full of goldRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    tallgeeze wrote: »
    I liked the episode, but this neural hologram stuff should have been introduced way more often before hand. We all wanted to know what happened to that one guy who went in the chair, but they just made it that he has been a program all this time. If that's true he has been a goose because he hasn't helped the crew at all.

    It was better to think that he was just a figment of Rush's mind when he showed up last time.

    I had entirely forgotten about him sitting in the chair and vanishing. Wasn't it also the guy with the kidney problems? I have a feeling I've forgotten a plot point here.

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  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So far this sounds like stiff characters, over acting (from that scene you linked) and plot holes. Watched the first few episodes when it first came out and went lolz trying to hard and left. Is any of it worthwhile to go back and watch? I enjoyed SG:1, Atlantis and other shows on the network, are there any good points?

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  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nope. This is old school ancient technology. Immortality is late school ancient technology.

    Clinical immortality is laughably trivial compared to a lot of the crazy shit they have. FTlL, force fields, artificial gravity, etc.? Repairing tissues of gerontological problems would be way simpler, and this is why the Asgard extinction problem was just a facepalm worthy plot to me. Cloning and downloading minds, what? Just repair what you've got, argh!

    But yea even just within the SGC wouldn't shooting up tritonin, the serum that replicates the effect of having a symbiote within Jaffa, multiply your lifespan several fold? The stargate wiki says Teal'c was 162 after the 50 year aging nonsense episode and still looking good just starting to show gray hair. I seem to recall them saying often that Teal'c was 80 so +50 would be 130 but who cares.

    A few rejuvenations within the goa'uld evil box wouldn't hurt either, we've seen from episodes that it would take many doses before you start going crazy.

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