really really funny you say that, as I had both predator and predators playing in the background while I was painting it. I guess it rubbed off without me knowing...
F87, can't wait until you starting moving away from those heavy black smudgey lines you tend to use... you need to colouriiiize, mannn. And sharpen stuff up.
I understand the sharper rendering part, but what do you mean by my lines? I can definitely do better with the line quality, but colourize?
Obilex interpreted my remarks correctly! I would love for you to experiment with getting rid of those black thick smudgey lines, even if its just reducing the brush size and drawing with a colour rather than black - or painting and cutting back so that the lines disappear. I think it will really benefit the look of your work.
Dats a sweet dragon Tam, though I feel it could benefit for some more demony, corpsy or some other aspect to show that the demon is taking it for a ride
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LOL BACKGROUND WHAT'S A BACKGROUND
I think I'll just throw some lines back there and call it a day
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AUUUUGH seriously I now feel like I've missed an awesome opportunity.
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Yeaaaaa, I totally guessed my way through that part. I will admit, embarrassingly enough that I have no clue what the heck to do when it comes to foreshortening.
It is my white wale.
I can never wrap my head around how the whole process works. I understand that it relies heavily, if not entirely on perspective, but beyond that I'm lost without a compass.
Holy shit I hate state schools. That totally makes sense now, I remember asking my teacher what it was and how it worked, she was like "as the object gets farther away you have to change the size so it's smaller." which is true I suppose, but I always thought it actually meant making the object smaller in terms of proportions as it got far away hence the Cotton Hill bodystyle. I feel like an idiot :P
Character Designs from last week. The tattooed man was a practice of working fast using quick digital techniques - such as gradient tone, flat block colors and shades and using a pretty generic simple pose.
The gunslinger guy is a more refined piece. Before anyone says anything - yes his lanky proportions are intentional. keeping that in mind, feel free to rip it apart!
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foreshortening is perspective
ya gotta do perspective to do foreshortening
Needlessly pedantic discussion about art terms incoming:
I don't quite agree with the first part, though I agree with the second- in order to do foreshortening well, a knowledge of perspective is very useful, though I'd say it's more about construction (which, of course, also requires perspective knowledge to do well.)
To my mind, foreshortening is really all about how to accentuate the forms of an object to create overlaps that create the illusion of depth- one can have good perspective, and yet have ineffective foreshortening. To give an example:
The first image is (while not very well drawn), has decent foreshortening- the overlapping lines create a sense of form and depth in the drawing, and it seems to be in decent enough perspective.
The next image is the same thing, same perspective, but with all the overlaps removed- it makes it difficult to tell if it's coming or going, and it makes it hard to tell if it's in good perspective or not.
The bottom two images show what can happen if you don't quite understand or pay attention to foreshortening- things get flattened out or run counter to one's intention, because the artist isn't giving enough attention to how the lines indicating form and their overlaps function to create a sense of depth.
Now to bring it back to Obilex's picture, yeah, there are perspective issues; even for someone with a lot of perspective experience, the extreme angle would give a lot of trouble, and doing the formal perspective legwork here would help things a lot, sure.
But if we're talking about foreshortening exclusively, the issue becomes more about choice of detail- having brushstrokes/details/wrinkles go across the form rather than down it, in order to create some overlaps that can help sell that perspective, that kind of thing.
(This might have been a slightly unnecessary thing to go on about, but whatever.)
wck, If you're going to go for exaggerated proportions, I recommend going all out, you've got a generic head and normal hands on this crazy long neck and torso, it just doesn't balance out. I'm a skinny tall, noodle person, and I have long piano player/witch fingers, for instance.
wck, If you're going to go for exaggerated proportions, I recommend going all out, you've got a generic head and normal hands on this crazy long neck and torso, it just doesn't balance out. I'm a skinny tall, noodle person, and I have long piano player/witch fingers, for instance.
This is why I use reference for crazy ass foreshortning poses, I think its impossible to get that right from memory unless you are a jedi master .
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That is a neat color scheme but I can't look at it without thinking "quaint prairie home as viewed by THE PREDATOR"
CONFUSED. EXPRESSIONS.
that's a good thing you drew
I love it
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Obilex interpreted my remarks correctly! I would love for you to experiment with getting rid of those black thick smudgey lines, even if its just reducing the brush size and drawing with a colour rather than black - or painting and cutting back so that the lines disappear. I think it will really benefit the look of your work.
Anyways pretty much just a copy-pasta from my thread, just looking for basic first impressions and feedback.
Okay thanks, I was wondering who that was.
Hahaha "dig" dammit
Yeah anyways its cool.
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this is a dragon for Melding's dragon compendium
it's a demon using a dead dragon's body
name of Black King
I think I'll just throw some lines back there and call it a day
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Regardless, they look cool.
Yes.
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You pulled it off nicely.
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PROX. walk through the parking lot, take a left at delmar, right at delacey (across from the salvation army store) go north until you hit green street. You will smell delicious coffee buns; locate the Papa Rich store on the left and buy me one.
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It is my white wale.
I can never wrap my head around how the whole process works. I understand that it relies heavily, if not entirely on perspective, but beyond that I'm lost without a compass.
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ya gotta do perspective to do foreshortening
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The gunslinger guy is a more refined piece. Before anyone says anything - yes his lanky proportions are intentional. keeping that in mind, feel free to rip it apart!
Should i have pushed darks darker? i just feel directionless lately.
Needlessly pedantic discussion about art terms incoming:
I don't quite agree with the first part, though I agree with the second- in order to do foreshortening well, a knowledge of perspective is very useful, though I'd say it's more about construction (which, of course, also requires perspective knowledge to do well.)
To my mind, foreshortening is really all about how to accentuate the forms of an object to create overlaps that create the illusion of depth- one can have good perspective, and yet have ineffective foreshortening. To give an example:
The first image is (while not very well drawn), has decent foreshortening- the overlapping lines create a sense of form and depth in the drawing, and it seems to be in decent enough perspective.
The next image is the same thing, same perspective, but with all the overlaps removed- it makes it difficult to tell if it's coming or going, and it makes it hard to tell if it's in good perspective or not.
The bottom two images show what can happen if you don't quite understand or pay attention to foreshortening- things get flattened out or run counter to one's intention, because the artist isn't giving enough attention to how the lines indicating form and their overlaps function to create a sense of depth.
Now to bring it back to Obilex's picture, yeah, there are perspective issues; even for someone with a lot of perspective experience, the extreme angle would give a lot of trouble, and doing the formal perspective legwork here would help things a lot, sure.
But if we're talking about foreshortening exclusively, the issue becomes more about choice of detail- having brushstrokes/details/wrinkles go across the form rather than down it, in order to create some overlaps that can help sell that perspective, that kind of thing.
(This might have been a slightly unnecessary thing to go on about, but whatever.)
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