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[Megaten Discussion] Elizabeth added to P4A; P4's cast is already dead.

cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm RegentChantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
edited March 2012 in Games and Technology
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If somehow made it this far without contacting the local authorities and aren't up on series history, you're probably wondering what that's all about.

Ask Dr. Steven sometime.


If you like your monster summoning games to stay simple, clean-cut, and free of the occult, you might want to stop here.

If you care to step into the darker side of the genre, then carry on.

There's a metric ton of educational software you can use to brush up on Devil Summoning 101.

Consult your local occult retailer for availability.

The Origins - SNES
(Technically Megami Tensei on the NES, but let's keep it Atlus, if I may.)
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The core games that started it all, known for sadistic first person dungeons, gun and/or melee combat, and a whole ton of demons. The original Megami Tensei games on the NES focused on two characters and a horde of demons. The Shin Megami Tensei games expanded on this to allow for branching paths, a more varied cast, and (much) higher stakes; namely saving the world from global apocalypse.

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Both SMT 1 & 2 have been fantranslated.

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If you'd rather not endure the innumerable hours beating these games would take and would rather just experience the story, you're in luck; I did it for you.

Let's Plays, c/o yours truly

Shin Megami Tensei

Shin Megami Tensei II

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As for If, it's never been fan-translated, but you can find some helpful guides if you know where to look.

PS1 - Next Generation
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The second series of SMT games branched out a lot from the core titles; leading to the Persona games(which is easily SMT's most popular offshoot now), the Devil Summoner titles(also available on the Saturn), and of course, remakes of the original SMT games, as well as the gaiden/sidestory(and precursor to Persona), SMT 'If...' .

Persona 1 started out as basically another first-person dungeon crawler,

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but thankfully P2 switched it up a bit.

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Still, if you're feeling sadistic, P1 is available both as the (hilariously translated) PS1 version and the PSP remake.

As good as P2 is, the crown jewel of this era is considered by most to be...

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Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers.

The above title is being fan-translated by the same lunatics who brought you Innocent Sin in English, so stay tuned for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyFBp9biDw

Rest assured, it'll be worth it.

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Totally.

GBA and/or DS - the low cost, high profit route
Quite a few SMT games are available on the go, some more niche than others.

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Very few people have played this cute little gem. It's SMT Pokemon, basically, but with turn based RPG party combat. You could do worse for a starter.

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Or, if you prefer, turn-based strategic combat:

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With plenty of characters everyone loves that aren't horribly designed at all!

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Maybe some old-school dungeon crawling?

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Strange Journey is a massive homage to SMT 1 & 2, though the head designer Kazuma Kaneko himself has said it's essentially SMT IV. Make of that what you will.

Sadistic maps for everyone!

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You're bound to make plenty of new friends.

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He just likes playing hard to get.


PS2 - The Golden Age
If you don't own this console, you're probably missing out on the best titles.

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A little of everything.

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The third Shin Megami Tensei game, localized without the III to minimize confusion, considered by most(myself included) to be the best SMT game of them all.

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The third Devil Summoner game, detailing the adventures of Raidou Kuzunoha, ace Devil Summoning Detective, and the first real-time SMT action-RPG. Notable for having the most sadistic 'hard' mode in any game ever. The sequel is much better from a gameplay perspective, while the original has the better plot; subjectively speaking.

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On the plus side, Raidou happens to know the best fusioner around.


And of course, one of the more successful and excellent stand-alone offshoot titles:

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Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner basically runs on SMT III's engine, but is a totally different beast.

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Think Final Fantasy X's skill system + Nocturne's Press Turn + cannibalism + Hinduism with ambient guitar music and there you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQLGKydpxt4

There were a couple Persona games on the PS2 as well. I hear they're kinda popular.


Last and not least, the PSP's been getting SMT love too:
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We heard you like female protagonists, so of course that means pink interface!

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And of course, the forthcoming Persona 2 remake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzXLed9QGRs

[strike]Maya[/strike] Tatsuya's back with a vengeance.

There's a pretty awesome quest creation mode that lets you make your own [strike]fanfiction[/strike] adventures! With a really awesome hostess.

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Keep rockin', Soejima.

What's next?

Glad you asked!

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I guess the Devil Survival trend isn't dead yet.

At least the cast is classier this time around.


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No word on a US release yet, but let's be realistic, and of course:

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Very interested in Devil Survivor 2.

    Nothing else interesting to say at this point.

  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Still happy Atlus haven't abandoned the DS yet

  • BursarBursar Smile for the Gamera Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Man, everybody in that DS2 artwork needs to eat a sandwich. Even floaty-mask thing.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The first Devil Survivor really got its hooks into my brain and compelled me to beat it double-quick, even moreso than Strange Journey. I'm definitely getting 2 as soon as it comes out, and if I could afford a 3DS I'd definitely be getting Overclocked too.

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  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Atlus will happily lag behind the cutting edge if it means good games, so I expect them to be on the DS for a while yet. (See: P4).

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Nice OP as usual, cj.

    I still haven't managed to finish Devil Survivor yet. I love SMT and I like me some SRPGs, but it doesn't seem to scratch either itch.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User
    edited March 2011
    I'm kinda excited for Devil Survivor 2, though I should really get around to beating the first one some time soon.

    You do know that first picture under the SNES listing is actually from the remake of the two NES games, right?

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That reminds me, I still need to beat Lucifer and get those three other endings in DeSu1.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Gimme Nocturne 2, Atlus.

  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Gimme Lucifer's Call 2, Atlus.

  • ystaelystael Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Still have to finish DDS2 so I can find out what the hell is up with the cat.

    I assume there is something up with the cat, anyway. It would be a pretty awesome troll if after everything it were just a cat with suspiciously toothy bells on its collar.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Bursar wrote: »
    Man, everybody in that DS2 artwork needs to eat a sandwich. Even floaty-mask thing.

    I think Io's pretty healthy.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    New Persona 2 trailer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrkEGmU38Mw

    Things of note:

    -First reveal of Holy Lance Knight's remix (decent, original is better)
    -Maya's Theme remix sounds awesome
    -Seems like all the same VAs are back, unless they just reused them.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    First, it was Persona 3.

    Then, it was Persona 3 FES.

    Then came Persona 3 Portable.

    With the advent of the 3DS, the next step is clear.
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    EDIT: HQ version.
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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Son of a bitch, it never stops does it?

  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You could make it stop if you made a contract with me! /人 ‿‿ 人\

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Persona 3: Dick?

  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    No no, the main character is still the brooding guy, not Ken.

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It's not a shop?

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Persona 3: Dumbass?

    Main character: Junpei.

  • TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is a photoshop, right? Right?

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Nope.
    I used GIMP to make it.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User
    edited March 2011
    You shoulda waited for Friday to post it then.

  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wish Io kept her jacket in the game itself.

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I think she IS wearing her jacket.

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    Unless you're talking about wearing the jacket the way she's doing in the promo art. As though she's stripping. :winky:

  • OtogiOtogi Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Eikichi's dialog is just so great (although I will admit the new voice actor seems to have a better grasp of English, unfortunately).

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It's not the same one?


    And part of the reason I'll take an official US release over the fan translation is so I can hear how Eikichi sounds (properly) dubbed.

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  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I think she IS wearing her jacket.

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    Unless you're talking about wearing the jacket the way she's doing in the promo art. As though she's stripping. :winky:

    I'm talking about the red jacket in her character art.

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  • DizzenDizzen Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    I think she IS wearing her jacket.

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    Unless you're talking about wearing the jacket the way she's doing in the promo art. As though she's stripping. :winky:

    I'm talking about the red jacket in her character art.

    Sure, it's a nifty enough looking jacket, but if it's really cold enough to warrant yet another layer of clothing, she might need to consider wearing some pants as well.

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    it'd be like Jurassic Park, but with bananas
  • PMAversPMAvers GomorraRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    P3P:

    Is there a trick to
    goddamn Fortune & Strength?

    Oh, joy, the wheel just panic'd the entire party, and Strength comes over and one-shots the MC. o_O

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I believe you want to stop the wheel on the other side of what you want it to land on.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They still make Final Fantasy games?

    Can't believe this train wreck of a series is still going. And this new game, Versus?

    The guy looks like the love-child of Justin Bieber and Sasuke.

    I'm going to call him Skieber.

  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm betting it'll end with the guy being pulled over by the cops, him pulling a piece and blasting like a motherfucker before going down in a hail of bullets.

    The story will be about how he got to be so fucked up.

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  • BeezelBeezel I subsist on a diet of spite and saltRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They still make Final Fantasy games?

    Can't believe this train wreck of a series is still going. And this new game, Versus?

    The guy looks like the love-child of Justin Bieber and Sasuke.

    I'm going to call him Skieber.

    it's funny that you mention Sasuke because the new guy's name means Night or something
    And as anyone familiar with Naruto knows, Sasuke's Darkness is MAXIMUM

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nothing a little bit of LIGHT can't solve!

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    You can tell he's hardcore because he's only wearing one glove.

    And there's a totally hot girl who flirts with him and he's just "Pffft, whatever, ho".

  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Really? I only noticed the girl.

    The glove is kinda cool too, I guess.

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  • BeezelBeezel I subsist on a diet of spite and saltRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Noctis is a totally overpowered mary sue just like Sasuke too.

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  • PMAversPMAvers GomorraRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I believe you want to stop the wheel on the other side of what you want it to land on.

    Yeah, that seemed to do it.

    Strength went down pretty hard, actually. Funny, I got a Panic off on it, and then the party got Enraged. The MC and Koro basically ripped it a new asshole. :winky:

    And then Fortune... damn. I think it got maybe one attack off total, since Koro was a critting machine and kept on knocking it down to trigger All-Outs.

    Afterwards...
    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK D:

    Congratulations, Stigia (or however it's spelled) asshole. You just topped my shit-list, and if I ever get a chance to get revenge on him, he's going to be in a world of hurt.

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  • OtogiOtogi Registered User
    edited April 2011
    You know, I think I'm stepping back into the Final Fantasy plate. MegaTen games are starting to get tiring, but the second Dissida is looking pretty sweet. My FF14 experience is going the way I hoped, but it's interesting and I'm still holding in.

    In the meantime, I'll get back to my save for IV on the DS <3

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