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[Megaten Discussion] Elizabeth added to P4A; P4's cast is already dead.
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Hopefully this isn't another downloadable situation.
Heck, if they wanted to include the IS scenarios we missed, that's fine too.
(Yeah right)
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If you liked P3 for only the social links, and didn't like the combat, I don't think the mainline SMT series would be for you. There's a heavy emphasis on combat and dungeon crawling for the mainline series and no social links or barely if any permanent party members. I'd say they're still very much worth a try though, and the other spin-off series might be more to your tastes.
SMT3:Nocturne for the PS2 has the best combat in the series imo, but it has minimal storytelling and a much heavier emphasis on dungeon crawling than P3/P4. The combat is much better, and the dark, lonely atmosphere is unrivaled but if dungeon crawling isn't your thing you wouldn't like it. It can also be hard as balls.
The Devil Survivor series for the DS are a separate line of games from the mainline ones ala Persona. They have SRPG elements and have great stories(at least 1 had, don't know about 2 yet), but some of the missions can be pretty annoying. Can't speak for 2, but I had trouble finishing 1 myself. Lot's of people find it great, so there's that though.
I thought P4 was a much better and focused game than P3, but people are divided on that issue, so that depends on your tastes too.
So what I'm really asking is, are there games in the series that aren't based around a single boring dungeon? Perhaps some actual exploration?
Disclaimer: My opinions are for narrative reasons, not mechanical (although that was greatly improved).
Well, yes, there is quite a bit of exploration in many Megaten titles. Although fair warning the greater majority of it consists of Wizardry style first person dungeon crawling.
I mean, it's sort of tough to recommend any other Megaten games to you based on your experiences with P3 because it shares almost literally nothing in common with any of the other games aside from P4, which is mechanically extremely similar. Even Persona 1 and 2 are vastly, vastly different games.
For the record, Innocent Sin comes first.
Did you not play Innocent Sin or something? You should fix that.
Short version, yes. Yes there are.
As for me, I'm not getting my hopes up about EP until they actually announce it for the US. Remember how no one cared about Innocent Sin at all, as shown in this very topic? Yeah. Anything that's not anime dating sims are poison to the Atlus fanbase now.
Innocent Sin just showed up on the AU PSN store, so I'm going to grab that tomorrow.
Is it similar to Persona 3 in any way? I know Persona 3 changed a lot of stuff, and I've only ever played 3 and 4.
well
there are characters
and they can summon personas.
There's dating, to an extent. You go on a date with a guy who totally has a crush on you. Yes, Innocent Sin is about Boys' Love and Daddy issues.
EDIT: Okay, that's a little much, even as a joke.
I did play EP first though, so I'm a bit biased.
I'd like to think IS sold well just off the strength of the Persona brand, but who knows.
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P3's dungeon structure is unique. P4 does something similar in that the dungeon floors are still randomly generated but (I'm pretty sure) has fewer floors you have to go through and different scenery. Other Megaten and spinoff games are more traditional in terms of dungeon structure.
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My condolences then, and I hope EP is more helpful in that regard.
And according to the news, the color scheme is CUSTOMIZABLE! Yaaaay.
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Comparing the two games, I'd say EP is better. It also ties down a shit-ton more of the story together, and the character depth goes WAY beyond "Boo-hoo I don't agree with my father all the time!"
Already own P3P.
I can't help but laugh. I had the same thing happen to me.
I don't have an earlier save. So a potential party member has to die... *sigh*. My options are start the game over, or just grit my teeth and bare it, and swear to not let it happen again. I guess the saving grace is that with 12 possible characters, you can have some room for error and still get by. From what I read up though, it seems that almost everyone has the potential to die...
Well in P4 there is a different dungeon for each segment of the story, with distinctive looks and theme songs, and each of them is like 8-11 floors, tops. The actual dungeon gameplay is pretty much the same as P3, but the brisker pace and frequent changes of scenery make it a lot less tedious. There's less than half the amount of total floors, I don't think the number even breaks a hundred.
No rescue missions, either. You can redo each dungeon to fight an optional boss, and that's really the only reason to go back and it's easily ignored.
If you liked the writing and combat in P3 overall, give P4 a shot.
If you have a PS2, get Nocturne and DDS then. Awesome, awesome games with great atmosphere and some of the best turn-based combat to exist. And like others said, P4 has much better pacing than P3 making the dungeon sequences fun, not tedious. I also didn't like P3 all that much, but I loved P4. Try it out.
Well... yeah. Nearly everyone could die in the first Devil Survivor too. Although you had to be really stupid (or skilled) to get everybody killed in that game.
You can view file sizes on the PlayStation Store. It's next to the name of the game, like "(1.24 GB required)."
I don't have P2P yet or I would check for you.
The Chie action figure is up for preorder today. I dig the disguise.
Live stream of arena.
Mitsuru looks godly. Seems like she has a great poking/footsy game.
Also buppa vs shadow vids from game chariot.
Do you have a magic MC? If so, Be sure to set yourself up with Force Dance, and maybe Samarecarm + Mediarahan, just in case. At the start of the battle, rush straight ahead with a Avian and Wilder Demon, switch out the Avian and Summon a Kishin. Next turn (if Belberith killed your Kishin, just revive him real quick) move forward up to the edge, ignoring the Shomonkai members.
You should reach the edge and have a gap between you and Belberith. Dismiss your Wilder, and Summon a Vile. Now attack, attack, attack. Spamming the ever-loving shit out of Force Dance. He should go down quickly enough.
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