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Double blind bombs work well - especially combined with eHaley's feat. The really nice thing about using Gorman with Temporal acceleration is that you don't have to choose only one bomb. I've often run into situations with Gorman where I want to be doing multiple things. Being able to blind and rust a jack helps kill or cripple it when you can't devote enough attacks otherwise. Being able to throw multiple acid bombs can do a number on a unit. It doubles his impact on the game when you decide to commit him.
I am looking at the casters, and not a lot of the models are super inspiring. The interwebs tells me that Saeryn is the most competitive one but her model looks like a rank and file dude. I like pVayl, and it seems she is pretty competitive. What are some good models to purchase with her (battlebox most likely too).
Aidan Twosouls, Dwarf Shaman, in Vale of Buried Shadows
Compromise: on paper, he's Kr3oss. Out loud, he's 3oss.
pThags is a very solid and forgiving caster. Right now he's probably my favorite to play. Note: He plays very different from the rest of the faction as he's much more attrition than I'm gonna nom your face off.
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Trolls get a "Mountain King", and skorne get a giant mammoth.
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So they were never able to successfully enslave the Giant from Monsternomicon 2.
Thanks. I picked up a heavy warbeast kit, bolt thrower dude, and a ravogore because it was on sale for $25. Ravogore is missing the goddamn torso =/
Definitely mountain king http://dev.adepticon.org/2012/03/colossals-diorama-by-privateer-press-at.html#more
This should get you your Ravagore torso.
It just got me thinking: Why do Ret jack's have to look like a giant pile of shit? All the ret infantry looks pretty classy in my opinion, but the warjacks are god damn stupid.
Everyone knows a bad paint job can really ruin a model.
This. Although I think the Vyre chassis jacks and Hyperion are a step in the right direction. That extra shoulder-pad and the shoulder-cannons really help break up the big blank panels.
That goddamn white paintjob, though. Bluh.
Something I hope we see in the next book are some Vyre lights, because the lights out right now are godawful. I mean, 'fer fucks sake, how is the Aspis supposed to compare to awesome models like the Minuteman?
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Also, I can copy/paste the first posts to start a new thread, if no one else will.
I'm not sure that Cygnar lights would be the ones I'm running to for comparison
The Minuteman is awesome but him and the hunter far outclass the other lights we have available.
I dunno, I actually *like* most of the Cygnar lights. Especially the Sentinel.
At least the Cygnar lights have decent rules to back them up, though. The only light I've ran in Ret is the Griffon, and only with Vyros as a flank-machine.
EDIT: Also, I just realized that I need to buy four of the new Vyre kits. My poor wallet. <_<
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Most Cygnar casters are very focus hungry. The charger wants three focus in order to function. Most of our casters are focus six. Many of them run upkeeps. Many of them want to cast additional support spells on any turn when the charger would be able to shoot important targets. This means that powering the charger creates a huge decrease in performance for the rest of your list. The charger can't make up for that with two shots.
The Sentenel is in an even worse situation - it has an unreliable number of attacks. Since it provides multiple low-pow attacks at a middling RAT, it ends up wanting to boost either to-hit or damage. Light infantry has too much defense to be easy to hit, heavy infantry has too much armor. The unreliable number of attacks means that it's impossible to assign focus to the sentinel efficiently. If it could benefit from gun mage rune shots, it would make a good marshaled jack, but it can't so you are unlikely to see it except as a paranoid contingency against Eiryss.
The grenadier can work in 50+ point games, but you need to bring trencher models and marshal it to gun mages. That's a big point commitment, and anything that the grenadier can kill well is also vulnerable to gun mages.
The firefly is good when paired with stormsmiths. It doesn't pull it's weight on its own.
The hunter is good because it deals with heavily armored models - a weakness in most Cygnar lists.
The minuteman provides multiple high pow ranged attacks, a damage effect that doesn't roll to hit, two handed throws, and high mobility. It also synergizes with our major jack casters.
Cygnar lights are either point-efficient or focus efficent, but rarely both. They compete against powerful units like the Black 13th, and Aiyana and Holt, as well as important solos like Gorman. They have low defense, ineffective armor, and their special rules are difficult to use effectively.
They can be powerful, but when you put them in a list, you had better be sure that they cover some otherwise terrible vulnerability, and that you have the focus to support your army while simultaneously running your light jacks. Most cygnar casters cant manage the latter, and solve the former in other ways. This is why most cygnar lists may include hunters or minutemen, but not other lights unless they're running a gimmick.
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Wrong Eye and Snapjaw
Bull Snapper
Hell, I'd take Triumph.
EDIT: The only reason why I even own some of the lights was because they had a limit of one Heavy Jack kit per customer at the PP booth the GenCon Ret was released, so I needed some more models to play in Iron Arena. oh god Mark I Ret so painful...
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Done. We'll trade him for Discordia.
Yes we will.
e: Also: I'm psyching myself up for N3mo having Iron Aggression and/or Escort. Don't let me down PP
However, if N3mo and the Stormwall synergize with Stormsmiths I will beat Soles to death with his own femur. Stormsmiths can go fuck themselves.
Honestly, I'm okay with the trade.
Don't even really use it that much. Probably going to go All Vyre, All The Time once I get my mitts on them.
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... and I cough for every crater that I could see, / on the surface of that coffin we've come to call the moon." Circle Takes the Square
Personally I base, glue dude to base (depending on how I'm doing the basing this can get flipped around), then prime the whole model and then paint.