Solving Crimes on the Small Screen

chiasaur11

I just remembered my current guilty-pleasure-if-I-had-any-shame.

Does anyone else watch Hawaii 5-0?

It's insane. All bad cop. And it has no idea of "cliffhanger" or "not shooting the perp" or "standard interrogation methods".

Fun times.

Kusuguttai

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Does he ever stop pretending to be psychic? Everything about that show was great except for when he would pretend he has having psychic moments.

That just annoyed me.

yes, they completely abandoned the entire premise of the show like three seasons ago

The premise of the show was the things his dad taught him as a kid and how he used it to solve crime with his buddy Dule Hill

Pretending to be a psychic is how he got a job at the police station, and I was wondering if they ever discovered he was "faking".

if you don't think him pretending to be a psychic detective, especially considering the title of the show, is the show's premise

then

i don't really know what to tell you. that you don't understand premises, i guess

Drijen

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

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if you don't think him pretending to be a psychic detective, especially considering the title of the show, is the show's premise

then

i don't really know what to tell you. that you don't understand premises, i guess

I mean really! Thats like 'Premises 101!'

lostwords

Look they were sanctioned by the hawaiian governor to fight crime by any means necessary

Also Scott caan is awesome

chiasaur11

Drijen wrote: »

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

I know!

I mean, after lots of cop shows where they talk about how "fiendishly clever" the criminals are and worrying about the legal system, it's a delight to have wall to wall violence and wisecracks.

It's like a never-ending game of good cop bad cop where everyone is trying to be bad cop.

Drijen

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

I know!

I mean, after lots of cop shows where they talk about how "fiendishly clever" the criminals are and worrying about the legal system, it's a delight to have wall to wall violence and wisecracks.

It's like a never-ending game of good cop bad cop where everyone is trying to be bad cop.

The basic interrogation is just the two of them trying to one-up each other about just how severely they will hurt a dude or how dedicated to violence they are in regards to the dude being questioned. This is a thing that happens multiple times.

Javen

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Does he ever stop pretending to be psychic? Everything about that show was great except for when he would pretend he has having psychic moments.

That just annoyed me.

yes, they completely abandoned the entire premise of the show like three seasons ago

The premise of the show was the things his dad taught him as a kid and how he used it to solve crime with his buddy Dule Hill

Pretending to be a psychic is how he got a job at the police station, and I was wondering if they ever discovered he was "faking".

if you don't think him pretending to be a psychic detective, especially considering the title of the show, is the show's premise

then

i don't really know what to tell you. that you don't understand premises, i guess

A shows premise can change pretty drastically over time, though.

Kusuguttai

Javen wrote: »

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Kusuguttai wrote: »

I Win Swordfights wrote: »

Does he ever stop pretending to be psychic? Everything about that show was great except for when he would pretend he has having psychic moments.

That just annoyed me.

yes, they completely abandoned the entire premise of the show like three seasons ago

The premise of the show was the things his dad taught him as a kid and how he used it to solve crime with his buddy Dule Hill

Pretending to be a psychic is how he got a job at the police station, and I was wondering if they ever discovered he was "faking".

if you don't think him pretending to be a psychic detective, especially considering the title of the show, is the show's premise

then

i don't really know what to tell you. that you don't understand premises, i guess

A shows premise can change pretty drastically over time, though.

it can, but psych's hasnt

chiasaur11

Drijen wrote: »

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

I know!

I mean, after lots of cop shows where they talk about how "fiendishly clever" the criminals are and worrying about the legal system, it's a delight to have wall to wall violence and wisecracks.

It's like a never-ending game of good cop bad cop where everyone is trying to be bad cop.

The basic interrogation is just the two of them trying to one-up each other about just how severely they will hurt a dude or how dedicated to violence they are in regards to the dude being questioned. This is a thing that happens multiple times.

Remember when McGarrett pulled a GRENADE to get a suspect to come out? And when that didn't work, he blew up the door?

It's beautiful.

Javen

And concerning Psych, I do think the show could stand to lose the whole 'pretend psychic' angle. Similar to how Castle started with Nathan Fillion following around the girl cop to write a book, but kept doing it even after the book was finished, and sort of became an unofficial consultant who they actually valued instead of being seen as a liability

Kusuguttai

i dont know about that though
i don't think the show would be the same
it's not really a show i feel has to evolve much more past the point that it's gotten to
it's a crime of the week show, that's pretty much it

I Win Swordfights

I saw the first three episodes of Psyche and then got annoyed and stopped

So that is why I don't know anything about the state of the show today

Balefuego

the name of the show is Psyche

Blake T

I kinda like 5-0.

Like if it's on tv I will watch it. But I don't ever see myself buying DVDs or anything.

Much like burn notice.

It's just excellent consume and forget tv.

Drijen

Javen wrote: »

And concerning Psych, I do think the show could stand to lose the whole 'pretend psychic' angle. Similar to how Castle started with Nathan Fillion following around the girl cop to write a book, but kept doing it even after the book was finished, and sort of became an unofficial consultant who they actually valued instead of being seen as a liability

Perhaps it could, but I feel like the tone of the show kind of hinges on the disconnect that the fake psychic thing offers. Like, it can be goofy partly because of the wink wink nudge nudge of it and making him just an observant consultant would lead to a lot of the behavior just looking callous as shit. If a normal consultant stops working on a murder case to get some horchata or frozen yogurt they would just be an asshole.

Kusuguttai

Balefuego wrote: »

the name of the show is Psyche

no, it's psych

Balefuego

I think you are missing my point Kusu

Drijen

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

I know!

I mean, after lots of cop shows where they talk about how "fiendishly clever" the criminals are and worrying about the legal system, it's a delight to have wall to wall violence and wisecracks.

It's like a never-ending game of good cop bad cop where everyone is trying to be bad cop.

The basic interrogation is just the two of them trying to one-up each other about just how severely they will hurt a dude or how dedicated to violence they are in regards to the dude being questioned. This is a thing that happens multiple times.

Remember when McGarrett pulled a GRENADE to get a suspect to come out? And when that didn't work, he blew up the door?

It's beautiful.

I feel like an absurd number of people get dangled off of tall buildings. More than strictly necessary, but certainly not more than enjoyable.

Zonugal

Are we talking about the greatest detectives ever?

Hacksaw

Best TV detectives you say

A Dabble Of Thelonius

I like Southland and I liked Life.

Castle is good I guess.

chiasaur11

Drijen wrote: »

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

chiasaur11 wrote: »

Drijen wrote: »

I'll admit to that guilty pleasure as well. I caught an episode one night and after those supposed 'cops' spent the whole time just breaking things and shooting while cracking wise about how cool it was that they were being dingbats I figured it couldn't hurt to watch a bit more.

I know!

I mean, after lots of cop shows where they talk about how "fiendishly clever" the criminals are and worrying about the legal system, it's a delight to have wall to wall violence and wisecracks.

It's like a never-ending game of good cop bad cop where everyone is trying to be bad cop.

The basic interrogation is just the two of them trying to one-up each other about just how severely they will hurt a dude or how dedicated to violence they are in regards to the dude being questioned. This is a thing that happens multiple times.

Remember when McGarrett pulled a GRENADE to get a suspect to come out? And when that didn't work, he blew up the door?

It's beautiful.

I feel like an absurd number of people get dangled off of tall buildings. More than strictly necessary, but certainly not more than enjoyable.

They also threaten people's families and cheat at basketball.

IS NOTHING SACRED?

A Dabble Of Thelonius

Balefuego wrote: »

You know what they say about Veronica Mars

she's a marshmallow

Bale, I love you.

Zonugal

The ninth season of Law & Order: Criminal Intent has perhaps the darkest episode of any criminal procedural show I've ever seen. "Abel & Willing" focuses on "A tormented social scientist haunted by his family's Holocaust past performs twisted social experiments on couples to test the limits of goodness in human nature."

It is revealed that the social scientist captures couples and hooks them up to a mechanical contraption where one partner has a gun locked in to aim at the other partners head. But they also have a pistol aimed at their own head. They are told they have a minute to decide, them or their partner.

The end of the episode shows off a montage of forty or so couples crying while they murder their partners. The only couple that doesn't submit to killing their partner is an elderly one, with the old husband telling his crying wife he is okay dying for her.

Jeff Goldblum starts crying and than you start crying and Jesus Christ it was so incredibly sad...

A Dabble Of Thelonius

Law & Order : Saw

Zonugal

Law & Order: Goldblum Tears.

Blake T

When zonogul says it's sad....

And sad not because it isn't depraved enough.

Then you know it's sad.

Bedigunz

Zonugal wrote: »

The ninth season of Law & Order: Criminal Intent has perhaps the darkest episode of any criminal procedural show I've ever seen. "Abel & Willing" focuses on "A tormented social scientist haunted by his family's Holocaust past performs twisted social experiments on couples to test the limits of goodness in human nature."

It is revealed that the social scientist captures couples and hooks them up to a mechanical contraption where one partner has a gun locked in to aim at the other partners head. But they also have a pistol aimed at their own head. They are told they have a minute to decide, them or their partner.

The end of the episode shows off a montage of forty or so couples crying while they murder their partners. The only couple that doesn't submit to killing their partner is an elderly one, with the old husband telling his crying wife he is okay dying for her.

Jeff Goldblum starts crying and than you start crying and Jesus Christ it was so incredibly sad...

What the...

what?

Artreus

I like Law and Order: LA because the main cop was also the main Character in Jericho. Which was a show I really liked even though it had some big problems.

Zonugal

Blake T wrote: »

When zonogul says it's sad....

And sad not because it isn't depraved enough.

Then you know it's sad.

I shall for ever be the proper scale for tragedy and sorrow.

BusterK

Artreus wrote: »

I like Law and Order: LA because the main cop was also the main Character in Jericho. Which was a show I really liked even though it had some big problems.

I like Alfred Molina

I think Alfred Molina is a very good actor

Him playing a Mexican with the same name as my father is like a bonus

Artreus

Also yeah Alfred Molina being in it is definitely a bonus.

BusterK

I'm watching later episodes of Law and Order on TNT
and I feel like yelling at Thomas Wayne for not listening to Jack McCoy
He's trying to get justice damn it!

Zonugal

BusterK wrote: »

I'm watching later episodes of Law and Order on TNT
and I feel like yelling at Thomas Wayne for not listening to Jack McCoy
He's trying to get justice damn it!

I absolutely love Linus Roache as A.D.A. Michael Cutter. He has the passion and brutality of Jack McCoy but he differs in that Cutter will use downright tricks or theatrical gimmicks to win a case.

But he still couldn't hold a candle to Jack McCoy.

Nechriah

Favourite TV detectives you say? This guy is mine



There needs to be a second season of this already.

Langly

also, for one season of tv perfection, find a way to watch Terriers

Balefuego

for 4 seasons of TV perfection, watch The Wire

(I haven't seen season 5 yet so it could be 5 I don't know)

AMP'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk

Ranlin

This thread has reminded me again that I have watched and enjoyed far, far too many cop shows.

Also I watched that episode of L&O:CI Zonugal mentioned. The subject matter was certainly terribly sad, but in true L&O fashion the presentation kept me thoroughly disconnected from it. I've never been sure if that's a good or bad thing, but it's been consistent through every iteration of L&O, no matter how horrible of an idea they come up with.

Bedigunz

I'm surprised they didn't splice in the clip from Supertroopers