Just because an option is the Renegade option doesn't mean it isn't the smart thing to do...
Really, I don't see the complaint.
A couple of Renegade points isn't going to kill you.
Heck, I'd complain if it wasn't renegade.
It's a rapid action, so it's an interrupt.
It's killing someone, so it's renegade.
If things are being banned from being renegade just because they make sense, than killing the Rachni queen is neutral. We all know what they did, they present a clear risk. Genophage? Paragon. It's much nicer than extermination.
It would restrict renegade to being a giant dick for no reason.
What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her
You have no idea who she is or is going to shoot you with her gun
I'd say that's pretty renegade.
She was lying through her teeth... Not just because of the evidence you find later, but it's as the one Volus said at the beginning of the mission: No Eclipse Sister gets her armor until she kills someone.
All I'm sayin' is
She's dressed as an enemy combatant, you are in the middle of a fight, you have a gun on her, and she sees you, and your gun, and draws.
Shooting her is not a Renegade action. It's the smart thing to do. The "neutral" option is incredibly stupid. I can't understand why anyone in that situation would think it was a good idea to let her draw her gun and point it at you.
In short, videogames= srs bsns
Shooting her immediately is a pretty asshole move when you consider the fact that with your shields and stuff, you could take like 15 shots from her before anything bad happened, and by that time one of your two squadmates would have dropped her. It's like saying you have to shoot someone when they pull out a knife even though you're on the second floor of a building and they'd have to take the elevator up to stab you.
What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her
You have no idea who she is or is going to shoot you with her gun
I'd say that's pretty renegade.
She was lying through her teeth... Not just because of the evidence you find later, but it's as the one Volus said at the beginning of the mission: No Eclipse Sister gets her armor until she kills someone.
All I'm sayin' is
She's dressed as an enemy combatant, you are in the middle of a fight, you have a gun on her, and she sees you, and your gun, and draws.
Shooting her is not a Renegade action. It's the smart thing to do. The "neutral" option is incredibly stupid. I can't understand why anyone in that situation would think it was a good idea to let her draw her gun and point it at you.
In short, videogames= srs bsns
Shooting her immediately is a pretty asshole move when you consider the fact that with your shields and stuff, you could take like 15 shots from her before anything bad happened, and by that time one of your two squadmates would have dropped her. It's like saying you have to shoot someone when they pull out a knife even though you're on the second floor of a building and they'd have to take the elevator up to stab you.
That's like complaining when cops kill a suspect instead of shooting the gun out of their hand.
If you have military training, if someone goes for a gun, you shoot them. It doesn't matter if you're wearing a bullet proof vest or not. Just ask Jenkins how well his shields held up.
In increases Shepard's left hook by a factor of ten.
When testing armor, they simulate interactions with journalists. It's rumored that the dummies used when testing that particular design were completely obliterated.
A couple of Renegade points isn't going to kill you.
Fo' realz
Randy Shepard (who coincidentaly looks like a cross between Jason Statham and Randy Couture) was uber paragon, but did most of the renegade interrupts (Asari merc, merc out the window, Krogan BBQ etc) and by the end Paragon was almost completely full, while renegade barely registered a blip.
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Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her
You have no idea who she is or is going to shoot you with her gun
I'd say that's pretty renegade.
She was lying through her teeth... Not just because of the evidence you find later, but it's as the one Volus said at the beginning of the mission: No Eclipse Sister gets her armor until she kills someone.
All I'm sayin' is
She's dressed as an enemy combatant, you are in the middle of a fight, you have a gun on her, and she sees you, and your gun, and draws.
Shooting her is not a Renegade action. It's the smart thing to do. The "neutral" option is incredibly stupid. I can't understand why anyone in that situation would think it was a good idea to let her draw her gun and point it at you.
In short, videogames= srs bsns
Shooting her immediately is a pretty asshole move when you consider the fact that with your shields and stuff, you could take like 15 shots from her before anything bad happened, and by that time one of your two squadmates would have dropped her. It's like saying you have to shoot someone when they pull out a knife even though you're on the second floor of a building and they'd have to take the elevator up to stab you.
That's like complaining when cops kill a suspect instead of shooting the gun out of their hand.
If you have military training, if someone goes for a gun, you shoot them. It doesn't matter if you're wearing a bullet proof vest or not. Just ask Jenkins how well his shields held up.
Jenkins was wearing plot shields that failed for plot reasons. Shepard has shown the ability to not just shoot the shit out of someone when it's not needed. See: Bring Down the Sky.
You are told from the beginning of the mission that to wear the Eclipse uniform, you must murder someone. She is wearing the uniform. She pulls a gun on you. She is clearly very stupid, and also a coward. Therefore, death!
What I always liked is how in that scene she only manages to get one shot off with the Tempest.
A full automatic SMG
Must have needed to pop the heatsink.
I think that's another case of the game when it switches to cutscenes about how it can't seem to decide which weapons people are using.
Kinda how like if you get the firepower pack, people randomly start swapping between the Phalanx pistol and the Default Pistol in cutscenes, and then the regular SMG and the Locust SMG as well.
It's actually kinda hilarious to see a scene where a teammate is single shotting, one-handing a big-ass locust smg like it's just no thang, like a 23rd century gangsta....
Wait a minute...I feel a song coming on.....
Spoilered for the long and the naughty...
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
A real specta’-ass nigga plays his cards right
A real specta’-ass nigga never runs his fuckin mouth
'cause real specta’-ass niggas don't start fights
And niggas always gotta heatsink
Showin' all his boys how he shot em
But real specta’-ass niggas don't flex nuts
'cause real specta’-ass niggas know they got em
And everythings cool in the mind of a specta’
'cause specta’-ass niggas think deep
Up three-sixty-five a year 24/7
'cause real specta’ ass niggas don't sleep
And all I gotta say to you
Wannabe, gonnabe, Krogansuckin', asari-eatin' prankstas
'cause when the Reapa dies down what the fuck you gonna do
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Feedin' the poor and helpin out wit they bills
Although I was born in da Colonies
Now I'm in the Terminus makin' deals
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
I mean one that you don't really know
Ridin' around town in a drop-top Mako
Hittin' switches in my black six-fo'
Now specta’-ass niggas come in all shapes and colors
Some got killed in the past
But this specta’ here is a smart one
Started living for the galaxy and I'll last
Now all I gotta say to you
Wannabe, gonnabe, Krogansuckin', asari-eatin' prankstas
When the Reapa jumps off what the fuck you gonna do
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
A real specta’-ass nigga knows the play
Real specta’-ass niggas get the flyest of the bitches
Ask that specta’-ass nigga little jake
Now bitches look at specta’-ass niggas like a stop sign
And play the role of little miss sweet
'cause specta’-ass niggas be the gang playas
And everythings quiet in the clique
A specta’-ass nigga pulls the trigger
And his batarians in the posse ain't tellin' off shit
Real specta’-ass niggas don't talk much
All ya hear is the black from the gun blast
And real specta’-ass niggas run fast as shit
'cause real specta’-ass niggas chase dat cash
Now when you in the free world talkin' shit do the shit
Hit the pen and let the batarians shank ya
But spectas like myself kick back and peep game
'cause damn it feels good to be a specta’
And now, a word from the alliance!
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Gettin voted into the council
Everything lookin good to the people of the galaxy
But the ‘Broker family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin' down
Like lettin' a big eezo shipment through
And send 'em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin' me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or I'll send a million troops to die at war
To all you batarians, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
'cause now I got the world swingin' from my nuts
And damn it feels good to be a specta’
for one. And that has me wondering...why do dude faces generally look better? Especially after playing DA2 and the female faces being pretty okay in that game. I've noticed that something is a bit...off...with the ME2 female faces.
I can't tell what though.
you just have to work harder to get a decent, well-proportioned female face.
that's my colonist/ruthless shepard.
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Actually, ME2 had many more shapes and color patterns. But you're right about the helmet toggle.
Joan Shepard is a Colonist/Ruthless background, suffer not the Batarian to live.
More permutations perhaps, but there were only like a couple choices per slot, none of which looked that different from the N7 set. And the full sets, which I never touched because, helmets look silly
Actually, ME2 had many more shapes and color patterns. But you're right about the helmet toggle.
Joan Shepard is a Colonist/Ruthless background, suffer not the Batarian to live.
More permutations perhaps, but there were only like a couple choices per slot, none of which looked that different from the N7 set. And the full sets, which I never touched because, helmets are silly
There were fewer choices in ME 1 though, almost every armor in each category was a simple palette swap or reskin. I find pieces like the Aegis chest piece or the Shield Gauntlets have much more diversity than any of the ME 1 armor away from the default.
Plus ME2 gave me the ability to wear visors and cool things in the head slot instead of the stupid helmet.
How are you defining choices though. Sure the models might be similar, but the bars with numbers were different...ish. And the 2 mod slots gave you way more customization that ME2's N7 mods, paid DLC nonwithstanding. The only real difference between the armor pieces are that one has like an extra clip (not that you'd really get to that clip anyway) and the other is like 20% cooler looking.
And I included the visors, especially the bug eyed one, as part of the looking silly statement. Even the garrus eyepiece one had really bad clipping with even standard hair.
I've played through ME2 twice on my Infiltrator, never once used the visor apart from the initial "what's this then?" 10 sec tryout. That shit looked atrocious.
How are you defining choices though. Sure the models might be similar, but the bars with numbers were different...ish. And the 2 mod slots gave you way more customization that ME2's N7 mods, paid DLC nonwithstanding. The only real difference between the armor pieces are that one has like an extra clip (not that you'd really get to that clip anyway) and the other is like 20% cooler looking.
And I included the visors, especially the bug eyed one, as part of the looking silly statement. Even the garrus eyepiece one had really bad clipping with even standard hair.
The numbers meant nothing because there was always a 'best' choice for what to wear that (almost) always had better stats across the board than anything else. At the very end of the game the stats in certain endgame armor were wildly different, but even then the Spectre stuff or the Collossus X was the way to go. And the armor mods were totally useless, you could literally throw any crap in there and never notice a difference in gameplay. Plus pretty much all of them looked stupid or had terrible color schemes. 50% cameo? Pink and White? Green Plates?
The guns, I'll grant, were better and more customizable. But you may want to check the armor again, it was terrible and I spent half the game looking like an idiot because the Scorpion IV armor you pick up on Eden Prime had higher stats than anything I got for a long ass time. In Mass Effect 2 I can have a consistent color scheme from the beginning, and I think you're underestimating how much some of those minor bonuses stack and impact combat. If I get rid of my shield gauntlets, I can feel the difference pretty clearly.
Also, I never had a clipping problem with any of the visors. My Shepard looked pretty awesome with all of them, and it still wasn't as stupid as the N7 helmet.
I miss the ME1 N7 armor, I think it looks better than the ME2 version.
Also, I must echo the sentiment that all of the visors in ME2 are ugly as sin. In fact, the main reason I haven't bought any of the appearance packs, is because of Bioware's idiotic decision to equip just about every alternate outfit with stupid fucking visors.
I'd love to see a challenge let's play of Pheonix I on Insanity, main story missions only.
Could it even be done without immunity?
If you were an Adept, and brought a combination of Liara/Kaiden (most places) or Garrus/Ashley (When you fight those goddamn rocket turrets) it wouldn't even be that hard. Lift and Singularity are ridiculous in conjunction with barrier, about the only things you'd really need to worry about are things like the one-shot rockets.
I hated the armor in Mass Effect one. I love the default N7 armor in 2. It looks like a futuristic football suit. It has a great silhouette. It's just like, I can believe Shepard killing all those people and not breaking a sweat wearing that thing. It looks like something you could get shot in and not even flinch.
Ugh, I don't want to think about all the stupid variegated shit my rainbow squad was decked out in. Bright yellow on my left, red and black on my right, forest camo in center. At least when I want to go pastel in ME2, it's a stylistic choice.
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Really, I don't see the complaint.
A couple of Renegade points isn't going to kill you.
Heck, I'd complain if it wasn't renegade.
It's a rapid action, so it's an interrupt.
It's killing someone, so it's renegade.
If things are being banned from being renegade just because they make sense, than killing the Rachni queen is neutral. We all know what they did, they present a clear risk. Genophage? Paragon. It's much nicer than extermination.
It would restrict renegade to being a giant dick for no reason.
Why I fear the ocean.
That's like complaining when cops kill a suspect instead of shooting the gun out of their hand.
If you have military training, if someone goes for a gun, you shoot them. It doesn't matter if you're wearing a bullet proof vest or not. Just ask Jenkins how well his shields held up.
When testing armor, they simulate interactions with journalists. It's rumored that the dummies used when testing that particular design were completely obliterated.
Fo' realz
Randy Shepard (who coincidentaly looks like a cross between Jason Statham and Randy Couture) was uber paragon, but did most of the renegade interrupts (Asari merc, merc out the window, Krogan BBQ etc) and by the end Paragon was almost completely full, while renegade barely registered a blip.
It deserved to be shot.
Sillies.
A full automatic SMG
Must have needed to pop the heatsink.
I don't think I'll be disapointed.
I think that's another case of the game when it switches to cutscenes about how it can't seem to decide which weapons people are using.
Kinda how like if you get the firepower pack, people randomly start swapping between the Phalanx pistol and the Default Pistol in cutscenes, and then the regular SMG and the Locust SMG as well.
It's actually kinda hilarious to see a scene where a teammate is single shotting, one-handing a big-ass locust smg like it's just no thang, like a 23rd century gangsta....
Wait a minute...I feel a song coming on.....
Spoilered for the long and the naughty...
A real specta’-ass nigga plays his cards right
A real specta’-ass nigga never runs his fuckin mouth
'cause real specta’-ass niggas don't start fights
And niggas always gotta heatsink
Showin' all his boys how he shot em
But real specta’-ass niggas don't flex nuts
'cause real specta’-ass niggas know they got em
And everythings cool in the mind of a specta’
'cause specta’-ass niggas think deep
Up three-sixty-five a year 24/7
'cause real specta’ ass niggas don't sleep
And all I gotta say to you
Wannabe, gonnabe, Krogansuckin', asari-eatin' prankstas
'cause when the Reapa dies down what the fuck you gonna do
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Feedin' the poor and helpin out wit they bills
Although I was born in da Colonies
Now I'm in the Terminus makin' deals
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
I mean one that you don't really know
Ridin' around town in a drop-top Mako
Hittin' switches in my black six-fo'
Now specta’-ass niggas come in all shapes and colors
Some got killed in the past
But this specta’ here is a smart one
Started living for the galaxy and I'll last
Now all I gotta say to you
Wannabe, gonnabe, Krogansuckin', asari-eatin' prankstas
When the Reapa jumps off what the fuck you gonna do
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
A real specta’-ass nigga knows the play
Real specta’-ass niggas get the flyest of the bitches
Ask that specta’-ass nigga little jake
Now bitches look at specta’-ass niggas like a stop sign
And play the role of little miss sweet
'cause specta’-ass niggas be the gang playas
And everythings quiet in the clique
A specta’-ass nigga pulls the trigger
And his batarians in the posse ain't tellin' off shit
Real specta’-ass niggas don't talk much
All ya hear is the black from the gun blast
And real specta’-ass niggas run fast as shit
'cause real specta’-ass niggas chase dat cash
Now when you in the free world talkin' shit do the shit
Hit the pen and let the batarians shank ya
But spectas like myself kick back and peep game
'cause damn it feels good to be a specta’
And now, a word from the alliance!
Damn it feels good to be a specta’
Gettin voted into the council
Everything lookin good to the people of the galaxy
But the ‘Broker family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin' down
Like lettin' a big eezo shipment through
And send 'em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin' me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or I'll send a million troops to die at war
To all you batarians, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
'cause now I got the world swingin' from my nuts
And damn it feels good to be a specta’
Wud yoo laek to lern aboot meatz? Look here!
Yeah, looks like it'll be fun times.
Why are redheads the best renegades, anyway? It just seems a natural fit somehow.
Why I fear the ocean.
Joan Shepard is a Colonist/Ruthless background, suffer not the Batarian to live.
Agreed.
Of course, I get the most mileage from the visor, so that works out.
How many designs were there in game one. Six?
Why I fear the ocean.
you just have to work harder to get a decent, well-proportioned female face.
that's my colonist/ruthless shepard.
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More permutations perhaps, but there were only like a couple choices per slot, none of which looked that different from the N7 set. And the full sets, which I never touched because, helmets look silly
There were fewer choices in ME 1 though, almost every armor in each category was a simple palette swap or reskin. I find pieces like the Aegis chest piece or the Shield Gauntlets have much more diversity than any of the ME 1 armor away from the default.
Plus ME2 gave me the ability to wear visors and cool things in the head slot instead of the stupid helmet.
And I included the visors, especially the bug eyed one, as part of the looking silly statement. Even the garrus eyepiece one had really bad clipping with even standard hair.
The numbers meant nothing because there was always a 'best' choice for what to wear that (almost) always had better stats across the board than anything else. At the very end of the game the stats in certain endgame armor were wildly different, but even then the Spectre stuff or the Collossus X was the way to go. And the armor mods were totally useless, you could literally throw any crap in there and never notice a difference in gameplay. Plus pretty much all of them looked stupid or had terrible color schemes. 50% cameo? Pink and White? Green Plates?
The guns, I'll grant, were better and more customizable. But you may want to check the armor again, it was terrible and I spent half the game looking like an idiot because the Scorpion IV armor you pick up on Eden Prime had higher stats than anything I got for a long ass time. In Mass Effect 2 I can have a consistent color scheme from the beginning, and I think you're underestimating how much some of those minor bonuses stack and impact combat. If I get rid of my shield gauntlets, I can feel the difference pretty clearly.
Also, I never had a clipping problem with any of the visors. My Shepard looked pretty awesome with all of them, and it still wasn't as stupid as the N7 helmet.
Also, I must echo the sentiment that all of the visors in ME2 are ugly as sin. In fact, the main reason I haven't bought any of the appearance packs, is because of Bioware's idiotic decision to equip just about every alternate outfit with stupid fucking visors.
"It's fine if the aesthetics are bad as long as the combat's broken!"
Why I fear the ocean.
Could it even be done without immunity?
If you were an Adept, and brought a combination of Liara/Kaiden (most places) or Garrus/Ashley (When you fight those goddamn rocket turrets) it wouldn't even be that hard. Lift and Singularity are ridiculous in conjunction with barrier, about the only things you'd really need to worry about are things like the one-shot rockets.
I demand alpine forest camo in my space operas!
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
At least the human ones, alien ones were cool.
Not to mention I like the sleaker ME2 look compared to the bulkier ME1 one. I could see why people would like that though.
But the paterns were so awesome!
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You would show one of the worst armors.
*Is ashamed because even with how bad it looked he still had his entire team decked out in it because of DEM STATS.
The siren call of Colossus armor is hard to resist indeed