[PATV] Penny Arcade: The Series, Bungie Rematch Pt. 1 [Soda Preservatives]

fjafjan

Robert Khoo wrote: »

The 1-7 has to be your best to worst - doing otherwise is called stacking the roster and it isn't allowed.

It's called padding and it's illegal.

But for example it seems to me Jerry is a noticeably worse player than Erika. Of course I havn't seen them play that much, but her fundamentals seem far stronger. But of course she is further down the roster and before a tournament there might be incentive to try and not climb too high for the good of the team. Would it not be better to try and design a tournament system where a few close losses can be better one tight win and (a few - 1) massive losses. So for example give point by the number of sets lost/won, or some function of the margins in the games.

Oh and if I can complain about one major thing that bugs me about the table tennis, it's the pretty terrile table tennis ettiquette. Notably, when you get a lucky shot like an edge or a net over shot, you lift your hand or finger as to apologize, trying not to be too overtly happy about winning the point. Rather it seems people cheer more when someone win by what is essentially chance. Pretty unsporting...

Xehalus

BLAAAAAAAAAAAM

Grey Ghost

This music was fucking awesome

BlueBlue

fjafjan wrote: »

Pretty unsporting...

Didn't you suggest gaming the lineup to gain an advantage over the other team

Fyndir

SabreMau wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

The 1-7 has to be your best to worst - doing otherwise is called stacking the roster and it isn't allowed.

It's called padding, and that's a paddlin'.

Just quotin' this to appreciate the hell out of it.

A+++, Sabre. :^:

Houk

BlueBlue wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

Pretty unsporting...

Didn't you suggest gaming the lineup to gain an advantage over the other team

Yeah I don't think the guy who advocates stacking your roster gets to talk about sportsmanship.

Robert Khoo

fjafjan wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

The 1-7 has to be your best to worst - doing otherwise is called stacking the roster and it isn't allowed.

It's called padding and it's illegal.

But for example it seems to me Jerry is a noticeably worse player than Erika. Of course I havn't seen them play that much, but her fundamentals seem far stronger. But of course she is further down the roster and before a tournament there might be incentive to try and not climb too high for the good of the team. Would it not be better to try and design a tournament system where a few close losses can be better one tight win and (a few - 1) massive losses. So for example give point by the number of sets lost/won, or some function of the margins in the games.

Oh and if I can complain about one major thing that bugs me about the table tennis, it's the pretty terrile table tennis ettiquette. Notably, when you get a lucky shot like an edge or a net over shot, you lift your hand or finger as to apologize, trying not to be too overtly happy about winning the point. Rather it seems people cheer more when someone win by what is essentially chance. Pretty unsporting...

You are wrong about Jerry and Erika. Jerry is more consistent (right now). We don't try and game the system because we are not cheater faces.

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

Xehalus

Point.

Set.

Match.

Houk

Robert Khoo wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

The 1-7 has to be your best to worst - doing otherwise is called stacking the roster and it isn't allowed.

It's called padding and it's illegal.

But for example it seems to me Jerry is a noticeably worse player than Erika. Of course I havn't seen them play that much, but her fundamentals seem far stronger. But of course she is further down the roster and before a tournament there might be incentive to try and not climb too high for the good of the team. Would it not be better to try and design a tournament system where a few close losses can be better one tight win and (a few - 1) massive losses. So for example give point by the number of sets lost/won, or some function of the margins in the games.

Oh and if I can complain about one major thing that bugs me about the table tennis, it's the pretty terrile table tennis ettiquette. Notably, when you get a lucky shot like an edge or a net over shot, you lift your hand or finger as to apologize, trying not to be too overtly happy about winning the point. Rather it seems people cheer more when someone win by what is essentially chance. Pretty unsporting...

You are wrong about Jerry and Erika. Jerry is more consistent (right now). We don't try and game the system because we are not cheater faces.

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

Are you saying that a 10-minute video edited for maximum emotional impact isn't an accurate reflection of reality?

That, my friend, is bullshit

Tonkka

Bullshit.

It surrounds us.

Houk

Tonkka wrote: »

Bullshit.

It surrounds us.

You know what's bullshit?

Sharks over Wings.

Again

That is bullshit

I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up

Robert Khoo wrote: »

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

I hope you do it in the smarmiest way possible. Slip the ol monacle on and be like "my good sir, I couldn't possibly accept a point under these conditions" followed by 5 minutes of trying to decide who would have the point.

I'd watch that pa tv

Aphostile

Houk wrote: »

Tonkka wrote: »

Bullshit.

It surrounds us.

You know what's bullshit?

Sharks over Wings.

Again

That is bullshit

Nope!

Fyndir

I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

I hope you do it in the smarmiest way possible. Slip the ol monacle on and be like "my good sir, I couldn't possibly accept a point under these conditions" followed by 5 minutes of trying to decide who would have the point.

I'd watch that pa tv

Next time on PA TV with Kurtz and Straub...

Houk

Aphostile wrote: »

Houk wrote: »

Tonkka wrote: »

Bullshit.

It surrounds us.

You know what's bullshit?

Sharks over Wings.

Again

That is bullshit

Nope!

I wouldn't mind if there was like...any chance whatsoever of them winning the cup

I don't mind losing to the team that goes on to win the cup

But losing to the team that consistently shits the bed later on?

Shit's just embarrassing

Tonkka

Hey guys.

Let us not not bleed a thread in to the other.

We should just all say GO CANUCKS and agree.

Xehalus

Sharks or Canucks need to get their first Stanley Cup.

Tonkka

Xehalus wrote: »

Canucks need to get their first Stanley Cup.

fjafjan

Robert Khoo wrote: »

You are wrong about Jerry and Erika. Jerry is more consistent (right now). We don't try and game the system because we are not cheater faces.

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

I wasn't saying you should game the system, I was pointing out a flaw in the system (the order of the roster is maintained by 'honour' rather than desire to win) and proposing solutions that might fix that flaw.

As for the complaining, I most likely did (but with the search function down I can't confirm), though honestly I am kind of surprised there are no other ex table tennis players here who are bugged by it as well. So if you want to take your level of etiquette higher than "not cheating" I'd suggest you start lifting them fingers.

Tonkka

fjafjan wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

You are wrong about Jerry and Erika. Jerry is more consistent (right now). We don't try and game the system because we are not cheater faces.

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

I wasn't saying you should game the system, I was pointing out a flaw in the system (the order of the roster is maintained by 'honour' rather than desire to win) and proposing solutions that might fix that flaw.

As for the complaining, I most likely did (but with the search function down I can't confirm), though honestly I am kind of surprised there are no other ex table tennis players here who are bugged by it as well. So if you want to take your level of etiquette higher than "not cheating" I'd suggest you start lifting them fingers.

Yep, I think that is how you win honorably.

Winning with honor.

Otherwise known as winning by the rules.

fjafjan

Tonkka wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

I wasn't saying you should game the system, I was pointing out a flaw in the system (the order of the roster is maintained by 'honour' rather than desire to win) and proposing solutions that might fix that flaw.

Yep, I think that is how you win honorably.

Winning with honor.

Otherwise known as winning by the rules.

I am saying this rule is essentially an honour rule. I mean since it's an amateur league it shouldn't be a big problem, but any honour rule is vulnerable to abuse.

KalTorak

Ping-pong players are a superstitious and cowardly lot...

MichaelLC

Robert Khoo wrote: »

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

He was indeed.

fjafjan on 2/12/11 wrote:

Plus they had really bad manners in terms of not admitting their luck when hitting the side of the table or having balls roll over the net.

Do you guys find it's more of a upper- or lower-body workout? Or does it pretty much work you over completely?

SoaL

fjafjan wrote: »

Tonkka wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

I wasn't saying you should game the system, I was pointing out a flaw in the system (the order of the roster is maintained by 'honour' rather than desire to win) and proposing solutions that might fix that flaw.

Yep, I think that is how you win honorably.

Winning with honor.

Otherwise known as winning by the rules.

I am saying this rule is essentially an honour rule. I mean since it's an amateur league it shouldn't be a big problem, but any honour rule is vulnerable to abuse.

vulnerable to abuse by people who want to break the rules sure

but who the fuck cares about those people since they would be no fun to play against?

KalTorak

MichaelLC wrote: »

Robert Khoo wrote: »

And as far as the etiquette bit - are you the guy that complained about it during the screenlife episode? If you are, we frequently reference you in our matches.

You know what is poor etiquette though? Trying to intentionally stack your team.

He was indeed.

fjafjan on 2/12/11 wrote:

Plus they had really bad manners in terms of not admitting their luck when hitting the side of the table or having balls roll over the net.

Do you guys find it's more of a upper- or lower-body workout? Or does it pretty much work you over completely?

I wonder if he thinks the ping pong episodes are shown unedited in real time. I.e. "I don't see the sportsmanship I want to in this trimmed down ping-pong montage, therefore IT CAN'T HAVE TAKEN PLACE! I'm pretty sure the winners peed in the losers' mouths after each match!"

Falx

Teabagging. It's not just for Halo anymore.

Tofystedeth

You pretty much have to corpsehump the Bungie guys. It's mandatory. You know they'd just do it to you while fist bumping their bros.

Jordanthehutt

Just wanted to say that I also thought the music was really spot on with this one. Normally, I don't notice the music too much but whatever he did this episode, excellent man.

BlueBlue

Houk wrote: »

Are you saying that a 10-minute video edited for maximum emotional impact isn't an accurate reflection of reality?

That, my friend, is bullshit

I'm beginning to suspect that Jerry's opponent, the ping pong golem, may have actually moved at some point during their 5 games.

Tleilaxu

BlueBlue wrote: »

Houk wrote: »

Are you saying that a 10-minute video edited for maximum emotional impact isn't an accurate reflection of reality?

That, my friend, is bullshit

I'm beginning to suspect that Jerry's opponent, the ping pong angel, may have actually moved at some point during their 5 games.

Only when he wasn't looking.

QuestionMarkMan

fjafjan wrote: »

Am I the only one bugged by their bad technique? They keep backing off way too far from the table, they lay some really high fucking balls just tempting people to smash the shit out of them and the last guy kept doing a serve that was actually illegal. I feel that with a week or two of practice (since I havn't played table tennis in a few years) I could beat everyone on there, except possibly Khoo. Probably my arrogance talking though.

Plus they had really bad manners in terms of not admitting their luck when hitting the side of the table or having balls roll over the net.

Robert Khoo

ohhhhh, he was the same guy that was saying we shouldn't back off the table... hahah, alright.

faits

look he has seen a lot of pings and pongs in his day

and he can tell when you are doing it wrong

KalTorak

Robert you're obviously just jealous that a guy on the internet can beat your whole team at ping-pong.

faits

well, only if he practiced for a couple weeks

Tonkka

Geez guys, it's not cheating unless you get caught.

I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up

fjafjan wrote: »

So if you want to take your level of etiquette higher than "not cheating" I'd suggest you start lifting them fingers.

I'm lifting a finger right now actually.

Houk

I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

So if you want to take your level of etiquette higher than "not cheating" I'd suggest you start lifting them fingers.

I'm lifting a finger right now actually.

Perfect

faits

I don't think that's the right finger

god stop trying to do etiquette you are just so bad at it

101

I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up wrote: »

fjafjan wrote: »

So if you want to take your level of etiquette higher than "not cheating" I'd suggest you start lifting them fingers.

I'm lifting a finger right now actually.

:^:

this is a good post