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The Salty [Phalla]: Curse of the Crusty Pearls - VILLAGE VICTORY
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I'm either the best liar or the worst one.
For the silver split I got to learn about a couple deals.
For the Q&A I got to pick a question and get the most popular answer for it.
For the crew distribution thing I got 110 men instead of 100.
That was it, though; I got no advantage (that I was informed of) for the other events. But had I been meaningfully gunning for the captain's hat, some of this might've helped!
Were you a serial killer monkey from the beginning or did you get converted partway through?
(And to Infidel, was the serial killer role RNGed to a villager? A village special? Or to a random person entirely (VLADS)?)
Diorinix why didn't you tell me GtC got the monkey's paw and the rez message when I specifically asked for any messages related to the monkey paw to indicate something was up with the revive and win conditions?
No, I was a village-aligned monkey at the beginning, claiming to be a survival neutral, but working under the table with Diorinix.
When I used the rez wish from the Paw, I informed wildwood (after vote close) that I was the one resurrecting him, and that I was village-aligned.
As a result of using the rez wish, I became a Serial Killer.
...so you can see how I managed to confuse myself. It was tons of fun, actually.
Good game, Infidel and DrKippy. :^:
Geez, speaking of posting information to unconfirmeds...
Were people telling Alegis anything that early in the game?
To be perfectly honest, I didn't trust you enough to tell you that I'd passed the paw onto Gandalf. At that point, it was true - I did not receive a PM from our hosts regarding the rez. I didn't do the order with the paw, so why would I have?
I was semi protecting the neutral and holding some information back. I wasn't totally convinced that you were honest with your intentions, so I gave you the most objective information that I had access to.
Gandalf, wildwood, heffling and mojo all got more info from me than you. If they ended up in the network they could have filled in for me. My work got extremely busy over the weekend and I couldn't put the time into this game that I did over the first 3 or 4 days.
Mmmmm....toasty.
Yeah, I plead stupid.
Why hide the GtC thing from me then
...eventually
This game was tough for me. First time mafia ever. I felt myself not keeping up with everything going on. It really hurt me that I was out of town this past weekend with only an iPhone. I thought maybe I hid well toward late game but I kept figuring my cover was blown long before.
I'm interested to see just how bad my PLP was especially since I bet 20 for the last game. Haha
Hi, Buythrush:Leepwood here, pirate grader extraordinaire. You might know me from my reputation as the Never Evil Dread Pirate B:Loberts. I'm one of the most veteran pirates and the name that everyone should trust. Allow me to tell you of my tale...
*takes a swig of grog*
Ye see, this 'ere pirate has'nae been evil! NEVER EVIL in all'ere ventures cross ye seven seas, aye a feat t'has be seen te be believed, I tells ye.
*takes a swig of grog*
AVAST ye SWASHBUCKLIN' sons of dogs! May ye KIRBO eat yer skulls and suck yer bones dry fer not believin' ye GOLTANA KNIGHT! I SPIT IN YER EYE if ye'ver vote me hearty soul out y'n I SPIT ON YER GRAVE if yer dumb 'nuff te cross me path! ARRRR WHITE BEEL HOLY SPEEL
*takes a swig of grog*
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http://bollyloger.proboards.com/index.cgi
You can see the PLP and event info on it.
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Though on the other hand, grats to Infidel for making at least 30 people talk like a pirate for a week.
Yeah. Understandable. I sent in the orders to kill you two games in a row.
Besides, everyone was throwing us under the vote. Not just you.
Same here with the arm wrestling if I'm reading it right. Also yeah B:L was a tough grader
Poor Drez. He would have survived the mafia attack if he remembered to submit his swagger posts. Quite upsetting for us, since he had some of the funniest comments.
And the vote bonus roles actually could give you 0-3 votes total. So failing to submit your swagger posts (requirement to be graded) actually resulted in no votes on at least one occasion.
I think Mr. Mojo managed to nab a ninja by doing a good job posting as I recall, overcoming a possible villager loss / tie.
Oh! And the Captain's Hat, nobody really seemed to guess quite what it did.
Mechanically it was an extra vote, as well as a small boost to your swagger. So it did matter, and if the swagger folks had picked it up, it would have been a bit more useful. But still fun, which was its real goal. It was never intended to be a serious impact on the game. Just a small reward for the ongoing minigames.
And since there was some confusion on that point as well, the captains hat went to the player with the highest PLP cumulative. It actually bounced around a fair bit. I think we (at least I) expected it to settle down a bit more, but it only really did that at the end.
The swagger mechanic was Infidels idea, and I probably did most of the specific role creation once the swagger idea took off.
I think it worked well enough, though at some points it felt like only the vigilantes were really pushing to swagger it up. We wanted the other roles to draw attention as well, and specifically the Crusty Chum to draw fire from the mafia, who we assumed would think they were also vig's. The day of epic reveals kind of took some steam out of the confusion we hoped to create there, but all in all, I think the overall effect was pretty darned good.
And out of whose hat were they pulling those names from
that be right
My point being lazy terrible villagening should not be allowed and punished by death. Reward get!
If only I had composed some piratey poem for Infidel or something I might have won captainship!
Ah well, I was busy all day network heading/pulling hairbrained theories about who the SK might be, so I *guess* I was doing my job, and first mate isn't a bad consolation prize.
Your attributions for the kills were quite off though, considering you were so close when you were telling me how the kills changed after the rez. (They started not changed, you were looking too hard for an SK that didn't exist yet!)
It would be silly to discount that considering my game a month ago had a turn-SK mechanic that you knew about plenty well.
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Vindication!
Now give me my darn crackers.
To be fair I didn't press wildwood for his actual convos with Gandalf and he probably would have given me them if I had, but I foolishly assumed that you would let your fellow network buddies know about your conversations with a survival neutral in better detail
I didn't even get told it was Gandalf that did the rezzing until a couple days ago, before then Alegis was telling me Diorinix did it.
(On that note diorinix, unless you are 100% positive someone is a mafia, don't lie to them if you don't trust them, just refuse to answer. Even if you know they're mafia you don't want to lie more than you absolutely have to).
I'm still curious, though. Why didn't the mafia just murderize the "out in the open" specials?
Because there were village-only decoys that their openness blocked the mafia kill, making it more of a hunt and having them think the obvious targets would be guarded, true or not.
Also, as intended, others without any Swagger mechanic or knowledge of were posting appropriately as well, the idea was to seed it so that a lot of people would.
Systematically going "hey lets kill only the loudmouths" means you pretty much are guaranteed to never hit the seer, who had no Swagger mechanic.
edit: the biggest hit to the village specials was due to typical village fail of "hey lets epic reveal four specials instead of just trying to deflect a vote and reveal none/one."
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Which was partly driven by the (apparently common) village tendency to vote out loudmouths. Or maybe it's just me.
It doesn't matter how it starts, just that it's usually a bad idea to keep outing more and more people.
It's the village equivalent of trying to save a mafia buddy from a vote and getting half your team caught. Don't fucking do it!
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So after the first reveal, try to deflect the vote, but take the loss if the vote still goes for a special?
It's much easier to see the value when you parallel it with the mafia situation like I mentioned.
Better to throw one of your own under the bus than compromise several in the long run.
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This game was actually designed with the idea of forcing the village to think. You might notice after the fact that there was essentially nothing safe/guaranteed to form a proper network around.
The thrall/millers are an obvious piece of that, but furthermore none of the villager roles were really guaranteed / tied to the specific villager.
The seer was just an item (which could have ended in the mafia's hands i should note).
The vig's didn't know if their kill would go off or not (though after a while, wildwood had enough confidence to deem it worthy to call his kill).
Even wildwoods resurrection was somewhat intentionally clouded, since anyone paying close attention would realize it coincided with the birth of the serial killer.
One thing I didn't get to see, because I assume it was handled with PM's... how was the receiving end of the crystal ball handled? It was mentioned early, and then nobody mentioned it again. Even when Phyphor was seered, there was a lot less mafia chatter and repercussions there than I expected.
The items were fun, but I sort of expected to see them moving more. At least the coin. I suppose nobody really figured it out since it never came into play. It could have been a fun village weapon if you knew what it did
Yeah, Roman's reveal made sense with the action order, because changing from a vote to a kill gave him a chance to pass on the crystal ball to someone else. But I could have taken the vote and let Egos continue with the vigging.
From what I heard, there was a small seer network that the ball was passed through, after the Phyphor seering. They had a pass phrase to communicate targets back to me. I assume they only used verified villagers to do the seering.
I got the coin off of godmode, and I got rid of it as soon as I possibly could. Something about "feeling your life drain away" in the description that made me want to ditch it, but I don't remember anything else in the description that would have led me to believe that it could influence the vote.
Stoutsparrow dont like bein watched!
Welcome to a very exclusive club
You can see my whole convo with phyphor in the village proboards funny thread.
Mostly I sent people PMs when they were about to be seered by me or later fidoh, just so they wouldn't do what Alegis did. Essentially "don't talk about the host PM you are about to receive in thread, let us talk to you first." I didn't mention Fidoh's name, which was good when captainplanet posted his PM from me in his mafia proboard and then got promptly strangled by a monkey.
That was some quality voting by the village the past 3ish days.
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