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Super Summer Slugfest Slamdown: Movies & More!

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    The best comic book movie I've ever seen. The (tiny expected spoiler)
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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    So now that you've seen Avengers, do you think any comic book movie will ever measure up? You've been eternally spoiled?

    Whedon said he had things planned as a trilogy, so it'll be interesting to see how he tops the first movie.

    Unless of course, he's called in to do the next Star Wars trilogy, like CBR is advocating. But fortunately, I think Whdeon is a Marvel-ite at heart.

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    So now that you've seen Avengers, do you think any comic book movie will ever measure up? You've been eternally spoiled?

    Whedon said he had things planned as a trilogy, so it'll be interesting to see how he tops the first movie.

    Unless of course, he's called in to do the next Star Wars trilogy, like CBR is advocating. But fortunately, I think Whdeon is a Marvel-ite at heart.

    Yes, the movie definitely had low points. He said in a recent interview that if he were to do a sequel, it would be a bit more intimate and personal, which is something I think the sequel needs to be.

    They need to do another hulk movie first though...

  • ryvenryven Registered User regular
    it was a good fun movie :) i want to see another hulk movie with ruffalo now, i liked him the best of the 3 hulks

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    So now that you've seen Avengers, do you think any comic book movie will ever measure up? You've been eternally spoiled?

    Dark Knight Rises. Amazing Spider-man looks good, too.
    Whedon said he had things planned as a trilogy, so it'll be interesting to see how he tops the first movie.

    Excellent.
    Unless of course, he's called in to do the next Star Wars trilogy, like CBR is advocating. But fortunately, I think Whdeon is a Marvel-ite at heart.

    That's not going to happen any time soon. Lucas won't let any director touch his precious Star Wars.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited May 2012

    That's not going to happen any time soon. Lucas won't let any director touch his precious Star Wars.

    damn all your statement does is remind me of the three director's Lucas had in mind for the prequels till Spielberg convinced him to self-direct and it just makes me sad thinking about what could have been.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2012

    That's not going to happen any time soon. Lucas won't let any director touch his precious Star Wars.

    damn all your statement does is remind me of the three director's Lucas had in mind for the prequels till Spielberg convinced him to self-direct and it just makes me sad thinking about what could have been.

    Well, the directors can do only so much even in that situation. They'd just shoot it better, they don't control the screenplays by Lucas. That's why they'd need better screenwriters or good director-writers (like Whedon or Jackson) to make the prequels succeed in quality.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    At the AMC Ultimate Marvel Movie Marathon, each movie was introduced by Clark Gregg in-character as Agent Coulson briefing the audience as new SHIELD members. It was fantastic.

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla The Year 198X Being Xtreme to the MaxxRegistered User regular
    Fuck

    that is really awesome

    I went to the Cinemark one instead which had no such intro

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus I didn't want to wake you up but I really want to show you somethingRegistered User regular
    Man, why aren't there any AMC theaters in Oregon??

  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    I had to drive about 3 hours to find an AMC theater. Worth it. Also got an Avengers: Ultron Quest comic book by Van Lente, the custom Avengers 3D glasses (I picked the Captain America ones) and a 2nd pair of regular 3D glasses, so you can leave the Avengers ones in the packaging. They had Avengers trivia, games, and a costume contest between the movies, giving out all sorts of merchandise as prizes. But the best part was the Agent Coulson clips.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Man, why aren't there any AMC theaters in Oregon??

    They can't clone Clark Gregg Agent Coulson.

  • herojoeherojoe IndianapolisRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Spoiler:

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    herojoe wrote: »
    Spoiler:
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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    They need to make a "Chapter I" boxset with the Avengers and all the movies leading up to it...and include those snippets.

  • herojoeherojoe IndianapolisRegistered User regular
    herojoe wrote: »
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    I definitely think that is the case.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    herojoe wrote: »
    herojoe wrote: »
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    I definitely think that is the case.

    I would be so happy if this was true. And it works with what was in the movie -
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  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    New Avengers cartoon confirmed for 2013
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/04/30/marvels-five-year-plan-for-the-avengers-to-rescue-the-movies/

    :(.

    Looks like it's going to be based on the cinematic universe, so thats alright though.

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    New Avengers cartoon confirmed for 2013
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/04/30/marvels-five-year-plan-for-the-avengers-to-rescue-the-movies/

    :(.

    Looks like it's going to be based on the cinematic universe, so thats alright though.

    What does this mean for EMH...

  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    Guek wrote: »
    New Avengers cartoon confirmed for 2013
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/04/30/marvels-five-year-plan-for-the-avengers-to-rescue-the-movies/

    :(.

    Looks like it's going to be based on the cinematic universe, so thats alright though.

    What does this mean for EMH...

    It means it'll finish the 26 episodes of s2, and then be replaced by this new one

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    Guek wrote: »
    New Avengers cartoon confirmed for 2013
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/04/30/marvels-five-year-plan-for-the-avengers-to-rescue-the-movies/

    :(.

    Looks like it's going to be based on the cinematic universe, so thats alright though.

    What does this mean for EMH...

    It means it'll finish the 26 episodes of s2, and then be replaced by this new one

    Fuckin aye...that really sucks. EMH is my second favorite animated show at the moment behind Adventure Time...

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Was it Kierkegaard or Dick Van Patten who said, Registered User regular
    I saw an article from Loeb in CBR a bit back where Loeb basically says EMH wouldn't stay around because it was developed before he took over the animation department. Which is just petty. I mean it's done all the time in TV but that seemed like a show that both old and young enjoyed and created another world to have toys and merchandise come from instead of the movie verse. Compared to Ultimate Spider-Man, which seems to really have a split among fans and would be Loeb's first big move as head of TV (the timeline syncs up), it just seems like an odd choice. It's not that confusing, and I hope Young Justice doesn't get a similar treatment for whatever reason to sync up with the DCnU.


    Got to see Avengers midday today, lucked out on a not packed screening. I would say it's a solid "good," 7/10, although a few minor tweaks and it would have been great. Everything behind spoilers
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    I would say Iron Man 1 and Cap are better Marvel films in terms of whole packages, the effects guys on this film should be the premier ones for the industry right now. It's a good film, no mistake, and they should easily fast track an Avengers 2 (though with the same people, don't cheap out Marvel), it's just not up there with Iron Man and Dark Knight IMO. And outside of 10 minutes, it is paced rather well and definitely a good blockbuster film.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    So now that you've seen Avengers, do you think any comic book movie will ever measure up? You've been eternally spoiled?

    Whedon said he had things planned as a trilogy, so it'll be interesting to see how he tops the first movie.

    Unless of course, he's called in to do the next Star Wars trilogy, like CBR is advocating. But fortunately, I think Whdeon is a Marvel-ite at heart.

    I'm actually curious if Whedon will stick around. He's been pretty loud in interviews how he prefers doing his own thing, but more importantly than that, Marvel doesn't seem to have the best track record of keeping directors(or even actors) happy.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Guek wrote: »
    New Avengers cartoon confirmed for 2013
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/04/30/marvels-five-year-plan-for-the-avengers-to-rescue-the-movies/

    :(.

    Looks like it's going to be based on the cinematic universe, so thats alright though.

    What does this mean for EMH...

    It means it'll finish the 26 episodes of s2, and then be replaced by this new one

    It gets worse. There was an article (possibly in this thread a few pages back) where Loeb admits to fucking with the second half of season 2. He may have severely damaged or overruled continuing the season's story line. :evil:

    Texiken:

    Iron Man has gotten new armors every few years in the comics. 7 armors is a fraction of that, easily. In fact, he just got a new armor recently. Stark changes armor like ordinary people change clothes.
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    I don't get why you're still angry about Superman dropped the "American Way" motto in Superman Returns. Why keep it if it just alienates non-Americans and is just a motto that rarely gets used or effects Superman at all? He'll still protect America and the world without it. Returns had far bigger flaws.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Was it Kierkegaard or Dick Van Patten who said, Registered User regular
    I don't get why you're still angry about Superman dropped the "American Way" motto in Superman Returns. Why keep it if it just alienates non-Americans and is just a motto that rarely gets used or effects Superman at all? He'll still protect America and the world without it. The film had far bigger flaws.

    I don't mean that movie specifically; It's not just in the movie, it's the general way they've just pushed it out of the motto in everything as though we wouldn't notice. It's just needlessly picking at a character's past when they should focus on the future. I wouldn't care if Captain Britain had a british motto, it's part of who they are (or GI Joe for that matter). For instance Superman vs. the Elite, it looks likes it's going to be pretty much a remake of Action #775, so just call it "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" They did it for Batman Year One, and All-Star Superman, keep it going. It's a great title and much more grabbing than Superman vs. _______. People around the world aren't going to bootleg your movie even more if you have that title.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    noir_blood wrote: »
    I'm actually curious if Whedon will stick around. He's been pretty loud in interviews how he prefers doing his own thing, but more importantly than that, Marvel doesn't seem to have the best track record of keeping directors(or even actors) happy.

    That would be like shooting themselves in the head.

    But this is Marvel. :/

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla The Year 198X Being Xtreme to the MaxxRegistered User regular
    and Marvel's track record is fine

    the only dude they pissed off was Favreau and he is still friendly with the company, what with being a Producer on Avengers and showing up on set a few times

    Norton was being a prima-donna and wanted to make his own editing decisions on IncHulk which is dumb and they didn't ask him to come back for Avengers because they needed a cast that would put the ensemble first

    and Howard was asking for a hilariously oversized paycheck, especially considering he was the highest paid person in Iron Man 1

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    What about Branaugh?

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I don't get why you're still angry about Superman dropped the "American Way" motto in Superman Returns. Why keep it if it just alienates non-Americans and is just a motto that rarely gets used or effects Superman at all? He'll still protect America and the world without it. The film had far bigger flaws.

    I don't mean that movie specifically; It's not just in the movie, it's the general way they've just pushed it out of the motto in everything as though we wouldn't notice. It's just needlessly picking at a character's past when they should focus on the future. I wouldn't care if Captain Britain had a british motto, it's part of who they are (or GI Joe for that matter).

    It's a quote that's rarely used. In fact, from the all the media and comics I've read about Superman I don't think I've seen it used once and I've collected and watched a lot of Superman material. The scene is also very minor and quick. No-one would miss it or notice anything amiss had they deleted it from the film. G.I. Joe being a multi-national task force makes sense to me then a purely American one. It's virtually a SHIELD expy anyway. It's also nice to see other main characters not be American for once, though the protagonists were still mainly from America IIRC (Duke, Scarlett, Riptide). Nor is it a bad idea to include characters that make selling to foreign markets easier.
    For instance Superman vs. the Elite, it looks likes it's going to be pretty much a remake of Action #775, so just call it "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" They did it for Batman Year One, and All-Star Superman, keep it going. It's a great title and much more grabbing than Superman vs. _______. People around the world aren't going to bootleg your movie even more if you have that title.

    That may be specifically to shorten the title. It not only helps with promotion, the new title fits better on dvd/bluray covers.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    and Marvel's track record is fine

    the only dude they pissed off was Favreau and he is still friendly with the company, what with being a Producer on Avengers and showing up on set a few times

    Norton was being a prima-donna and wanted to make his own editing decisions on IncHulk which is dumb and they didn't ask him to come back for Avengers because they needed a cast that would put the ensemble first

    and Howard was asking for a hilariously oversized paycheck, especially considering he was the highest paid person in Iron Man 1

    Unfortunately he has a point. No director has stayed around with Marvel beyond one film, aside from Favreau (and he left after the Iron Man 2 debacle).

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla The Year 198X Being Xtreme to the MaxxRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    and Marvel's track record is fine

    the only dude they pissed off was Favreau and he is still friendly with the company, what with being a Producer on Avengers and showing up on set a few times

    Norton was being a prima-donna and wanted to make his own editing decisions on IncHulk which is dumb and they didn't ask him to come back for Avengers because they needed a cast that would put the ensemble first

    and Howard was asking for a hilariously oversized paycheck, especially considering he was the highest paid person in Iron Man 1

    Unfortunately he has a point. No director has stayed around with Marvel beyond one film, aside from Favreau (and he left after the Iron Man 2 debacle).
    But as far as we know that isn't because they are pissing them off

    sequels have different directors quite often

    Marvel could have just wanted to get someone else behind the camera for Thor and Cap 2

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla The Year 198X Being Xtreme to the MaxxRegistered User regular
    What about Branaugh?
    As far as I know, they never pissed him off. Dude is still an executive producer on Thor 2.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Was it Kierkegaard or Dick Van Patten who said, Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    I thought Favreau wanted 10 million for IM2 instead of 500k or something, that led to the rift with Marvel.
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I don't get why you're still angry about Superman dropped the "American Way" motto in Superman Returns. Why keep it if it just alienates non-Americans and is just a motto that rarely gets used or effects Superman at all? He'll still protect America and the world without it. The film had far bigger flaws.

    I don't mean that movie specifically; It's not just in the movie, it's the general way they've just pushed it out of the motto in everything as though we wouldn't notice. It's just needlessly picking at a character's past when they should focus on the future. I wouldn't care if Captain Britain had a british motto, it's part of who they are (or GI Joe for that matter).

    It's a quote that's rarely used. In fact, from the all the media and comics I've read about Superman I don't think I've seen it used once and I've collected and watched a lot of Superman material. The scene is also very minor and quick. No-one would miss it or notice anything amiss had they deleted it from the film. G.I. Joe being a multi-national task force makes sense to me then a purely American one. It's virtually a SHIELD expy anyway. It's also nice to see other main characters not be American for once, though the protagonists were still mainly from America IIRC (Duke, Scarlett, Riptide). Nor is it a bad idea to include characters that make selling to foreign markets easier.
    For instance Superman vs. the Elite, it looks likes it's going to be pretty much a remake of Action #775, so just call it "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" They did it for Batman Year One, and All-Star Superman, keep it going. It's a great title and much more grabbing than Superman vs. _______. People around the world aren't going to bootleg your movie even more if you have that title.

    That may be specifically to shorten the title. It not only helps with promotion, the new title fits better on dvd/bluray covers.

    I've never had a problem with wanting to expand the casts to be more international. I have a problem with trying to retcon or retrofit that into existing character history. You don't make Nick Fury french, for instance. Nothing against the French, you just don't do that to get the French market. I guess it just comes down to seeing "American Way" as a bad thing, and I don't.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    What about Branaugh?
    As far as I know, they never pissed him off. Dude is still an executive producer on Thor 2.

    I dunno. He's been really vague about why he won't direct again. That combined with Marvel having prior bad relations with cast members over money (the first Rhodey) and Fav leaving pissed off makes me wonder that Branaugh might feel the same way only he's polite enough to part on good terms. In public, anyway.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I've never had a problem with wanting to expand the casts to be more international. I have a problem with trying to retcon or retrofit that into existing character history. You don't make Nick Fury french, for instance. Nothing against the French, you just don't do that to get the French market. I guess it just comes down to seeing "American Way" as a bad thing, and I don't.

    They had to in order to avoid creating new characters altogether. Their nationalities aren't played up that much in Rise of Cobra, either. It just adds another layer to their personalities. It's not like this doesn't happen in other adaptions or even alternate universes in comics. Ultimate Janet van Dyne is Asian, which is cool. Marvel did alter Fury's ethnicity for the films*. Sure, he's visually based on the Ultimate version the character still acts like his 616 version. Close enough, anyway. It was a stroke of genius to cast Samuel L. Jackson in the role, we all get a good Fury with him.

    * along with the Ultimate Spider-man cartoon & Earth's Mightiest Heroes

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    What if...they give Loeb the reins for Avengers 2.....

    Hopefully Loeb is put away somewhere safe soon...the man's ideas are somewhat crap, and he probably doesn't know the first thing about management...

    And creatively...he just named Nova in Ultimate Spider-man after his dead son. I'm a father too, and losing my son would devastate me. But re-enacting his son through his comics, and now through his media is just too much. The man needs some time with a good psychiatrist and find a better way of dealing with his loss.

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  • MatriasMatrias Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Avengers is pretty much the first superhero film that did everything right, that realized a comicbook on the big screen. It felt right. Like, holy shit, I'm watching the Avengers! This is a real comic book!

    Iron Man came close, didn't quite reach it. and the Dark Knight films are all trying their hardest not to be superhero or comic films (nothing wrong with that, I just consider it a different sort of entertainment).

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    When Favreau made his pitch for Magic Kingdom at the D23 Expo, he said he wanted to do Iron Man 3 as well, but didn't have time for both projects, so he chose to do something new. That could have been him just being diplomatic, though, since he's still working for Disney either way.

  • Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    the only actor or director that Marvel has any real strained relationship with is Terrance Howard, and that's because he got greedy

    even Norton said he had been talking to Whedon and the execs and doesn't bear any grudges, it just didn't work out

    Favreau was upset that Iron Man 2 didn't turn out how he wanted it, but it didn't destroy his relationship with the company as money people have already pointed out. Branagh left amicably because he told the story he wanted to tell and isn't interested in a sequel, and Johnston is likely in a similar place, though it hasn't actually been confirmed yet that he isn't returning.

    if anything, Marvel allowing directors to leave when they want is a good thing

  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    My few quibbles about the avengers movie:
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