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Chapter 1: Factions
Chapter 2: Where to buy
Chapter 3: Where to talk about it (aside from here of course)
Chapter 4: Transports
Chapter 5: Painting services
Chapter 6: Hobby supplies
Appendix
What books should I read?


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Warhammer 40k is a futuristic tabletop strategy game created by GamesWorkshop that pits multiple races and factions against each other for control of the galaxy. The wiki article can be found here.
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[Chapter 1: Factions
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- The Dark Forces -
DaemonsLust, hate, despair, sorrow. All emotion has a reverberation within the warp, the worst, most bitterly felt, and the furtherest extreme becoming strong enough to persist, coalesce, and finally, become. It was from the darkest corners of the galaxy's hearts that Khorne - Lord Upon the Skullthrone, Tzeentch - The Changer of Ways, Nurgle - The Final Decay, and Slaneesh - The Feaster of Pain, sprang forth, and they await the time when the veil against the Warp wears thin, and their warriors, spawn, and offspring can pour through.

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- The Betrayer -
Chaos Marines At the very birth of the Imperium of Man, fully half of the Emperor's most trusted Legions turned against him in a bitter civil war. Brother fought brother, and Mankind drove itself to the very brink of extinction. Ten thousand years after their defeat, those same traitors still launch their Black Crusades from within the Eye of Terror, their dead hearts intent upon nothing less than the utter destruction of the Imperium and the death of its weakling Emperor.

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- The Hammer -
Grey Knights The Grey Knights are the most mysterious of all the Imperium's many organisations. Utterly incorruptible, they are armed with the best weapons and equipment that Mankind has to offer. Above all, they are humanity's last line of defense against the darkness of Chaos

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- The Dying -
Eldar An unimaginably ancient race who once ruled an empire spanning the galaxy. Then came the hideous time of the Fall, when the Eldar were consumed by their own decadence and nearly obliterated to the last, the few survivors scattered across the stars. Though the Eldar are few in number, they continue to be one of the most technologically advanced races in the galaxy. This advantage is combined with the prescient abilities of their Farseers, who scry the future and guide their kin along the most favorable paths of fate.

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- The Lost-
Dark Eldar These spawn of unquiet dreams inhabit a realm called Commorragh, a place as darkly twisted as its rulers, from which these merciless pirates launch raids across the length and breadth of the galaxy. The purpose of these raids is not to conquer planets or protect territory but to cause mayhem, steal, pillage, and – most importantly of all – capture new victims to be taken back to Commorragh for endless torture. Having fallen far into the depths of depravity, their every waking moment is dedicated to inflicting pain and suffering on the galaxy.

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- The Dutiful -
Imperial GuardIn the midst of genetically engineered super-beings, alien killing machines, warrior mystics, and technology that approaches sorcery in its sophistication, the Imperial Guard are mere mortals. Protected by little more than faith, they contend with the most terrifying threats the darkest corners of the galaxy vomits forth. As such it is easy to identify with these brave souls and to see in them the qualities of true heroes. Also: tanks tank lol

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- The Ancient -
Necrons Ancient beyond imagining, the Necrons are awakening from their 60-million-year dormancy to plague the living once more. Thousands of immortal, soulless warriors have risen from dusty stasis-tombs, their cold wills bent on harvesting the teeming species of the galaxy. Their miraculous technology was far in advance of any contemporary equivalent long before the Eldar, reckoned the oldest amongst the xenos races, had even begun their existence, and it is only that so few have awoken that they do not pose a greater threat in the current day.

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- The Beast -
Orks The most widespread and warlike race of aliens in the bloodstained galaxy of the 41st millennium. From the depths of the galactic core to the distant ghost-stars beyond the galactic rim, burgeoning Ork empires rise and fall. In terms of sheer numbers and planets, Orks occupy more of the galaxy than any other single race, and if they ever unified, they would crush all opposition the stood before them. However, the Orks' passion for violence is so unquenchable that they spend their entire lives embroiled in war, and will fight each other as readily as any other foe.

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- The Loyal -
Space MarinesThey are the most powerful and dreaded of all the human warriors in the galaxy. No longer strictly human, but superhuman, superior in all respects to mere men by a harsh regime of genetic modification, psycho-conditioning and rigorous training. Being few in number compared to the uncounted trillions of humanity, Space Marines are organized into small independent armies called Chapters. Their unswerving loyalty is to the Emperor of Mankind first, their Chapter second, and none other beyond that.

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- The Young -
Tau Empire Since their first contact with the Imperium in the 35th millennium, the Tau have risen from a hunter-gatherer society to a star-faring race in less than six thousand years. Absolute obedient to the command of the enigmatic ethereal caste, the Tau believe that now is their time. It is their race and their Empire that will bring unity to the stars, all races equal, and the Tau first among them. There is no foe their technology cannot overcome, no quandary their science cannot resolve, the stars and all that lies between to be joined beneath the aegis of the Greater Good.


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- The Hungry -
Tyranids Without a doubt the most alien race encountered by Humanity. They have been likened to galactic locusts, remorselessly hungry and too numerous to stop. Tyranids are a nomadic, space-dwelling race that emerged from the void between galaxies into our own in search of new resources to consume. These hive fleets have discovered sustenance in abundance in the forms of the myriad species of the Milky Way galaxy, stripping planets of all bio-mass before moving on, leaving nothing but a ball of scoured rock in the wake of their titanic swarms. What's worse, no one seems able to halt, let alone reverse, the Tyranid tide as its tendrils bore ever deeper towards the heart of our galaxy.


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- The Faithful -
Witchhunters The darkness contained within the Imperium itself is a sinister and subtle threat. The heretic, mutant, and rogue psyker threaten humanity with an internal rot far more damaging than any xenos invasion. The Ordo Hereticus exists to seek and burn out this threat. Known as the Witch Hunters, these Inquisitors command the might of the Imperium – especially the Adepta Sororitas – in their hunt for the witch, the mutant, the heretic, the fallen cleric, and none is permitted to escape the cleansing fire of their wrath.
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Chapter 2: Where to buy
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Chapter 3:Where to talk about it
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Chapter 4: Army Transports
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Chapter 5: Painting services
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Chapter 6: Paints, tools, and hobby supplies:
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Appendix


Gallery of Cool Custom Dice
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Nifty pictures to follow:
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A Gentleman's guide to the modern codex:
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What books should I read?
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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    If you are wondering what Finecast is, then to summarise, Games Workshop have decided to move away from casting character figures, monsters and elite units in white metal, instead opting for a new resin hybrid - the Citadel Finecast range.

    In the first wave, there are around 120 Citadel Finecast kits, cast using the new resin. These include a range of the most popular figures previously cast in white metal for most armies, along with all the new character and elites/monster releases. The word is, all new models which would have previously been cast in metal will now be cast in the Finecast resin and the change will also sweep back through "most" of the existing miniatures still cast in metal.

    From http://cmdante.blogspot.com/2011/05/citadel-finecast-review.html

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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Frowbakk wrote: »
    The A-to-Z (almost) of non-GW, but cool, miniature suppliers.

    Spoiler:

    Battlescribe, the army builder alternative:
    http://www.battlescribe.net/

    Files:
    http://www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/BattleScribe_Table.html

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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Hey guys I am going to start up a Summer Vassal 40k and Vassal BFG combined campaign. Go check it out in this thread:
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=19420215#post19420215

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    It's worth mentioning that the OP is somewhat dated; none of the faction links work.

  • StragintStragint Registered User regular
    Saw an Ultramarine at Phoenix comic con yesterday. He was talking to a Clone Trooper, I was really hoping for a fight.

  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    ElderCat wrote: »
    Hey guys I am going to start up a Summer Vassal 40k and Vassal BFG combined campaign. Let me know if you are in. There will be rules for just playing 40k if you don't want to play BFG.

    Signed up:
    Eldercat: BFG: Imperial Navy, 40k: Dark Angels

    I down. Never played bfg before though.

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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I just tested all of them, and they all work for me, what specifically are you having issues with?

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    The faction links, try clicking Tyranids or Witchhunters for example. It just takes you to a GW portal.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose Registered User regular
    To answer the thread title: Yes, of course it is. It was ruined forever last time anything changed too. And the time before that. And the one before that as well....

    In other news, Maelstrom has today's Finecast releases available for order and their 18% off voucher (GW-ROW) works with them, so it's not all doom and gloom. Unless you already bought Ushabti for the higher price last week or something.

    ...because dragons are AWESOME! That's why.
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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Nope. They work.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    The faction links, try clicking Tyranids or Witchhunters for example. It just takes you to a GW portal.
    If you select a country and let the site set a cookie, the links will work after that.

    They won't auto-forward you, mind, so you might have to reload the page.

    ...because dragons are AWESOME! That's why.
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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    That happens every time you visit a GW page and don't have a cookie from them in your browser. You have to tell GW what country you are from, and then the links will work.

    PS: the links are a copy/paste from the last OP, I just changed the descriptions.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    Yep, that worked. I assumed it was just a broken link. :P

  • OgotaiOgotai Registered User regular
    Mananged to get a game in yesterday. Let a guy starting a BT army borrow my 1k points of templars and teamed up with 1k of my guard aginst 2k of blood angels.

    BT list
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    Guard list
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    BA list was something like this
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    We were trying to teach the guy with my BTs how to play so we just had one objective in the center of the board. Not that it mattered as we called the game after turn 3. BA guy had horrible dice, if we played turn 4 everything he had left would have been dead or tied up with atleast 1 av12 walker.

    short summary,
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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Carrion-Eater Registered User regular
    Anyway, here's a more positive experience with Finecast than a lot of the yelling and bawling that's going around.
    I gotta say, the more I think about it the more pumped I am about this finecast craziness. Tons of figures I'd sworn I'd never touch are now tempting me. Like the Shaggoth or the fantasy Chaos Lord on a mount, who would be horrible to work with in metal.
    Does anyone know when the Thunderfire is going to get resined, because I would willingly pay full price for a chance at that in anything other than metal.

    They seem to be pushing the resilience factor as well, which is interesting if true. I'm always knocking shit off the table.
    ElderCat wrote: »
    Hey guys I am going to start up a Summer Vassal 40k and Vassal BFG combined campaign. Let me know if you are in. There will be rules for just playing 40k if you don't want to play BFG.

    Signed up:
    Eldercat: BFG: Imperial Navy, 40k: Dark Angels
    Law: BFG: ??? 40k: ???
    Sign me up for Chaos Navy BFG, and IG (traitor) 40k.

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  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    Buying my resin Ghaz today hell yeah

  • MorskittarMorskittar Registered User regular
    I'm really curious to check out Finecast, but there's nothing I really need.

    That's a lie, of course. I always need more mans.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    I am not sure how much I can play in the league come July 19th(summer quarter of grad school starts) but I would be up for it. I think I will go Ork for this league Eldercat. Which means I guess I need to figure out bfg and find vassal for it.

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Registered User regular
    Hey guys. What's up? I heard someone bad mouthing the links in my OP so I appeared.

    So I'll be student teaching in the fall at a middle school here in Omaha with a kick ass supervising teacher. However I will most likely be quitting my job as I do not want to be in a school with a bunch of tweens from 7 to 3 all week then go right to work afterward. In fact they actually recommend not working during this period and my parents are pretty awesome and supportive to help me out.

    What this means is that I'll have a shit ton of time to play this come the fall at night and on weekends as I'll be needing a way to relax that doesn't involve spending more money. (For once having 16,000 points of IG might pay off!)

    What this means in the short term is that I'm working as much as physically possible to save up money. :(


    Also I'll ask a single question. Finecast. Does this mean I can get Vostroyans in resin now?

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  • HuntzyHuntzy Registered User regular
    I guess ill try BFG put me down for Ba and space marine fleet

  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon Registered User regular
    I'd be interested in the campaign. I dropped out of the last vassal thing we did due to time constraints, but I'm moreavailable for a while, so it should work out.

    40k: Black Templars
    BFG: Imperial Navy/Astartes Fleet

  • TalonZahnTalonZahn Registered User regular
    Morskittar wrote: »
    I'm really curious to check out Finecast, but there's nothing I really need.

    That's a lie, of course. I always need more mans.

    This man speaks the truth.

    All the finecast posts/reviews are amusing. Some are great, others are horrible...... crap is just all over the place.

    The bad ones I see and I just can't believe they are that bad. Then I think, why..... why would you buy someting you can physically look at and see it's messed up. Oh yea, Nerd Rage on the Net makes you awesome.

    I'm sure I will find something I "need" but I don't think I will look for the most jacked up one on the shelf and then scream about it on the internet.

    I'll probably find the best of the bunch and tell no one!

  • 28682868 Registered User
    Putting this in the new thread:

    Selling my black Templars, info in sig, for 450$ this weekend (through Monday) or a nids trade (well painted or unpainted).

    Warhams. Allatime warhams.

    buy warhams
  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Registered User regular
    I'm up for the campaign. I don't know the rules for BFG though, so I guess I'll just stick to the 40K. I'll use Dark Eldar again I guess, why not.

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  • altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    man, I need a cool theme for this bastion i just put together. Anyone have any suggestions?

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  • AgapiosAgapios Registered User
    altmann wrote: »
    man, I need a cool theme for this bastion i just put together. Anyone have any suggestions?

    Grim and Dark?

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Well hey, Australian finecast prices are up. And I'm actually not that shocked at the new pricing. All of the mid sized Tyranids went up only $4au to $41au. I was expecting them to put them all up to $50au.

    Except the Pyrovore, that's $62au. Who the fuck is going to pay that for a Pyrovore? And the Hive Tyrant is now $96au. Good thing I never planned on buying a GW Tyrant.

    Aaaand then I checked the Fantasy prices. Fuck. A Varghulf went from $44au to $62au? How the fuck? 5 Blood Knights went from $150au to $165au? Really?

  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    Hmmm...so got vassal bfg up and running. I am now reading through the rules. I am kind of excited about this.

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Reading finecast threads is really funny. You see a few people post saying they bought miniature X, no air bubbles, no miscasting, stuck together fine, awesome quality. One person says they got a miscast part and about 10 people quote it replying "OMG LOL GW FAILCOST SUCKS GO BUY WARMACHINE".

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Carrion-Eater Registered User regular
    The amount of assumed expertise that gets thrown around in them is hilarious, in a tragically pathetic sort of way, like a clown hopping through a mine field. There seems to be serious headbutting going between 'this is the initial run, they're working out the details, later ones will be better!' HOPE and 'the first cast from clean molds are always the best, everything else from here out is going to suck even more!' DOOM

    As to AU pyrovore prices... maybe GW is hoping some people will fall for, 'if it's expensive, it HAS to be good!'

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  • NaxNax Registered User regular
    I'm just glad that from now on I will easily be able to cut off IC heads and put helmets on them :P

    The following people are amazing and I love them: Wildcat, Timspork, Kias, Denada, susan, Sharp101, [GHSC]Ryctor, Matev, Matrias, ItBurns, Slapnuts, Dayspring, see317, and the unknown poster that sent me a box of Death Company! <3 If you get them as Santees you should buy them amazing things!
  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    couple of things from the last thread:

    1) necromunda house rules. someone is running a campaign with them what were they?
    2) GW stores. do people really go to these? my FLGS has 30+ tables and I get 30% off stuff (15% off direct sales). Last time I was in a GW store it was in a mall, had a couple tables, everything sold at MSRP, and high school dropout types were working there.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    So apparently GW's new policy (as of this weekend) is to not accept Miss-cast returns without the store calling GW and getting a store troll to help them. Or at least so goes the rumor.

    Woo?

    TalonZahn wrote: »
    The bad ones I see and I just can't believe they are that bad. Then I think, why..... why would you buy someting you can physically look at and see it's messed up. Oh yea, Nerd Rage on the Net makes you awesome.

    I'm sure I will find something I "need" but I don't think I will look for the most jacked up one on the shelf and then scream about it on the internet.

    Finecasts come in a opaque box, you have to purchase them before you can check. Most gaming stores I know would let you check in the store and swap boxes if you got a bad one, but...

    Delzhand wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they're just sitting on FF6/7 Remakes waiting for their stock price to drop to a certain level. It's sort of like waiting to use Curaga until you're under 25% HP.
  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    So apparently GW's new policy (as of this weekend) is to not accept Miss-cast returns without the store calling GW and getting a store troll to help them. Or at least so goes the rumor.

    Woo?

    TalonZahn wrote: »
    The bad ones I see and I just can't believe they are that bad. Then I think, why..... why would you buy someting you can physically look at and see it's messed up. Oh yea, Nerd Rage on the Net makes you awesome.

    I'm sure I will find something I "need" but I don't think I will look for the most jacked up one on the shelf and then scream about it on the internet.

    Finecasts come in a opaque box, you have to purchase them before you can check. Most gaming stores I know would let you check in the store and swap boxes if you got a bad one, but...

    Uhm, not that librarian. You can easily see the contents of every blister. As for the normal boxes, it's no different than the stuff right now. The most ridiculous thing about all of this is the fact that out of the tens of thousands of blisters they're sending out across the world, people are flipping shit about half a dozen really awful miscats that got put up online. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though.

  • TalonZahnTalonZahn Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    Finecasts come in a opaque box, you have to purchase them before you can check. Most gaming stores I know would let you check in the store and swap boxes if you got a bad one, but...

    I hope this would be fairly common practice anywhere. Even at a GW Hole in the Mall. If you grab a pack, pay for it, and open it at the counter..... surely they would let you exchange it if it was truly farked.

    Dakka has the best rage thread at the moment. Several back and forth about "I bought one and it makes the Sistine Chapel look like a turd in a bucket." vs. "Mine is so hosed it went back in time and punched baby Jesus in the face!"


    [Edit] Just saw the Carnosaur in the Dakka thread (I know it's not 40k) and that thing looks amazing compared to the metal.

  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    2) GW stores. do people really go to these? my FLGS has 30+ tables and I get 30% off stuff (15% off direct sales). Last time I was in a GW store it was in a mall, had a couple tables, everything sold at MSRP, and high school dropout types were working there.

    Depends on your country. In England, and I assume most of Europe, GW sotres are more common than normal LGS's. So a lot of store absed gaming goes in in GW stores there. In the US, there's a lot more LGS's, and these tend to be larger than GW stores.

    Australia is a lot like Europe. LGS's worth going to are few and far between. Most offer some kind of discount, but are a lot like a small GW store - a table or two to play on, a single staff, and no painting area. So given the enthusiasm GW staff show (and from experience, they're pretty enthusiastic) people are just drawn to GW stores here rather than LGS's.

    There are exceptions, my FLGS has a large shop, and two similar sized shop fronts on either side being worked on as gaming spaces. It's already big, so seing it three times the size is going to be incredible. They stock everything, are friendly and even have a painting area paid for by the store. As I said though, it's an exception, not the rule over here.

    GW has stores like this too. They're called Battle Bunkers. Lots of gaming space not reserved for introduction games. So comparing your FLGS to a small GW store is a bit unfair, go to a Battle bunker and see what it is like.

    As for pricing, expecting GW stores to have discounts when they have zero competition on their own shelves... not going to happen.
    KiTA wrote:
    Finecasts come in a opaque box, you have to purchase them before you can check. Most gaming stores I know would let you check in the store and swap boxes if you got a bad one, but...

    Solution - open it in the store after purchasing, return on the spot if it is miscast. They can't refuse a refund or replacement if you open it in front of them and show them the casting errors.

    edit - saw your comment and that... shouldn't be legal. You open it in front of them, show them there's a miscast if there is one, they have the product to replace it, they should replace it.

  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    TalonZahn wrote: »
    [Edit] Just saw the Carnosaur in the Dakka thread (I know it's not 40k) and that thing looks amazing compared to the metal.

    You could have linked the images :P
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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    I'm not really 'expecting' anything, just wondering how they still exist.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Carrion-Eater Registered User regular
    Because the thing you don't seem to realize is that your 30 table store is a diamond in the rough, and that a few of us, nay, the majority in fact, are nowhere near Raleigh. I have yet to find any stores that offer discounts on inventory of any kind. The worst offender, aside from being dim, dingy, and disorganized, is still charging MSRP on 3rd ed D&D books. You can buy Bjorn the Fell-handed though, still in his 3rd ed box, looking like he's been sitting there since it was released, although conveniently marked up to current pricing.

    The best store has non specific gaming tables, but not a lot of players for the same system at any given time. I go into my GW store, and 9 times out of time, I can get a pick up game then and there. If I can't, and it's not too busy, then the staffer will get an army out of the case and play against you.

    If there's a really good gaming store in Baltimore area, I'd love to hear about it. Otherwise, given that the local stores have nothing to recommend them over the GW store...

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    So just kind of did a 1 cruiser verse 1 cruiser game on vassal with the rule book open and I think I figured it out. I mean the rules are gw rules some stuff I had to guess like Ork big gunz being different because they do twice damage. Rolling lances. Figuring out how torpedoes work and I am not certain on movement stuff. Can I move backwards or do I have to keep moving forward? Marking turns I figured it out I think. I would love to have someone show me how to play. I am not certain what happens in certain things. Like if a group of fighters runs into a group of fighters do they kill each other? Fly through each other? Have a pie together?

    Otherwise I like the idea.

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