I mean, his dad tell him he would kill him if he didn't leave basically for being a weak little kid.
Doubt I would take that any better than he did. That kind of thing would basically destroy any semblance of self confidence (especially in a medieval setting).
Making fun of Sam is cool and all, but damn son. At least try to be clever or amusing, and not just a goose.
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VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Look, in a way, Sam is MEANT to be annoying... because he does kinda look that way, even and sometimes especially in Jon's eyes, and we only get Jon's perspective oh him in Book 1.
But you find yourself warming to him in spite of that.
Then, later, in Books 2-3
You really feel a deep affection for him because it's not just him whinging about what a craven he is, you get in his head and learn what's driving that in the first place.
So yeah, when you first meet him, he DOES whine a lot and he IS kind of annoying, but you get to know him better and then he becomes a deeply likeable character
that said, however, Dodge, you don't really have to get all internet tough guy on a dude that doesn't really exist
hey now i'm exactly as useless as our world expects us to be
Joffrey and Sansa are just garden variety medieval spoiled rich kids. Sam seems like what a guy from today would be like if he suddenly had to ride horses, fight and stand around in the snow all day.
hey now i'm exactly as useless as our world expects us to be
Joffrey and Sansa are just garden variety medieval spoiled rich kids. Sam seems like what a guy from today would be like if he suddenly had to ride horses, fight and stand around in the snow all day.
If you had started off with stuff like this you would have seemed less unhinged.
I imagine it's hard to play a dude who looks like that and make him come off as a nice dude
When Drogo postponed breaking the assassin's arms for long enough to express concern for his wife I was like 'dawww what a softie'. And then he goes on a big spiel about he is going to rape everyone tangentially related to the assassination attempt and it was kind of like the mongol equivalent of a big romantic gesture.
I can't remember how long it took me to warm up to Sam in the books, but I'm already starting to like him in the show. Just the way he delivered the "I always wanted to be a wizard" line was so silly but so earnest at the same time that it inspired my new av/location theme.
I find it weird how vehemently lots of people who haven't read the books seem to hate Sam though. For instance, one of my friends who I watch the show with hasn't read the books and he's expressed dislike for "that useless fat kid", but he seems perplexed by my dislike of Theon, who he finds to be an interesting and likeable character.
I guess readers' foreknowledge of some character arcs makes them more inclined to put up with shit from characters who get better, and more likely to condemn every little action taken by characters they don't like,
Guys i've watched the first 3 episodes and really enjoyed it; i'm going to go and hunt down the books soonish I think. Going to finish watching the series first
Rolo deserves an Emmy for his portrayal of Joffrey Baratheon in The Game of Thrones (thread)
You can choose any horse you wish for this honor.
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edited June 2011
Sam is a bit annoying. Totally not suited to the Wall and basically a massive soft baby. I do get an Alliser Thorne like urge to slap him whenever he comes on screen. But that just means potential for him to become a cool dude as his arc progresses.
Sam is a bit annoying. Totally not suited to the Wall and basically a massive soft baby. I do get an Alliser Thorne like urge to slap him whenever he comes on screen. But that just means potential for him to become a cool dude as his arc progresses.
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holy crap Alliser Thorne just rolled up in his douchemobile along with Lord Douche Slynt
I always forget how much Thorne's doucheitude is magnified between book one and book three, like he's one of those sponge toys
basically all I'm saying is that by book three thank the Gods for Samwell Tarly
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
edited June 2011
I don't want your stupid horse or your stupid statue, I'm the King and I can get any gift I want.
Bring me a kingly weapon that's a sword on one end but a crossbow on the other end but it sets people on fire on the other end.
I don't want your stupid horse or your stupid statue, I'm the King and I can get any gift I want.
Bring me a kingly weapon that's a sword on one end but a crossbow on the other end but it sets people on fire on the other end.
Your Grace, we've had news from the Far East. They claim to have developed a weapon that is one part sword, and another part hollowed steel cylinder. The cylindrical portion contains a potent powder that, when set to flame, causes an explosion that will propel small metallic projectiles at your most unworthy enemies.
It's a rather handsome and exotic weapon, may it please Your Grace.
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Doubt I would take that any better than he did. That kind of thing would basically destroy any semblance of self confidence (especially in a medieval setting).
Sir, I am perplexed by both the nature and the vehemence of the opinions which you hold, and I do not consider them to be justified.
But you find yourself warming to him in spite of that.
Then, later, in Books 2-3
So yeah, when you first meet him, he DOES whine a lot and he IS kind of annoying, but you get to know him better and then he becomes a deeply likeable character
that said, however, Dodge, you don't really have to get all internet tough guy on a dude that doesn't really exist
but worse
because the moon is actually really big
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I don't see you spouting the same vitriol against other useless people in the show thus far
Joffrey and Sansa would be top candidates at this point in time
Joffrey and Sansa are just garden variety medieval spoiled rich kids. Sam seems like what a guy from today would be like if he suddenly had to ride horses, fight and stand around in the snow all day.
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If you had started off with stuff like this you would have seemed less unhinged.
Just saying.
I wish this post had been made in the time frame of a page or two ago where other people were complaining/arguing about this.
So I ain't reading the entire thing.
I imagine it's hard to play a dude who looks like that and make him come off as a nice dude
A role where he only has to speak once an episode or less.
When Drogo postponed breaking the assassin's arms for long enough to express concern for his wife I was like 'dawww what a softie'. And then he goes on a big spiel about he is going to rape everyone tangentially related to the assassination attempt and it was kind of like the mongol equivalent of a big romantic gesture.
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And when he does it's got a decent chance of being fuckin' awesome.
Which also means he will be fantastic as Conan.
Where did Sam get a (bad) Scottish accent from?
so's sansa
Samsa
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I find it weird how vehemently lots of people who haven't read the books seem to hate Sam though. For instance, one of my friends who I watch the show with hasn't read the books and he's expressed dislike for "that useless fat kid", but he seems perplexed by my dislike of Theon, who he finds to be an interesting and likeable character.
I guess readers' foreknowledge of some character arcs makes them more inclined to put up with shit from characters who get better, and more likely to condemn every little action taken by characters they don't like,
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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But more than that it's just the actors facial expressions, he somehow appears hapless and kinda smug at the same time.
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You can choose any horse you wish for this honor.
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I always forget how much Thorne's doucheitude is magnified between book one and book three, like he's one of those sponge toys
basically all I'm saying is that by book three thank the Gods for Samwell Tarly
Bring me a kingly weapon that's a sword on one end but a crossbow on the other end but it sets people on fire on the other end.
https://medium.com/@alascii
How about ... no.
?
Your Grace, we've had news from the Far East. They claim to have developed a weapon that is one part sword, and another part hollowed steel cylinder. The cylindrical portion contains a potent powder that, when set to flame, causes an explosion that will propel small metallic projectiles at your most unworthy enemies.
It's a rather handsome and exotic weapon, may it please Your Grace.
How about...no?
...your grace.
fair game
The guy playing him is just so friendly and jovial!
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