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The DC Universe (Established 2011) + Sept. Solicits

HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
edited July 2011 in Graphic Violence
UPDATE: FULL SEPTEMBER SOLICITS

It is that time, folks. Time for DC to completely reboot all of their titles for the first time since Crisis on Infinite Earths, and in a much more coordinated and organized effort.

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Flashpoint apparently will change everything, in a Flash. DC's only two titles shipping on August 31st: Flashpoint 5, and Justice League #1 by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee. The league is looking quite different here; they all seem to be much younger. Jim Lee, Cully Hamner and Mark Chiarello have redesigned all of the characters. Not just those ones above. Like, almost literally, all the characters in the DCU.

And also, you might note that a lot of you were right about Flashpoint in that
That looks an awful lot like the Flashpoint Cyborg up there.

JLA is riding the walrus, though. Behind it, a total of 51 other new series or reboots (52 total) will be arriving in September with #1 issues.

So, what do we know about the launches and reboots so far?
-Flashpoint really seems like an excuse to mess with things. Some characters might be in for some very drastic changes, some may disappear, and others (particularly Batman and Green Lantern) will just be picking up where they left off in August. If you want some more insight into this, check out Bleeding Cool's ongoing coverage of the Post-Flashpoint DCU.

-JLA and Action Comics will be the corner stones of the new universe, and their first arcs will be new secret origin stories (yep, another secret origin for Superman) set 5 years in the past. Judging by solicit text, other books may follow this pattern as well (JLI, Hawkman, and Firestorm for example).

-Additionally, your favorite Wildstorm Universe characters (hahahahaha) will be joining the DCU and teaming with big name DC heroes in a new group of titles labeled "The Edge!" It's been some time since Grant Morrison's midling WildCATS/JLA crossover.


Full List of Number Ones & Covers:
(Courtesy of Magna Inferno)

The Complete DCnU titles in September
01. Justice League #1
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Geoff Johns/Jim Lee
02. Wonder Woman #1
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New York Times bestselling writer Brian Azzarello, author of The Joker and 100 Bullets, teams up with the immensely talented artist Cliff Chiang (Neil Young’s Greendale) for WONDER WOMAN #1, an exciting new series starring the DC Universe’s greatest superheroine. The cover to issue #1 is by Cliff Chiang.
03. Aquaman #1
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Geoff Johns, one of comics’ greatest storytellers, reunites with GREEN LANTERN and BRIGHTEST DAY collaborator Ivan Reis to bring you a thrilling new take on the fan-favorite hero of the sea in AQUAMAN #1. The cover to issue #1 is by Ivan Reis and Joe Prado.
04. The Flash #1
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Rising superstar Francis Manapul, fresh off his acclaimed run on THE FLASH with Geoff Johns, makes his comics writing debut in THE FLASH #1, sharing both scripting and art duties with Brian Buccellato. The Flash knows he can’t be everywhere at once, but what happens when he faces an all-new villain who can? The cover to issue #1 is by Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato.
05. The Fury of Firestorm #1
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Welcome to a major new vision of the Nuclear Man as writers Ethan Van Sciver and Gail Simone team up with artist Yildiray Cinar to deliver THE FURY OF FIRESTORM #1. Jason Rusch and Ronnie Raymond are two high school students, worlds apart – and now they’re drawn into a conspiracy of super science that bonds them forever in a way they can’t explain or control. The cover to issue #1 is by Ethan Van Sciver.
06. The Savage Hawkman #1
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Batman writer Tony Daniel will team up with artist Philip Tan (GREEN LANTERN: AGENT ORANGE, THE OUTSIDERS) for THE SAVAGE HAWKMAN #1. Carter Hall’s skill at deciphering lost languages has led him to a job with an archeologist who specializes in alien ruins – but will the doctor’s latest discovery spread an alien plague through New York City? No matter the personal cost, Carter Hall must don his cowl and wings and become the new, savage Hawkman to survive. The cover to issue #1 is by Philip Tan.
07. Green Arrow #1
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Oliver Queen is an orphan who grew up to fight crime as the Green Arrow, a billionaire playboy who uses his fortune to become a superhero – able to fight the most powerful super-villains in the universe with nothing but a bow and arrow. JT Krul will write GREEN ARROW #1 with art by superstar artist Dan Jurgens. The cover to issue #1 is by Brett Booth.
08. Justice League International #1
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A team of internationally-drafted superheroes fight each other and their bureaucratic supervisors as much as they do global crime in JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL #1 from writer Dan Jurgens and artist Aaron Lopresti. The cover to issue #1 is by Aaron Lopresti.
09. Mister Terrific #1
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The world’s third-smartest man – and one of its most eligible bachelors – uses his brains and fists against science gone mad in MISTER TERRIFIC #1, the new series from writer Eric Wallace and artist Roger Robinson. The cover to issue #1 is by J.G. Jones.
10. Captain Atom #1
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Captain Atom has all the power in the world, but no hope of saving himself. Charged by nuclear energy, possessing vast molecular powers, he has the potential to be a god among men – a hero without limits. But the question is this: Will he lose himself in the process? JT Krul and artist Freddie Williams II take the character in a bold new direction in CAPTAIN ATOM #1. The cover to issue #1 is by Stanley “Artgem” Lau.
11. DC Universe Presents #1
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The anthology series gets a new look in DC Universe Presents, a new series that will focus on multi-issue story arcs each featuring a different superhero from the DC Universe’s rich cast of characters, told by some of comics’ most exciting writers and artitsts. DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS #1 kicks off the first arc of the series: a Deadman story by Paul Jenkins and Bernard Chang. The cover to issue #1 is by Ryan Sook
12. Green Lantern #1
Geoff Johns has been charting the adventures of Hal Jordan and the GREEN LANTERN Corps since GREEN LANTERN: Rebirth, collaborating with such major artists as Ethan Van Sciver, Darwyn Cooke, Prentis Rollins, Marlo Alquiza and Mick Gray.
This fall, Johns reunites with artists Doug Mahnke and Christian Alamy, as the series begins anew with GREEN LANTERN #1 with cover by Ivan Reis and Joe Prado. Together they will continue to thrill readers and expand the Green Lantern mythos.
Change is coming. But set aside your fear. It’ll be worth the wait.
13. Green Lantern Corps #1
When deadly conflicts emerge across the universe, it’s up to Guy Gardner, John Stewart and an elite Green Lantern strike force to keep the peace.
GREEN LANTERN CORPS #1 will be written by Peter J. Tomasi with art by Fernando Pasarin and Scott Hanna. The cover to #1 is by Doug Mahnke and Christian Alamy.
14. Green Lantern: The New Guardians #1
Who are The New Guardians?
The power of Rage, Avarice, Fear, Will, Hope, Compassion and Love combine to be the most powerful (and colorful) team in the corps under the leadership of Kyle Rayner. Beware their power . . . and their volatility!
GREEN LANTERN: THE NEW GUARDIANS #1 will be written by Tony Bedard and illustrated with cover by Tyler Kirkham and Batt.
15. Red Lanterns #1
Going solo. Atrocitus and his Red Lantern Corps return in their own series, battling against injustice in the most bloody ways imaginable. This Lantern Corps takes no prisoners, they are judge, jury and executioners!
RED LANTERNS #1 will be written by Peter Milligan with art and cover by Ed Benes and Rob Hunter.
16. Batman #1
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In the first BATMAN #1 since 1930, New York Times bestselling writer Scott Snyder teams up with superstar artist Greg Capullo in his DC Comics debut! In the series, Bruce Wayne once again becomes the only character taking on the Batman name.
17. Detective Comics #1
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DC Comics’ flagship title is relaunched for the first time ever in DETECTIVE COMICS #1 by acclaimed writer/artist Tony Daniel. Marking the first time Batman will appear in a debut issue of Detective Comics, the series will find Bruce Wayne on the trail of a dangerous serial killer known only as the Gotham Ripper.
18. Batman and Robin #1
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In BATMAN AND ROBIN #1, the acclaimed creative team of Peter Tomasi and Pat Gleason will explore the family dynamic of the Caped Crusader as Bruce Wayne battles the Gotham underworld with the help of his son, Damian, in the role of Robin.
19. Batman: The Dark Knight #1
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In BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT, superstar artist David Finch writes and draws a twisted adventure that pulls Bruce Wayne deep into the halls of the famed Arkham Asylum, a jail for Gotham City’s most dangerous and criminally deranged. Finch will team up with collaborator Jay Fabok on pencils.
20. Batwoman #1
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The highly-anticipated new series from the multiple award-winning creative team of J.H. Williams III, Haden Blackman and Amy Reeder begins in BATWOMAN #1.
21. Batgirl #1
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Batgirl’s going to have to face the city’s most horrifying new villains as well as dark secrets from her past in BATGIRL #1, the stunning debut issue from fan-favorite writer Gail Simone and artists Ardian Syaf and Vicente Cifuentes.
22. Catwoman #1
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Meet Catwoman. She’s addicted to the night. Addicted to shiny objects. Addicted to Batman. Most of all, Catwoman is addicted to danger. She can’t help herself, and the truth is – she doesn’t want to. She’s good at being bad, and very bad at being good. Find out more about what makes Catwoman tick in CATWOMAN #1, written by Judd Winick and illustrated by Guillem March.
23. Birds of Prey #1
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The Birds of Prey are Gotham City’s covert ops team, taking down the villains other heroes can’t touch. Mystery novelist ands comics writer Duane Swierczynski teams up with Jesus Saiz for BIRDS OF PREY #1, the first issue of the hard-hitting new series.
24. Nightwing #1
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After a tenure as the Batman of Gotham, Dick Grayson resumes his mantle as Nightwing! As Dick embraces his identity, Haley’s Circus, the big top where he once performed with his family, returns to Gotham - bringing with it a history of murder, mystery and superhuman evil. Nightwing must confront friends and enemies from his past as he searches for the source of an even greater evil.
NIGHTWING will be written by Kyle Higgins with art duties handled by fan-favorite Eddy Barrows.
25. Red Hood and the Outlaws #1
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Batman’s former sidekick had put his past as The Red Hood behind him, when the reclusive Jason Todd finds himself unwillingly elected as the leader of an all-new team of outlaw vigilantes.
As The Red Hood once again, Jason Todd will lead this new team of antiheroes, including Green Arrow’s rejected sidekick Arsenal and Starfire, a former prisoner of intergalactic war.
RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS will be written by Scott Lobdell and illustrated by rising superstar artist Kenneth Rocafort.
26. Batwing #1
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This September, join with us in this historic moment when the first black character to wear the Batman mantle will be the first to star in his own ongoing series. BATWING will be written by Judd Winick and illustrated by Ben Oliver.
27. Swamp Thing #1
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DC Comics embraces its dark side. On the 40th anniversary of the character’s creation, the New York Times bestselling writer of AMERICAN VAMPIRE, Scott Snyder, teams up with Yannick Paquette (BATMAN, INCORPORATED) to bring horror back to the DC Universe in SWAMP THING #1. For years, one man served against his will as the avatar of nature. And while he may have been freed of the monster, he’s about to learn the monster will never truly let go of him.
28. Justice League Dark #1
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John Constantine, Deadman, Shade the Changing Man and Madame Xanadu are Justice League Dark, a band of supernatural heroes united to stop the dark things the rest of the DCU does not see in JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK #1, by Peter Milligan and artist Mikel Janin.
29. Animal Man #1
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Buddy Baker has gone from “super” man to family man – but is he strong enough to hold his family together when Maxine, his young daughter, starts to manifest her own dangerous powers? Find out in ANIMAL MAN #1, the start of a dramatic new series by acclaimed writer Jeff Lemire and artists Travel Foreman and Dan Green.
30. Demon Knights #1
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Set in the Middle Ages, the Demon leads an unlikely team to defend civilization and preserve the last vestiges of Camelot against the tide of history. Critically-acclaimed writer Paul Cornell and artists Diogenes Neves and Oclair Albert combine sorcery, swords and superheroes in DEMON KNIGHTS #1.
31. Frankenstein, Agent of Shade #1
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Frankenstein and his network of strange beings work for an even stranger government organization: The Super Human Advanced Defense Executive. It’s the breakout hero of Seven Soldiers as you’ve never seen him before in FRANKENSTEIN, AGENT OF SHADE #1, the first issue of a dark new series from acclaimed writer Jeff Lemire (Sweet Tooth, The Nobody) and artist Alberto Ponticelli.
32. Resurrection Man #1
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A cult favorite character returns in a new series written by his classic creative team of Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning. Joining them is JUSTICE LEAGUE: GENERATION LOST artist Fernando Dagnino. RESURRECTION MAN #1 is the story of a hero who wakes up with new powers each time he’s killed.
33. I, Vampire #1
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Vampires threaten to bring ruin to the DC Universe in I, VAMPIRE #1 by rising star Josh Fialkov and artist Andrea Sorrentino. Tortured by his centuries-old love for the Queen of the Damnned, Andrew Bennett must save humanity from the violent uprising of his fellow vampires, even if it means exterminating his own kind.
34. Voodoo #1
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Priscilla Kitaen has just found out she’s a monster. A half-alien hybrid, the woman known as Voodoo must confront the secrets of her past to make sense of the nightmare her life has suddenly become. VOODOO #1 will be written by Ron Marz with art by Sami Basri.
35. Legion Lost #1
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Seven heroes from the 31st century have traveled back to the present day. Their mission: Save their future from total annihilation. When the future tech they brought with them fails, they find themselves trapped in a nightmarish world and an ultimate struggle to survive. LEGION LOST #1 will be written by Fabian Nicieza and illustrated by Pete Woods, fresh off an acclaimed run of Action Comics.
36. Legion of Superheroes #1
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In the 31st century, the Legion of Superheroes is reeling from the loss of seven of their finest — and trying desperately to keep their youngest recruits alive against a series of terrible new threats. LEGION OF SUPERHEROES #1 will be written by fan-favorite Legion writer Paul Levitz and illustrated by Francis Portela.
37. Teen Titans #1
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Tim Drake is forced to step out from behind his keyboard when an international organization seeks to capture or kill super-powered teenagers. As Red Robin, he must team up with the mysterious and belligerent powerhouse thief known as Wonder Girl and a hyperactive speedster calling himself Kid Flash in TEEN TITANS #1, by Scott Lobdell and artists Brett Booth and Norm Rapmund.
38. Static Shock #1
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Virgil Hawkins has been gifted with incredible electrical powers. Adopting the persona of Static, he faces super-powered street gangs, raging hormones, homework, and girls in STATIC SHOCK #1, co-written by John Rozum and Scott McDaniel, with McDaniel also illustrating along with Jonathan Glapion.
39. Hawk and Dove #1
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It’s up to the living avatars of war and peace to root out the hidden forces who look to plunge the country into a deadly civil war in HAWK AND DOVE #1. The exciting new series will be written by Sterling Gates and illustrated by legendary superstar comics artist Rob Liefeld.
40. Stormwatch #1
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Stormwatch is a dangerous super human strike force whose existence is kept secret from the world. Jack Hawksmoor and the rest of the crew look to recruit two of the deadliest super humans on the planet: Midnighter and Apollo. And if they say no? Perhaps the Martian Manhunter can change their minds. Featuring a surprising new roster, STORMWATCH #1 will be written by the critically-acclaimed Paul Cornell (Superman: The Black Ring, “Dr. Who”) and illustrated by Miguel Sepulveda.
41. Blackhawks #1
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Blackhawk is an elite group of mercenaries made up of brave men from around the world equipped with the latest in cutting-edge hardware and vehicles. Their mission: Kill the bad guys before they kill us. A set of contemporary tales that battle the world’s gravest threats, BLACKHAWKS #1 will be written by Mike Costa and illustrated by Ken Lashley.
42. Sgt. Rock and The Men of War #1
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The grandson of the original Sgt. Rock assumes the command of Easy Company, a team of crack ex-military men financed by a covert military contractor, as they brave the battle-scarred landscape carved by the DC Universe’s super-villains. SGT. ROCK AND THE MEN OF WAR #1 is contemporary military story fighting under modern conditions, and will be written by Ivan Brandon and illustrated by Tom Derenick.
43. All-Star Western #1
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Even when Gotham City was just a one-horse town, crime was rampant – and things only get worse when bounty hunter Jonah Hex comes to town. Can Amadeus Arkham, a pioneer in criminal psychology, enlist Hex’s special brand of justice to help the Gotham Police Department track down a vicious serial killer? Featuring back-up stories starring DC’s other western heroes, ALL-STAR WESTERN #1 will be written by the fan-favorite Jonah Hex team of Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti and illustrated by Moritat.
44. Deathstroke #1
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A metahuman mercenary who made a living taking out the toughest targets, Deathstroke will reclaim his fearsome legacy by any means necessary in DEATHSTROKE #1, a new series from rising star Kyle Higgins (Batman: Gates of Gotham) and artists Joe Bennett and Art Thibert.
45. Grifter #1
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Ex-black ops agent Cole Cash is a charming grifter that few can resist. And yet he’s about to be branded a serial killer when he begins hunting and exterminating inhuman creatures hidden in human form – creatures only he can see. Can the biggest sweet talker of all time talk his way out of this one when even his brother thinks he’s gone over the edge? Find out in GRIFTER #1, written by Nathan Edmondson with art by CAFU and BIT (the team behind T.H.U.N.D.E.R. AGENTS).
46. OMAC #1
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A man loses control of his life as the omnipresent Brother Eye transforms him against his will into a powerful killing machine OMAC #1, written by DC Comics Co-Publisher Dan DiDio and co-written and illustrated by Keith Giffen and Scott Koblish.
47. Suicide Squad #1
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"Harley Quinn! Deadshot! King Shark! They’re a team of death-row super villains recruited by the government to take on missions so dangerous – they’re sheer suicide! Who will be the first to crack under the pressure? Find out in SUICIDE SQUAD #1, written by Adam Glass (FLASHPOINT: LEGION OF DOOM) with art by Marco Rudy (THE SHIELD)."
48. Blue Beetle #1
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It’s not easy being Jaime Reyes. He has to deal with high school, family and all the drama that comes with being a teenager. Also, he’s linked to a powerful scarab created by an alien race who seek to subjugate planets – or annihilate them. It’s up to one teen hero to turn this instrument of destruction into a force for good in BLUE BEETLE #1, written by Tony Bedard (GREEN LANTERN CORPS) and illustrated by Ig Guara (FLASHPOINT: GRODD OF WAR) and Ruy Jose.
49. Action Comics #1
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This September, New York Times bestselling writer Grant Morrison (ALL-STAR SUPERMAN) joins with sensational artist Rags Morales to bring you tales of The Man of Tomorrow unlike any you’ve ever read before in ACTION COMICS #1. This momentous first issue will set in motion the history of the DC Universe as Superman defends a world that doesn’t trust their first Super Hero.
50. Superman #1
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What is Superman’s startling new status quo? How does it affect his friends, loved ones and his job at The Daily Planet? Find out in SUPERMAN #1, written by legendary comics creator George Perez (CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, NEW TEEN TITANS and WONDER WOMAN) and illustrated by Jesus Merino.
51. Supergirl #1
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Supergirl’s got the unpredictable behavior of a teenager, the same powers as Superman and none of his affection for the people of Earth. Writers Michael Green and Mike Johnson (Smallville, SUPERMAN/BATMAN) will team up with artist Mahmud Asrar to give a new take on the teenager from Krypton in SUPERGIRL #1.
52. Superboy #1
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They thought he was just a failed experiment, grown from a combination of Kryptonian and human DNA. But when the scope of his stunning powers was revealed, he became a deadly weapon. SUPERBOY #1 will be written by Scott Lobdell with art by R.B. Silva and Rob Lean.


Solicits and release dates are coming Monday, so keep an eye out for those, and let's have this be the DC solicit thread for September as well.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ALL ABOARD THE JOHNS TRAIN!

    Also, Hal was a giant gun penis. Watch out Carol!

    Plus my avatar and title are now relevant again.

    PSN; AlbertBOMB
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wait a minute

    a new OMAC series

    as in Jack Kirby's OMAC?

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wait a minute

    a new OMAC series

    as in Jack Kirby's OMAC?

    Rumor has it, yes.

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    well that may just be a thing I will buy

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Jugglus Juggler Wielder of the Dark RingRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This is happening right after i am out of boot camp

    why

    i need that boot camp money to buy a new computer

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    wait a minute

    a new OMAC series

    as in Jack Kirby's OMAC?

    Rumor has it, yes.

    The modern day OMAC design isn't too ugly-looking to me. It'd be nice if they went a little further with that Omega-Sentinel-like idea they did a mini-series around but I guess it wasn't meant to be. I mean, it's not like they've done much with Omega Sentinel herself over in Marvel.
    I suppose that's why they recently had Hellion shut her down.

  • SagrothSagroth Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    No sir, I don't like it.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    well that may just be a thing I will buy

    Yeah, this is the first book rumored about this whole thing that I might buy.

  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This kind of reminds me why I gave up on DC, especially if they go even more backwards then they have already.

    Can't wait for someone to be in charge to help kick this silver age kick of theirs.

  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Not sure I'm going to like this new Superman based on what I've been hearing.

  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Are they One More Daying Lois and Clark? That is what I heard but I'm not sure I've heard it right.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    There is a rumour that will happen

    A so far entirely unsubstantiated one

  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That's one of the things I'm concerned about, yes, if it proves to be correct.

  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I've been mulling it over and I think I am more concerned than optimistic. Things that worry me:

    -The company doesn't have a good track record with thinking out and planning these big changes.
    -Even if it turns out to be a good reboot, boy, am I reboot weary.
    -Grumble grumble Barry Allen grumble
    -There's something weird about it being a heavily Geoff Johns-envisioned DCU, even moreso than usual. But maybe that's normal? Was Post-Crisis DC taking cues from Marv Wolfman?
    -One of the reasons I read DC over Marvel is the legacy aspect, and it saddens me that it is no longer a defining part of the DCU.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The thing is, I have not read much DC stuff

    so I am not really losing anything, and I can read cool new stories

    I do sympathise with you long term fans, but for me this is a really good thing.

  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Also, hey, if they're rebooting the DCU, why not go nuts with these last arcs? Were the writers not in on the loop? You could do some pretty fantastic, amazing work if you let some of these characters have an ending to their story.

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Grant Morrison Superman. Oh, man.
    Lux wrote: »
    Also, hey, if they're rebooting the DCU, why not go nuts with these last arcs? Were the writers not in on the loop? You could do some pretty fantastic, amazing work if you let some of these characters have an ending to their story.
    Just the idea of it makes me think Reign of Doomsday is someone going completely g-d nuts.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 Eat at Jobe's Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This is exactly the sort of thing I love the concept of but never seem to trust when it actually comes to pass.

    I guess my issue more than anything is that Jim Lee is redesigning pretty much everything to be Jim Lee-d. I'm having a hard to voicing my concerns on this. I should like it, but I don't. Yet.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Let's have fun out there. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hey hey hey
    Ba de ya, say do you remember
    Ba de ya, the DC reboot in September
    Ba de ya, never was a red sky day



    As for the Justice League, 14 members?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    maybe the JLI will be involved or something

    or maybe the League will be more like it is in JLU, and actually a league as opposed to some sort of club.

    I always liked the idea that the league was pretty much all the heroes, but that the big seven sort of had informal positions of command.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Let's have fun out there. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lux wrote: »
    I've been mulling it over and I think I am more concerned than optimistic. Things that worry me:

    -The company doesn't have a good track record with thinking out and planning these big changes.
    -Even if it turns out to be a good reboot, boy, am I reboot weary.
    -Grumble grumble Barry Allen grumble
    -There's something weird about it being a heavily Geoff Johns-envisioned DCU, even moreso than usual. But maybe that's normal? Was Post-Crisis DC taking cues from Marv Wolfman?
    -One of the reasons I read DC over Marvel is the legacy aspect, and it saddens me that it is no longer a defining part of the DCU.

    Sleeping on it, what I don't really get is a few things:

    1) from all accounts the Batman and GL stories of the past few years will be relatively unchanged. These were also Johns and Morrison's major areas int he DC Universe. So the big two get their toys to stay the same but other characters don't? That's kind of a shame.

    2) connecting with #1, if you're going to go completely new with a reboot, why not go from the ground up?

    3) Will this be the 100th time we see a reimaging of the Action Comics #1 cover?

    4) the legacy aspect is a part I'm bummed about, but also the idea that to make things relevant you have to go back on people's ages instead of just going forward with new characters and ideas. That way you really own the idea that this is a relaunch, and you have the JSA being the Golden age, the JLA being the silver/current age, and all the new characters being the, I don't know, digital age of heroes. It creates such a nice stepping stone.


    Like Wildcat, I'm really weary of what they will do to Superman, even if Morrison writes his book (unless they get married in the first issue). Even Morrison knew not to linger on that triangle in All-Star Superman and was one of the main guys in the proposal from years ago to back off on erasing the marriage, but he's in a much more powerful position now, hopefully he can do the same thing here. But I doubt it, because old is new.

    edit: didn't Lois and Clark get married in Smallville? Wasn't the whole point in that series to make the two be as iconic as Hatcher and Cain in Lois & Clark, which also had the two getting married? How is a single Superman reflective of those things that had greater audience than current comics?

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    You realize you guys are forming rumors in your head and then reacting to them like they've been announced, right?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Let's have fun out there. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The Batman and Green Lantern stuff seems to be confirmed, if the Burnham tweet and CBR article is any indication. And Simone tweeting about Adventure Comics starring Deadman seems to go with the Bleeding Cool article about Deadman starring in the relaunched Adventure #1.

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I mean the whole marriage/rebooting/legacies stuff.

    On Dan Didio's facebook page he said "And by the way, never used the word "reboot.""

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  • NinjabearNinjabear Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So what does this mean for the younger super hero characters like Tim Drake, Conner Kent, Batgirl, Damien, etc.?

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Probably nothing!

    It's not a reboot!

    They'll all be on Teen Titans, most likely!

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ninjabear wrote: »
    So what does this mean for the younger super hero characters like Tim Drake, Conner Kent, Batgirl, Damien, etc.?

    They're all going to be gone and I'm done reading DC for forever. Thanks a lot, Geoff Johns

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lux wrote: »
    I've been mulling it over and I think I am more concerned than optimistic. Things that worry me:

    -The company doesn't have a good track record with thinking out and planning these big changes.

    Maybe so, but the company has also recently seen a complete overhaul in editorial team. Give em a chance, I say.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Let's have fun out there. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Looking at the cover, Hal doesn't have a ring on his hands.

    ......Ion?

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Looking at the cover, Hal doesn't have a ring on his hands.
    As phallic as that mingun construct is I would look ... lower.

    But damn, for a moment I thought Rob Liefeld drew Barry until I realized it was just Jim Lee.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Are they renumbering some of their historic books like Action and Detective? Seems like a shame to me to renumber books in the 900s.

    As for Batman and Green Lantern staying the same, it makes sense. Out of everything DC is publishing right now, those are definitely their best sellers. Morrison has already changed the entire Batman legacy with Batman & Robin and Batman Inc. And I know people like to complain about Johns, but he is the man responsible for Green Lantern's current popularity. Green Lantern was a dying book before Johns.

    Plus Flashpoint #1 was good. Very good. And its not like Johns steals all the "glory moments" for himself. Tony Bedard, who is the GL newbie, was given the major plot twist in War of the Lanterns.

  • Werewolf2000adWerewolf2000ad Suckers, I know exactly what went wrong. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    "Don't believe anything based on rampant fan speculation.

    Don't believe anything based on a unsubstantiated comic book web-site "reporting," since often what you're reading is just a big game of internet telephone (this site said this, then another site picked it up and butchered parts of it, then a 3rd site picked it up from the 2nd site and butchered it further, etc.)

    Prime example: I am not writing Teen Titans.

    So then, don't believe anything specific until you hear it specifically from a verified DC source.

    -- Fabian"

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well, wow. It's not like they're releasing information in dribs and drabs in order to fuel the hype and fan speculation for their big relaunch or anything. No sir, it's just that their blog feeds only take so many words a day before they have to be refuelled.

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Love that Cyborg is on the JLA, even if he looks like Shards of Glass Man. I am really only afraid for Grants Batman and Damian in particular.

  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tairu wrote: »
    Love that Cyborg is on the JLA, even if he looks like Shards of Glass Man. I am really only afraid for Grants Batman and Damian in particular.

    I know, right?!

    DC could not possibly be dumb enough to fuck that up, though.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Okay, having taken a day to think about it, I'm more agreeable to a reboot/renumbering.

    I hope, though, that DC makes sure it is consistent across all titles. If you're going to go in a different direction, fine, but make sure that is spelled out in the comic. Don't make the reader reconcile the JLA just forming for the first time and Blackest Night having happened already, sort of, somehow, with a bit of handwaving and vague language.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced this will finally get me to stop caring about the DCU, and drop the few books I still read. I'll wait until I see who's writing the books to come to a conclusion, but if the Flashpoint tie-ins are anything to go by, I'm not holding out much hope.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    You know, if DC wants to take this opportunity to undo some stupid bullshit, I wouldn't mind them just wiping Identity Crisis out.

  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    (Just in case anyone was wondering I was being hells of sarcastic)

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