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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Archonex wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    This ground combat update makes it sound a lot like the Star Wars Galaxy revamp #20442341

    Actually it's already a fair bit like that. Adding in the shooter mode just seals the deal.

    This is pretty obviously not the same deal. Having played SWG from release to the NGE, I'm not sure why it is you're complaining about it, in fact. Reading the patch notes, it appears that weapons now work more like FPS games with a RPG element to it.


    The NGE tried to achieve this, but ultimately half-assed it, not bothering to add in different weapon types having different functions, and turning the entire thing into a confusing mess.

    SWG's NGE still made you click constantly, crouching and going prone were largely useless (As opposed to here, it can actually be used for cover and isn't a bitch to execute.), and weaponry could generally be divided between "melee" and "ranged weaponry". That's it. Weaponry types like miniguns (Which charge up, Heavy style, and can sweep areas.) didn't, and still don't, exist.

    Going off the patch notes, they're pretty obviously assigning traits to weaponry, and are even diversifying the system so that certain modes of combat are better for certain weapons and meta-combat roles (See, miniguns being single target in RPG mode. Being able to sweep down areas in shooter mode.).


    On a side-note, a possible plus side of this is that it might actually make ground PVP not be a gigantic cluster-fuck of assholes exploiting the same overpowered three mission rewards, now that people can use tactics again and actually stack up on a door for cover, like they did in beta, without some asshat popping off a ton of unique rewards to wipe the team.


    Also, assuming that the borg nullification item is going to have a ten minute cooldown is just asinine and, as much as I hate to say it, bitching to bitch. We don't even know enough about it to comment on it yet. Though I can say that they're not going to kneecap the one way players have to fight a major end-game faction. There's incompetent, and then there's suicidal.

    They might make it a consumable. In which case I can see massive amounts of rage causing that to get changed in the immediate future, but that's it.

    I wasn't specifically complaining about it being "like" the NGE. Just pointing out a coincidence. There are similarities, and the FPS mode is what drives the thought.

    I don't think it's a problem at all, it sounds good and I am excited to see ALL of the changes. Have I said one negative thing about these notes? Nope.

  • ShapeshifterShapeshifter Pants Optioanl Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    what they need to do is just do what they do in the show.

    set phasers to a rotating frequency to defeat the borg shields.

    (they can just add a few new weapons that do this)

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid I don my top hat, and adjust my monocle, Like a god damn sir.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    what they need to do is just do what they do in the show.

    set phasers to a rotating frequency to defeat the borg shields.

    (they can just add a few new weapons that do this)

    Or just go the Star Trek: Elite Force route and bring out that rifle that gave the entire collective a giant middle finger since it had infinite modulations and they couldn't adapt to it.

  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hevach wrote: »
    Anyway, there's a big difference between SWG and this: SWG had a popular system that at the time was one of the better MMO combat systems out there, STO had... Yeah.

    You know, I keep coming into this thread every few weeks to see if there's some vein in the conversation which makes me think that I absolutely need to dive headlong back into this game, but there's always a line like this. ;-)

  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    Hevach wrote: »
    Anyway, there's a big difference between SWG and this: SWG had a popular system that at the time was one of the better MMO combat systems out there, STO had... Yeah.

    That statement is kind of a stretch. Someone doesn't remember how horribly broken SWG's system was.

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
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  • AsumaAsuma Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SammyF wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Anyway, there's a big difference between SWG and this: SWG had a popular system that at the time was one of the better MMO combat systems out there, STO had... Yeah.

    You know, I keep coming into this thread every few weeks to see if there's some vein in the conversation which makes me think that I absolutely need to dive headlong back into this game, but there's always a line like this. ;-)

    Yeah, I'm done with this game. Tried to level a new character because I'd run out of interesting things with my Admiral... just cannot bear to go back through the process. The 'remastered' missions are more polished, but the core is still rotten.

    Thanks Cryptic for taking a universe that I absolutely adore and making it a shallow boring grindfest. A few patches aren't going to fix this problem - this game needs a redesign from the ground up. Doubt I'll go back even if it goes f2p.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Captain East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SammyF wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Anyway, there's a big difference between SWG and this: SWG had a popular system that at the time was one of the better MMO combat systems out there, STO had... Yeah.

    You know, I keep coming into this thread every few weeks to see if there's some vein in the conversation which makes me think that I absolutely need to dive headlong back into this game, but there's always a line like this. ;-)

    Every few months or so I re-up for a month, then wonder what the hell I was thinking.



  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The SWG system was only good if you were a TK or a Combat Medic.

  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SammyF wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Anyway, there's a big difference between SWG and this: SWG had a popular system that at the time was one of the better MMO combat systems out there, STO had... Yeah.

    You know, I keep coming into this thread every few weeks to see if there's some vein in the conversation which makes me think that I absolutely need to dive headlong back into this game, but there's always a line like this. ;-)

    Every few months or so I re-up for a month, then wonder what the hell I was thinking.

    I've been thinking every so often that I ought to send you a card or something to thank you for doing this and posting about it so that I don't have to, but I haven't found anything appropriate from Halmark yet.

  • ValaenaValaena Registered User
    edited June 2011
    I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game. :( did you play with us? We're pretty fun folk.

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Valaena wrote: »
    I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game. :( did you play with us? We're pretty fun folk.

    Are you asking me? I played with y'all a couple of times, and I'd agree you're fun folk, I just felt kind of bored. Like I was playing every fight the exact same way every time.

    For frame of reference, this was in the first couple months post-release.

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SOMEONE TELL ME IF ORBITAL STRIKE IS GOOD! The tribble notes said that is it awesome now.

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User
    edited June 2011
    The tribble build had to be brought down, so we lost our sneak peak. We'll know more tomorrow/tuesday night.

    In other news, fighting the borg and needing a consumable is not necessaily the end of the world. We have melee weapons now, so it's not like energy weapons are required to defeat them. Honestly I'd be curious to see how far a 5 man team could get on infected using nothing but melee weapons.

    The tribble notes were quite expansive. Looks like quite a bit of retooling of things. If it makes ground combat less teadious and mashing of 1, 1, 1, 1,1, 2, 1, 1, 1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,2,1,2,1,21,2,1 I'll be happier with the gameplay as a whole.

    Eitherway, they've got their heart in the right place.

    In other news, my repalcement Fed Tac office should hit Commander by Wednesday/thursday if I get my nightly game time. Debating on starting up my replacement engineer, or slugging my way to VA first. I just hate my current engineer... Fixing so many mistakes with the character rebuilds.

    Also, I'm starting to appreciate PvP more. Played 3 good rounds in a row today 5 on 5 vs. Klingons. Some close calls, but my ship proved to be quite a match. and jam targetting sensors is awesome for pissing them off. They start to lay into me, jam their sensors and they have to go hit on someone else... hehe...

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Captain East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Valaena wrote: »
    I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game. :( did you play with us? We're pretty fun folk.

    Oh it's not a dig against this group of folks, more on the game in general. It just gets so horribly repetitive. There's only so much fun I can get from cruising around in a flying deathtrap, er escort.



  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wait, if you get hit by borg nanites and don't do anythign about it for a while you actually get assimilated and become a drone? That is pretty awesome. Also I like the idea of Borg adapting to weapons. I just hope that borg go down in a smaller number of hits if they have not adapted yet.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I didn't mash anything, once I learned about auto-attack (right-click the slot where the weapon attack is). You can set your weapons main attacks to auto-attack on ground combat and literally just move from place to place, killing things with turrets and your weapon, which also becomes a turret.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The tribble build had to be brought down, so we lost our sneak peak. We'll know more tomorrow/tuesday night.

    In other news, fighting the borg and needing a consumable is not necessaily the end of the world. We have melee weapons now, so it's not like energy weapons are required to defeat them. Honestly I'd be curious to see how far a 5 man team could get on infected using nothing but melee weapons.

    The tribble notes were quite expansive. Looks like quite a bit of retooling of things. If it makes ground combat less teadious and mashing of 1, 1, 1, 1,1, 2, 1, 1, 1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,2,1,2,1,21,2,1 I'll be happier with the gameplay as a whole.

    Eitherway, they've got their heart in the right place.

    In other news, my repalcement Fed Tac office should hit Commander by Wednesday/thursday if I get my nightly game time. Debating on starting up my replacement engineer, or slugging my way to VA first. I just hate my current engineer... Fixing so many mistakes with the character rebuilds.

    Also, I'm starting to appreciate PvP more. Played 3 good rounds in a row today 5 on 5 vs. Klingons. Some close calls, but my ship proved to be quite a match. and jam targetting sensors is awesome for pissing them off. They start to lay into me, jam their sensors and they have to go hit on someone else... hehe...

    I'm doing the exact same thing with my sci. He was my first character, and I loved the idea of science ships but I made so many mistakes. Sitting at CDR without the points to fix my boffs (and all of the boffs have shitty passives anyway). Got my tac to VA (making much wiser point investments along the way) and started to dick around in a science ship and realized that I should just make a new science captain and leave my tac as a proper escort-tac captain. The new science officer is at the end of LCDR and will be caught up with the original science captain pretty soon.

    A big part of the problem is that my original sci captain didn't have a theme. My tac captain and all his boffs have identical uniforms and crew cuts and they look like a squad of space marines, it's cool. My new science captain has an enormous ghetto ass (hip slider to max) and his boffs are all well-endowed women in a combination of TOS mini-dresses and Seven of Nine catsuits. It's hilarious, he's the space pimp. Makes the game more fun.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I will use every resource in my power to reach Commander tonight. I am an engineer. I don't see many engineer PC's floating around.

    I really want to get that advanced science vessel that has the Galaxy class saucer... but I probably won't be able to afford it.

  • ValaenaValaena Registered User
    edited June 2011
    My friend came over and played and made a guy in a pin stripe suit and an all female bridge crew. His ship was the u.s.s. sexual harassment

    And Jas, I dunno I'd you mean real people money or in game money, but I can lend you whatever energy credits you need.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Valaena wrote: »
    My friend came over and played and made a guy in a pin stripe suit and an all female bridge crew. His ship was the u.s.s. sexual harassment

    And Jas, I dunno I'd you mean real people money or in game money, but I can lend you whatever energy credits you need.

    I'm guessing he means the Nebula class?

    That one can be had for real life money or exploration tokens.

  • ValaenaValaena Registered User
    edited June 2011
    Ahh, dang. I never paid attention to science vessels. but yeah. sorry. :(

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SOMEONE TELL ME IF ORBITAL STRIKE IS GOOD! The tribble notes said that is it awesome now.

    You know how it is the first level you get it and it's actually kind of ok but tanks really fast from there? Well, the problem is, it doesn't benefit from the skills it's supposed to, and doesn't scale with higher ranks. It's supposed to be better when you first get it and remain proportionally around that good. There was a post a couple weeks ago that they felt even the fixed version was a bit weak and upped the base.

    I didn't copy my engineer over in time while S4 was on tribble, but just based on what I know it should be fairly good.

    Edit: Also, he is talking about the Nebula, but he also said Commander. The commander nebula is like the commander Excelsior, it's just EC, but it costs much more than a normal ship, like 250k.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hevach wrote: »
    SOMEONE TELL ME IF ORBITAL STRIKE IS GOOD! The tribble notes said that is it awesome now.

    You know how it is the first level you get it and it's actually kind of ok but tanks really fast from there? Well, the problem is, it doesn't benefit from the skills it's supposed to, and doesn't scale with higher ranks. It's supposed to be better when you first get it and remain proportionally around that good. There was a post a couple weeks ago that they felt even the fixed version was a bit weak and upped the base.

    I didn't copy my engineer over in time while S4 was on tribble, but just based on what I know it should be fairly good.

    Edit: Also, he is talking about the Nebula, but he also said Commander. The commander nebula is like the commander Excelsior, it's just EC, but it costs much more than a normal ship, like 250k.

    250k is chump change to those of us with one or more captains sitting at VA.

    My 3 alts are all close to a million each, just from auctioning overflow crap that my VA didn't have room to post at auction.

  • ValaenaValaena Registered User
    edited June 2011
    I don't know how many characters he has. :( regardless, if anyone needs money, just ask.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm doing something quite different for my Sci than I did leveling my tac. I'm only doing the storyline missions. No DSE, no exploration (except to pick up and not complete aid the planet missions for farming later) and no patrols.

    And man, let me just say there is a dearth of storyline missions. I have been doing episodes to fill in any time my storyline missions are above me in level. I'm LCDR 9 and I've already done all three episodes all the way through, and replayed all the Davidian and Breen missions at least once a piece, and several of them 2-3 times.

    They could definitely stand to add some alternate story arcs to base missions.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Valaena wrote: »
    I don't know how many characters he has. :( regardless, if anyone needs money, just ask.

    Oh yeah, I gathered he didn't have the money, I was indicating that most of us could front him the EC for a Nebula without it impacting our near-term goals.

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Any news on when the Ambassador class will be out? I still desperatly want that ship.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Any news on when the Ambassador class will be out? I still desperatly want that ship.

    Sounds like not until after the new Enterprise lands. Hard to piece together, but priority one the other day dStahl mentioned the Ambassador was one of the next two ships in the docket, and would be launched in game alongside a new featured episode, but not the next one.

    I think he was talking about the Ambassador when he mentioned August to September, but I'd have to relisten to the podcast, he was talking about at least three different shpis in there.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah I am talking about the nebula class. I thought it was Energy Tokens. The chart I have says Energy Tokens.

    If I can't get that one when I will get a cruiser.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    At commander it's EC. Anyone can help you with the cost - I would if I wasn't waiting on my new power supply. New Egg has a fascinating new kind of free 4 day shipping that takes two weeks, so at this point I'm just hoping it's here in time for the Borg invasion.

    The Admiral level nebula is 500 marks of exploration, which is a pretty hefty grind, even with trading down emblems. If you try to kill yourself to get it, you can do it in like 20 days, but it's really not worth going that hardcore for it.


    Noticed something I didn't actually try on Tribble, the new fleet action queue system is really cool sounding. You can set the rank for the instance, and even set a password and get a fully private fleet action if you want. If it works exactly as said in the patch notes, it would be possible to set the rank to the lowest allowed for a zone and then go in alone as a VA and wreck the place for your trophy. I actually rather like doing that with Klingon Scout Force. Feels a bit exploitish, but the rewards are junk mk II gear, and with the queue system I'm not screwing random lowbies out of loot.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That might actually make the crystalline entity doable.

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    Also, the Nebula is going to be a lot less appealing at vice admiral than it is at commander. The intrepid refit is available at VA for regular energy credits, and it is extremely good. It's also extremely maneuverable, which the nebula isn't.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That might actually make the crystalline entity doable.


    Man, I was in a group that had it down. 5%, everything under control... then some random chucklefuck zones in, hits evasive maneuvers, and ploughs through the middle of the fight with scatter volley firing. Boom, CE heals back up into phase 2 and all hope is lost.

    Not sure if the CE would be soloable even with the level turned down, but at the very least, a prepared and organized fleet with a private instance would easily be able to manage it. It's not a difficult fight, just long, unintuitive, and requires everybody on board. Pretty much a raid boss from any MMO at heart. Exactly the sort of thing they should have implemented as an STF, not a fleet action.

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hevach wrote: »
    At commander it's EC. Anyone can help you with the cost - I would if I wasn't waiting on my new power supply. New Egg has a fascinating new kind of free 4 day shipping that takes two weeks, so at this point I'm just hoping it's here in time for the Borg invasion.

    The Admiral level nebula is 500 marks of exploration, which is a pretty hefty grind, even with trading down emblems. If you try to kill yourself to get it, you can do it in like 20 days, but it's really not worth going that hardcore for it.


    Noticed something I didn't actually try on Tribble, the new fleet action queue system is really cool sounding. You can set the rank for the instance, and even set a password and get a fully private fleet action if you want. If it works exactly as said in the patch notes, it would be possible to set the rank to the lowest allowed for a zone and then go in alone as a VA and wreck the place for your trophy. I actually rather like doing that with Klingon Scout Force. Feels a bit exploitish, but the rewards are junk mk II gear, and with the queue system I'm not screwing random lowbies out of loot.

    Plus you feel like a complete badass flying into a mass of enemy and hitting fire at will and watch them all explode. I used to do that with noob level DSEs just for laughs.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That right there is the reason I love cruisers. If they ever give something other than the Excelsior a tac LTC I'll be all over it.

    Which is honestly what I'd like to see in the new Enterprise. Take the excelsior and make the ensign science. Even if the stardrive section (assuming they do keep the saucer separation idea) is slower than the Galaxy-R there would have to be some weird quirk to the ship to keep it from becoming my dream cruiser.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    1.8 levels to go for a shiny new ship! Have to stop to make dinner.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid I don my top hat, and adjust my monocle, Like a god damn sir.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Is there anyway to respec boffs? I kinda fucked up at the start and there are a ton of wasted points on them. I figured out what I was doing right around when I hit Lt. Cmdr 1, but yeah, I really screwed up during my first 10 levels.

    I'll reroll if I have to, but yeah, my boffs are all messed up atm.

  • jamesrajamesra Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Is there anyway to respec boffs? I kinda fucked up at the start and there are a ton of wasted points on them. I figured out what I was doing right around when I hit Lt. Cmdr 1, but yeah, I really screwed up during my first 10 levels.

    I'll reroll if I have to, but yeah, my boffs are all messed up atm.

    There isn't, but there isn't really any reason to. The dynamics of the game make it such that by mid game you'll be gaining vast numbers of BOFF points; you'll be able to fully skill up all of them by the time you

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  • jamesrajamesra Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Is there anyway to respec boffs? I kinda fucked up at the start and there are a ton of wasted points on them. I figured out what I was doing right around when I hit Lt. Cmdr 1, but yeah, I really screwed up during my first 10 levels.

    I'll reroll if I have to, but yeah, my boffs are all messed up atm.

    There isn't, but there isn't really any reason to. The dynamics of the game make it such that by mid game you'll be gaining vast numbers of BOFF points; you'll be able to fully skill up all of them by the time you hit the Admiral levels.

    Or do you mean a way to retrain them? You can change their skills. Common skills can be purchased for merits (yet another currency and yes, the game has far to many) at ESD and some other places. Other skills can be trained by green, blue, or purple BOFFs, or by captains of the right rank and skill. The fleet is relatively quiet now, because we're in a fallow period, but if you ask around in fleet chat you'll usually be able to find someone to train your off-track BOFFs for you.

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  • GaryOGaryO Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hevach wrote: »
    That might actually make the crystalline entity doable.


    Man, I was in a group that had it down. 5%, everything under control... then some random chucklefuck zones in, hits evasive maneuvers, and ploughs through the middle of the fight with scatter volley firing. Boom, CE heals back up into phase 2 and all hope is lost.

    Not sure if the CE would be soloable even with the level turned down, but at the very least, a prepared and organized fleet with a private instance would easily be able to manage it. It's not a difficult fight, just long, unintuitive, and requires everybody on board. Pretty much a raid boss from any MMO at heart. Exactly the sort of thing they should have implemented as an STF, not a fleet action.

    I managed the CE once about a year ago when their was lots of people trying to do it. It was quite tedious and full of people spamming the chat window with conflicting ideas about what to do and yelling at people to stop doing what they were doing. I think by the time the CE went down I had about 30 shards following me and the other 3 or 4 kiters each, while everyone else stood to one side and peppered it with lots and lots of phasers
    We were lucky because there were two guys who appeared to be equipped with nothing but mines that were setting up the worlds biggest minefield and trying to get shards to run into it. There was a lot of yelling at them to stop laying mines everywhere as it made kiting the shards a right pain!

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid I don my top hat, and adjust my monocle, Like a god damn sir.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    jamesra wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Is there anyway to respec boffs? I kinda fucked up at the start and there are a ton of wasted points on them. I figured out what I was doing right around when I hit Lt. Cmdr 1, but yeah, I really screwed up during my first 10 levels.

    I'll reroll if I have to, but yeah, my boffs are all messed up atm.

    There isn't, but there isn't really any reason to. The dynamics of the game make it such that by mid game you'll be gaining vast numbers of BOFF points; you'll be able to fully skill up all of them by the time you hit the Admiral levels.

    Or do you mean a way to retrain them? You can change their skills. Common skills can be purchased for merits (yet another currency and yes, the game has far to many) at ESD and some other places. Other skills can be trained by green, blue, or purple BOFFs, or by captains of the right rank and skill. The fleet is relatively quiet now, because we're in a fallow period, but if you ask around in fleet chat you'll usually be able to find someone to train your off-track BOFFs for you.

    Neato-o, I was just kinda annoyed with myself since I had wasted a ton of points on them while I was still getting the hang of the game and am now playing catchup with my boffs.

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