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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MyDcmbr wrote: »
    Yeah I got that same email.

    Funny thing is, I got it last month too and already had to do the password change. lol

    That was Cryptic that sent it before, and they changed the Cryptic passwords.

    This is Atari now, who no longer is connected with Cryptic, but was at the time.

    I would imagine that when Cryptic was sold, the accounts were severed from Atari's system, but Atari still has everyone listed as a customer, because why wouldn't they?

    So Cryptic informed everyone way late, and changed the passwords on the Cryptic accounts, and Atari informed everyone a month later than that and changed the Atari passwords.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    Fartacus_the_MightyFartacus_the_Mighty Brought to you by the letter A.Registered User regular
    So apparently Klingons are getting their shit ruined in PvP by Fed carriers, due to runabouts spamming Tractor Beam. Cryptic's response to this, naturally, is to buff the d-store pets' Tractor Beam.

    The forum whining is exquisite.

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Seems somewhat relevant:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=269510
    Roach wrote:
    Evidently our fandom and desires blinded us to the truth that the IP has no room for us, nor the MMO and when we where cut loose at launch we should have followed the actions of other long gone Klingon fans and just walked away secure that the game would not ever have a true level of play for us becuase we could never convince both the Devs or the feds to see it happen.

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    TalonSETalonSE Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Roach single-handedly gives the KDF a bad name on those forums. That he thinks the devs are out to get Klingon players due to their neverending whining is quite paranoid. Cryptic's actual motives are clear, they'll do anything for money and there are a lot more Feds to milk than Klinks.

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    Isn't that possibly because you have to start as a Federation character and make it to level 20 before becoming a Klingon? Why don't they give you the option at the beginning to pick one or the other?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Roach also likes to take things ridiculously out of context. And when simply out of context isn't enough to make things sound worse than they are, he simply alters them, or makes something up. He did this so aggressively with the last ship designer that he was most likely directly responsible for him closing his twitter account - it disappeared a few hours after Roach posted two altered and one fake quote from it to imply that the Bortas was being delayed indefinitely so that the Odyssey could get an extra hull material, when the actual quote was that a texture glitch on the Bortas would be fixed right after the Odyssey's hull materials were hooked up. He also was responsible for the tier 3 advanced ship "controversy" and the 18% number was his invention. That at least two devs reused it before they finally thought to check themselves is only evidence of how good a troll the guy is.

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    Fartacus_the_MightyFartacus_the_Mighty Brought to you by the letter A.Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Isn't that possibly because you have to start as a Federation character and make it to level 20 before becoming a Klingon? Why don't they give you the option at the beginning to pick one or the other?

    Short answer: New players wouldn't know WTF is going on.

    Long answer: New players wouldn't know WTF is going on because Cryptic starts you at level 20, dumps a bunch of gear on you, and says "have fun" with no tutorial.

    Cryptic could make a Klingon tutorial and 1-20 content, which would allow a new player to start as a Klingon, but that would require work. Work which would take away from making new shinies for lockboxes and the C-store.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    they'd need a couple lower tiers of ships for them. Aren't the current lv 20 klingon ships the oldest ones already?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    they'd need a couple lower tiers of ships for them. Aren't the current lv 20 klingon ships the oldest ones already?

    The old tier 1 BoP is still there (same model as the retrofit anyway), you just can't get it anymore, and if I remember right you actually start with the LTC BoP and get the promotion to commander in the runaround at the start to let you pick your commander ship. I'm prety sure the LTC ships are available for Dilithium if you just have to have a K'tanco or something.

    All they'd really need is tier 2 +1 ships and maybe a tier 1 +1 light something-or-other to fill some gaps, but even that I don't know - by virtue of having more ship lines, their ship grid is heavier at tier 3-4 than the Fed's to make up for the sparse tier 1-2.

    If my figures are right (spoiler for long):
    Rank: Fed ships, KDF ships
    LT: 4, 1
    LTC: 6, 3
    CM: 6, 9
    CPT: 6, 9
    RA: 9,7
    VA*: 7, 4
    T1-4 totals: 22, 22
    T5 totals: 16, 11

    Also, universal console ships:
    LT: 2, 0
    LTC: 3,0
    CM: 3, 6
    CPT: 3, 6
    Total: 11, 12

    *-counting flagships as a single class. Also there's a couple ships I can't remember if their RA or VA, but I'm confident in the T5 totals
    None of this is counting cross faction ships or shuttles.

    so the KDF ship disparity is really at tier 5, where they're outnumbered by almost half. They have one more universal console ship than Fed, or equal if you count the blue phasers on the TOS Connie (they're lucky enough I counted the grappler). Overall light at tiers 1-2, but much more diverse at tiers 3-4, and almost equal taken as a whole... until tier 5.

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    What tier 3 ship controversy?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    The tier 3 Excelsior and Nebula used to just be 250k EC purchases with no special powers or particularly interesting features (the Excelsior had a larger crew and a couple transwarps, the Nebula had higher hull and lower turn rate and a universal ensign). They were upgraded to +1 ships with the extra slots and universal console treatment, and put on the C-store. People who had bought them and still had them in their ship list got the upgrade and even the consoles for free, but couldn't reclaim them from the C-store or get them on other characters (same as people who'd bought the various T5 ships for 500 emblems).

    The controversy is that several people claimed they'd already bought the ship on the C-store and no longer could claim it, and managed to convince a lot of people that something they'd paid for was now gone. Roach specifically tricked a "dev" (the community manager, specifically) into saying people who'd bought the 2000 CP bundles or 400 CP T3 ships would get the +1 versions on the C-store unlock as well... the catch being that those items never existed to begin with. But that didn't stop people from clamoring for the 400/2000 CP "refunds" on purchases they'd "lost" in the S5 patch. The sheer amount of stupid and hate that controversy (and a couple other intentional false alarms) put on the forums made it a lot harder to ask for fair deals on other FTP related changes.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDGElIeFdbs

    This week's STOked goes over this month's Ask Cryptic with the duo chatting about it giving their take on one or two of recent complaints.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    I just built my first escort tonight when i reached Rear Admiral, Lower. Bought a Fleet Escort, have only ever done cruisers.

    I think I have it set up pretty well and I'm finding it a lot of fun. The feeling of powering up all your weapons and just completely punching a hole in a ship's shields and then blowing it up extremely quickly is pretty good.

    Are you the magic man?
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    hazywaterhazywater Registered User regular
    Escorts/BoPs and carriers are great, loads of fun. Cruisers are a more refined taste, for those with calm patience

    Hrin - Eve Online
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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    hazywater wrote: »
    Escorts/BoPs and carriers are great, loads of fun. Cruisers are a more refined taste, for those with calm patience

    I've always thought they're more visually impressive in battle, too. Things happen slower in them (both winning and losing) but they also happen more gracefully. In an escort, things happen quickly and excitingly but with all the grace of a sledgehammer through a china cabinet, and depending on exactly what you're set up for. And science vessels are great for fans of those one-off deflector shenanigans the writers like to pull out of their ass once and never think to use again when they'd be useful. Just all the time.

    On the other hand, blowing something to hell with a massive alpha strike and then hitting evasive maneuvers to fly through the explosion as it dies is a kind of badass only escorts get to know.

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    InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    You have to realize the STO forums are full of crazy. Thinking they're just really persistent trolls is just wishful thinking. They're true believers and they're batshit. They're the kind of people who call 911 because they saw the mailman looking in their mailbox three days ago.

    It doesn't help that the community manager is ineffective and they don't stamp out this kind of behavior and one of the developers goes out of his way to troll the community.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    What's the best way to level? I just dinged commander

    Should I just keep running episodes?

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    What's the best way to level? I just dinged commander

    Should I just keep running episodes?

    Running episodes for the most part is the best way to get xp.
    Watch for the mirror events and queue for them, you can get some good xp that way.
    Borg events can give some good xp as well, but tend to be a lot harder in my experience (B'Ger is a brutal fight that needs a lot of luck even with a good team, with a bad one it's just about suicide).
    Make sure your DOffs are kept busy, they may not provide a huge amount of xp compared to the mission bonuses, but it's pretty good for the couple of minutes it takes to send them out.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Is there a way to use my cstore dollars in champions online in STO? they used to be a shared currency, either they aren't anymore or something's up, and I'm confused why it arbitrarily decided to dump my atari tokens into just champions online

    Edit: and I can't figure this out, if I subscribe will I get anything, since I preordered STO and played it for a month at retail, or are they only for total subscribed time?

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    Fartacus_the_MightyFartacus_the_Mighty Brought to you by the letter A.Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Is there a way to use my cstore dollars in champions online in STO? they used to be a shared currency, either they aren't anymore or something's up, and I'm confused why it arbitrarily decided to dump my atari tokens into just champions online

    Edit: and I can't figure this out, if I subscribe will I get anything, since I preordered STO and played it for a month at retail, or are they only for total subscribed time?

    C-points which you buy with real dollars are shared. Any c-points "bought" using Dilithium (or Questionite in CO) are bound to that game. Additionally, any points you receive as a subscription perk are locked to that game. If you resubscribe you will get whatever the ordinary subscription benefits are (which, TBH, are rather lackluster right now). If you're talking about veteran bonuses, those are based on total subscribed time.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Aww thats lame, I got some perk for 800 days old account and was like "ooh ill sub to get the rewards"

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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    What's the best way to level? I just dinged commander

    Should I just keep running episodes?

    Running episodes for the most part is the best way to get xp.
    Watch for the mirror events and queue for them, you can get some good xp that way.
    Borg events can give some good xp as well, but tend to be a lot harder in my experience (B'Ger is a brutal fight that needs a lot of luck even with a good team, with a bad one it's just about suicide).
    Make sure your DOffs are kept busy, they may not provide a huge amount of xp compared to the mission bonuses, but it's pretty good for the couple of minutes it takes to send them out.

    One tip I didn't find out about in regards to bger until recently is that the plasma bolt aoe will damage it.

    Managed to solo one event by just sitting in front of the firing port and watching each plasma bolt take off half bgers health.

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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    What's the best way to level? I just dinged commander

    Should I just keep running episodes?

    Running episodes for the most part is the best way to get xp.
    Watch for the mirror events and queue for them, you can get some good xp that way.
    Borg events can give some good xp as well, but tend to be a lot harder in my experience (B'Ger is a brutal fight that needs a lot of luck even with a good team, with a bad one it's just about suicide).
    Make sure your DOffs are kept busy, they may not provide a huge amount of xp compared to the mission bonuses, but it's pretty good for the couple of minutes it takes to send them out.

    When you hit 50 and you have a ship totally tricked out with STF gear, the Borg space events are so easy its silly. In siege mode. my Goomba Destroyer was tanking tactical cubes and probably could have cleared the initial forces solo. Last time I took on B'Ger, I didn't die a single time. For the 2nd half of it's health bar, I just cruised along the hull back and forth. I would hit the jav just as I started to lose my shields and fly clear before it could kill me. I could be wrong here, but those plasma balls don't seem to follow you if you are up close on the top. In fact, the AI in STO tends to have trouble thinking in the z axis.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    The only thing keeping me from playing this game more often is the lack of an Ambassador class. They promised me one so long ago.

    (Switch Friend Code) SW-4910-9735-6014(PSN) timspork (Steam) timspork (XBox) Timspork


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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Man..so I just hit 50 on KDF side (The joys of Re-Featured series giving me an incentive) and apparently they don't snag a couple of respec tokens during the level up like I did on my Fed? No wonder KDF feel like second class citizens, they really are.


    Carriers are super fun though :)

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    Man..so I just hit 50 on KDF side (The joys of Re-Featured series giving me an incentive) and apparently they don't snag a couple of respec tokens during the level up like I did on my Fed? No wonder KDF feel like second class citizens, they really are.


    Carriers are super fun though :)

    They get respec tokens at every rank (even back tokens from the higher level they start at). Free respec tokens at every rank are just for subscribers, though.

    Are you the magic man?
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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Man..so I just hit 50 on KDF side (The joys of Re-Featured series giving me an incentive) and apparently they don't snag a couple of respec tokens during the level up like I did on my Fed? No wonder KDF feel like second class citizens, they really are.


    Carriers are super fun though :)

    You should have seen carriers before they reduced the number of craft they could launch. They would auto dock when combat was over, but a good carrier commander could regularly get everything out. It was a sight to see with photonic fleet and a team of buddies.

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Frei wrote: »
    Snip

    They get respec tokens at every rank (even back tokens from the higher level they start at). Free respec tokens at every rank are just for subscribers, though.

    Huh. I wonder where those 2 tokens came from then...weird.

    More ships out? Damn that sounds insane, no wonder they got nerfed...

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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    I just got a survey for STO in my email. Somehow, I think these were not the answers they were looking for.

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    mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    2. If you purchased one and not the other - why?
    I purchased a key for a Gold Cardassian box, and got nothing worthwhile for it. After that I realized the whole thing was a scam preying on gullibility and compulsive gambling. I'll never buy another key.

    4. What is your opinion of the items in the LOBI store?
    I've seen the items list. For GPL some of it would be neat, but for real money, and money based on a gambling mechanic? Yea, right.

    5. What changes to the LOBI store would make you more likely to purchase lock boxes?
    If they came with hand jobs.

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    mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    For the record, I'm not bitter about lock boxes. Nope. Not even a little bit.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    Who wants a hand job, though?

    Are you the magic man?
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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Frei wrote: »
    Who wants a hand job, though?

    My character has claws. So, clawjob?

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    What IS the LOBI store, anyway?

    I see you guys mentioning it, but I haven't been paying attention.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Fyndir wrote: »
    What IS the LOBI store, anyway?

    I see you guys mentioning it, but I haven't been paying attention.

    Opening a Ferengi Lockbox gives out both it's random item and a special tradeable item called a Lobi Crystal. To trade in the Crystals for special items, there's a merchant at Drozana Station.

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    Oh, I see, it's because we just didn't have enough currencies already.

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    MordrackMordrack Registered User regular
    There are far less currencies now than there used to be.

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    mellestad wrote: »
    2. If you purchased one and not the other - why?
    I purchased a key for a Gold Cardassian box, and got nothing worthwhile for it. After that I realized the whole thing was a scam preying on gullibility and compulsive gambling. I'll never buy another key.

    4. What is your opinion of the items in the LOBI store?
    I've seen the items list. For GPL some of it would be neat, but for real money, and money based on a gambling mechanic? Yea, right.

    5. What changes to the LOBI store would make you more likely to purchase lock boxes?
    If they came with hand jobs.

    Laughed way to hard.

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    kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Mordrack wrote: »
    There are far less currencies now than there used to be.

    Well, that depends how you count currencies. Arguably the current count could go up to 26 different currencies, counting the STF crap.

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    MordrackMordrack Registered User regular
    kafziel wrote: »
    Mordrack wrote: »
    There are far less currencies now than there used to be.

    Well, that depends how you count currencies. Arguably the current count could go up to 26 different currencies, counting the STF crap.
    Well in ye olden days there were separate pvp, pve, and exploration currencies for all ranks.

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