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Google+ - Will it spark interest or run around in circles?

AlegisAlegis ImpeckableRegistered User regular
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What is it:
GoogleBook, or MyGoogle or Googlester - Google+ is Google's attempt to control more of your data provide more social networking opportunities show more ads in your face to people worldwide.

It's still closed beta but they've revealed a bunch of vids on their approach and there's a list you can sign to find out if you ever get an invite.

Interactive fancy demo + "PUT ME ON THE INVITE LIST, DAMN IT!"-link
http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/demo/

How to Import FB contacts via a middleservice

How to post to a FB status from google+

There's an exploit to invite people into google+ by adding their e-mail to a circle and then send a message to that circle. Seems to work sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Results may vary.

If you got android, check out the google+ client in market.


google+: DESIRES AND HOPES: INCARNATE

So google seems to have learned from the Buzz disaster and try to flaunt with a system with a simple interface and easier limited sharing options. Google already owns your data anyways. Why not trust them? It's perfect!
You can probably expect good mobile support.

ars technica's take on the project

In this thread we pray to the Google Gods to send out invitations


List of people you can add to your PA circle and share your deepest secrets with:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=144504

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo When life gives you lemons... ...eat your delicious lemonsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This is the third attempt at social network type stuff from Google isn't it?

    But we had buzz (twitter) and google wave (very slow email and/or facebook groups). Was there something before Wave? I think there was.

    In short: I don't know what the problem is that google are trying to fix. And I think this is why their products don't succeed in this sphere.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    I like the look of the Huddle group messaging feature. It's such a pain sending texts to a large amount of people and having replies that only you can see.

    Also, the circle feature for refining things down is something Facebook has been missing from the start. Every complaint I hear about Facebook revolves around people not posting anything because they don't want X family member, Y co-worker or Z dog to see it.

    Something that's designed from the ground-up with that in mind can only be a good thing.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan Gaderen PSN: GaderenRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    if the main thing they are marketing is better privacy controls, don't think it's going to go to well for them because cool people don't care about privacy. And you can't win social networking without cool people.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    the problem google is trying to fix is that they want some of that advertising cookie space

    Although limited sharing is present in FB (friend groups, select privacy option when sharing something) seems better integrated in google+ and we can likely count on them to be more clear with the different privacy settings this time.

  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Be it better or not, I just think FaceBook has won the weight of numbers war that means it can never be ousted.

    Generalising here, but your Mum already has a Facebook. She isn't going to be signing up to another service any time soon.

    If FB has any sense they'll just wholesale steal all the good interface ideas Google come up with.

  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    But we had buzz (twitter) and google wave (very slow email and/or facebook groups). Was there something before Wave? I think there was.
    I had to look it up, orkut and google Knol for a 'sort of social wiki'

    never really got off the ground

  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Put me on the list for any PA invites.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This looks awesome and I want in ASAP.

    I actually signed up at this link: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googleplusenuk/

    and now Im worried thats a fake since it doesnt match the invite request thingy above.

    But since it only asked my name and e-mail, and I use the two step authentication, I dont think they can do anything anyways.

    Either way - I never have joined Facebook. I want in on this. This looks taylored to what I want.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    mxmarks wrote: »
    This looks awesome and I want in ASAP.

    I actually signed up at this link: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googleplusenuk/

    and now Im worried thats a fake since it doesnt match the invite request thingy above.

    But since it only asked my name and e-mail, and I use the two step authentication, I dont think they can do anything anyways.

    Either way - I never have joined Facebook. I want in on this. This looks taylored to what I want.

    It's https with the google domain name. I'm pretty sure its just as authentic.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    the certificate from services.google.com matches so it's most likely not fake.

  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Awesome!

    In that case I have signed up twice.

    So hopefully I get an invite in double the speed!

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    This is the third attempt at social network type stuff from Google isn't it?

    But we had buzz (twitter) and google wave (very slow email and/or facebook groups). Was there something before Wave? I think there was.

    In short: I don't know what the problem is that google are trying to fix. And I think this is why their products don't succeed in this sphere.

    Their earlier one is still around, is big in some countries (Brazil in particular), but is one they purchased instead of developing in-house - Orkut.

    As far as what Google+ is fixing, I think the answer is "privacy." I'm in the closed beta and while it's hard to judge with so few people that I actually know using it, it seems to have gotten the concept of having a fluid manner in which you show some things to some people and not to others down pat. You can define any number of "circles" which overlap with one another in any manner you deep appropriate, and anytime you share something in your stream (links, photos, comments, whatever), you choose which circles/people can have access to it. Additionally, it errs on the side of privacy instead of public - for example, unlike Facebook, you can designate who's actually allowed to tag you in pictures, and you can require authorization before the tag appears. And you can make it so only certain circles can see the tags and...well, you get the point.

    I think that some of the names (Sparks in particular seems...off) could use some tweaking, they need to introduce some shortcuts for "common" behavior (for example, there's no method to 'private message' someone from their profile - you have to go to your stream and make a comment that only they can see), and it completely lacks any sort of bulletin board system on a person's profile which I think is something they'll need to fix in order to not drive people away who really enjoy that feature of Facebook (perhaps something which defaults to the profile owner either authorizing posts before they appear or permitting certain circles to post with impunity).

    I haven't been able to poke around with some of the features due to lack of friends with webcams and such, so I can't comment on them. I question whether I'll use some of the features, but for the core product, it's basically.....well, it's Facebook minus all the distasteful things about Facebook that have been bugging me with all their privacy updates (and you can save photos from it!), plus the idle paranoia that Google knows everything about me.


    e: Oh, and this is also a competitor for Twitter, by the by. One of the default circles is "Following" - you can add people to circles without them adding you, and if you have them in your Following circle, you'll see stuff in their Public stream in your feed. It's rather seamless.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I like Google, but I'm not interested in social networking in this sense. I kind of liked Wave or Buzz as they seemed like they could be different, but if it is a product aimed at matching or replicating FB, then I am not interested. If I was, I'd sign up to FB.

    I guess I could try for Beta to see what the attraction is though and the demo does look pretty slick though, so kudos there.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Better privacy controls (circles) + no annoying spam from facebook apps has me interested in this.

    I don't think it will necessarily be a hard sale, but they won't kill FB quickly, if at all.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Kalkino wrote: »
    I like Google, but I'm not interested in social networking in this sense. I kind of liked Wave or Buzz as they seemed like they could be different, but if it is a product aimed at matching or replicating FB, then I am not interested. If I was, I'd sign up to FB.

    I guess I could try for Beta to see what the attraction is though and the demo does look pretty slick though, so kudos there.

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    In some respects, I think I'd be a lot happier if this just muddles along rather than actually becomes successful.

  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Be it better or not, I just think FaceBook has won the weight of numbers war that means it can never be ousted.

    Generalising here, but your Mum already has a Facebook. She isn't going to be signing up to another service any time soon.

    If FB has any sense they'll just wholesale steal all the good interface ideas Google come up with.

    This is actually facebooks big weakness right now, yes your mum has a facebook account that she logs into once a month however do kids really want to be on the same networks as their parents and uncles sharing all their drunk photos there. Facebook won't fall from being beaten, it will fall from being too big.

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  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    If FB was still for students and not a clever ad-distribution method, able to target millions of people worldwide... I would still use FB.

    I have a hard time seeing a social network being anything else going forward, whatever UI you put on it. I liked the idea to start with, but for some reason it didn't stick.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I can verify that invites are going out to people who weren't specifically invited by google employees now.

    My sister just got an account.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Color me very interested in this. I would love a social network with better privacy controls.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    A friend's mom was talking about how she disliked Facebook's all or nothing means of posting and following updates.

    Google+'s Circles is pretty cool and seems like a nice solution to that. I'll give it a spin.

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  • JollusJollus Registered User
    edited June 2011
    Really looking forward to getting in on this. I hear users are getting invites to hand out, so hopefully we'll start seeing those trickle into the various forums around the web.

    I am so keyed into google for the other services they offer that it will be nice to keep it all under one roof. The only thing I am not so hot on is the new black Nav bar at the top of all the pages. Would much rather have it white, but that is such a small issue...

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah, invites are in place and are going out, but....well, you know. Real name, Internet people I don't really know, etc.

    Hopefully it'll filter around soon enough.

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  • Mega PlayboyMega Playboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Should we try to bring back the Gmail chain invites? I remember that working pretty well here for when Gmail was invite only.

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  • The DeliveratorThe Deliverator Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Everyone who is in gets unlimited invites. And I just happen to be in. I could probably invite some people if some of you wanted to get in.

    Just post your email, and I'll invite you.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    edit: doot
    And I made a search engine for Google+ with CSE: http://www.mkronline.com/googleplus/

    Saves having to type in site: all the time.

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  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • Mega PlayboyMega Playboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    If you dont mind: shadakul(at)gmail.com or getsome49(at)hotmail.com.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    I'm really itching to try this thing out. Beta invites are like a drug to me!

  • The DeliveratorThe Deliverator Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Invites should be sent. Enjoy!

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • LindenLinden Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well, they seem to have learned from their past issues with distribution. Clever way around the Buzz issues.

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  • Golf153Golf153 Registered User
    edited June 2011
    I'm impressed with the video part.

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  • HoundxHoundx Registered User
    edited June 2011
    Got it, thanks!

  • Mega PlayboyMega Playboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Thank you Captain Cactus And The Water Preservation Squad for the invite sent one to houndx. Who want to touch the google+ experience?

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'd love an invite if you're still sending them out.

    Edit - Nevermind, got an invite. Thanks!

  • JollusJollus Registered User
    edited June 2011
  • The DeliveratorThe Deliverator Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Sorry everyone. It looks like they turned them off. The invite button is gone for me.

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  • Mega PlayboyMega Playboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Same here I will try in the morning. Let me know if you get a invite so I can pass the love to someone else.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So will G+ work out better than Wave or Buzz?

    Whats the feeling out there? From reading everything it just sounds like they are setting up fancy ways of doing mailing lists with friends and groups. Does it offer anything new that regular people will use?

    Regular is the important part. Stuff like Wave and Buzz were wonderful for a small subset of geeks but Facebook spans grandmothers to the programming elite. What can G+ offer the people who don't even know what the internet is but have a Facebook account so they can look at cat pictures send by other family members and write happy birthday wall posts to people they dont even know?

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