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[Phalla] The Renaissance of Phalla (Tie Game)

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Wandering Hero and ShadowThomas are also worth looking at, for this and this, which seemed like an attempt to tie Elldren / Lemming, and precipitating Savant stepping in.

    You know, considering the vigilante killed Void, we'd still be asking questions about Elldren today had the mafia not acted to create that 3rd place tie in an attempt to smoke Egos by vote to defeat the guard they probably believed to be in place. They really got played last night.

    :)

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Ragamuffin Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Ell was pretty blatantly mafia by the end.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'm going to !vote Element Brian for now, while I kick around this Feckless angle.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Ell was pretty blatantly mafia by the end.

    By the end? hehehe

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  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    We definitely have inactive/barely-active players.

    Also, I'd agree that ShadowThomas' style and choice of votes has me wondering about him. That vote for Elldren actually brought about a Tie between Elldren and LemmingHead--while we had been, for days, trying to avoid ties. (The back-to-back Elldren votes from Wandering Hero and ShadowThomas brought Elldren up.)

    Thing is, what does that accomplish?

  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Ell was pretty blatantly mafia by the end.

    Yeah, it was pretty clear that the two of them wouldn't survive past today.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    LaOs wrote: »
    We definitely have inactive/barely-active players.

    Also, I'd agree that ShadowThomas' style and choice of votes has me wondering about him. That vote for Elldren actually brought about a Tie between Elldren and LemmingHead--while we had been, for days, trying to avoid ties. (The back-to-back Elldren votes from Wandering Hero and ShadowThomas brought Elldren up.)

    Thing is, what does that accomplish?

    If you believe the narrative that the Farangu/Thom/Egos play was a late-day decision by the mafia to kill their own while trickling the vote over someone they suspected of being guarded, then attempts to create a tie for 1-2 would have drawn some votes out of the bottom tier. A tie is easier to create if you only need to move one or two votes around to create it, and if most of the active votes are concentrated at the top to prevent Bloody Sunday shenanigans from happening a second time, the Elldren/LH tie vote orchestration is easier to pull off.

    It really was a pretty amazing day. :)

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Remember Elldren had been inexplicably bucking for a 1-2 tie vote from early on, and that post particularly stood out to me, because he tried to intentionally move the conversation past "should we tie" and onto "who will we tie" before the 'should we' part had been decided.

    Also, I find this comment extra funny, in light of the result...

    ... and this one illustrates just how cold-blooded the game can be.

    Edited! Bad links before.

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  • ArasakiArasaki Registered User
    edited July 2011
    I was at a wedding Saturday, and fell asleep due to three days of partying the following day.

    This is actually pretty standard play for me, I just need to survive long enough to drunk post now.

    I might get drunk one day and fall in love or fall over a hooker outside, and I would have consummated a relationship that I couldn't necessarily believe in.
  • TehSlothTehSloth Functional But HammeredRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Ack, sorry I missed last night guys, friend of a friends 21st. Not that I've been hugely important thus far, but it looks like things went pretty well.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    man, what a great night.

    It's pretty common to have a large share of inactives in a big game, because it's easier to get lost in the mix, and it can be intimidating to say anything at all if you are new or worried about looking falsely suspicious. It's still worth looking into, though.

    You also have to weigh the fact that specials will be tending towards inactivity as well, so be careful. (in my first large phalla, I was a vig who killed one of the village win conditions on accident, because he was pretty inactive. oops)

  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah, unfortunately that's always the problem--Good Specials often appear the same as Mafia, hiding amongst the inactives and barely-actives.

    Like I said earlier, I think it's also important to keep in mind who appears to actually be paying attention to and following the thread, even though their post count is low.

  • TeucrianTeucrian Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Holy shit, that was awesome.

    This is two straight days of narration commentary by Chamberlain that set off my mafiadar.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    I've got nothing.

  • FecklessRogueFecklessRogue Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    It is a little too quiet in here today considering we have all those awesome vote records. Looking at yesterday, by post 1021 by Arasaki the mafia had to assume the wagon on Lemminghead was too big to derail. But earlier, before the wagon picked up steam, a couple other options got pushed: LaOS (Baidol, Drez) and Farangu (simonwolf, Cythraul).

    Looking at their vote records, Simonwolf seems the most like a mafia. He posted a lot on the first day to up his post count and then went into silent mode once the game really began. But of the four people eventually on that wagon (Simonwolf, Cythraul, mafiaVoid Slayer and Myself), two people switched off which allowed the super tie to kill Farangu.

    Those two people are mafiaVoid Slayer a couple hours before and Cythraul just one hour before. Hence why I think Cythraul.

  • ArasakiArasaki Registered User
    edited July 2011
    !FecklessRogue for putting "the mafia" next to my name.

    And with that, sleep.

    I might get drunk one day and fall in love or fall over a hooker outside, and I would have consummated a relationship that I couldn't necessarily believe in.
  • FecklessRogueFecklessRogue Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Since editing posts is bad form, let me make it clear I DON'T THINK ARASAKI IS MAFIA.

    That line should read "By Arasaki's post at 1021, the Mafia had to conclude the wagon..."

    Sorry about that. =P

  • SavantSavant Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    There's someone here who I think is pretty blatantly obviously mafia, and I'll be very surprised if they don't turn up mafia when they die. Any guesses as to who that is before they get completely dogpiled?

  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Since editing posts is bad form, let me make it clear I DON'T THINK ARASAKI IS MAFIA.

    That line should read "By Arasaki's post at 1021, the Mafia had to conclude the wagon..."

    Sorry about that. =P

    That's how I read it.


    ... on my second read-through, since I first also thought you were calling out Arasaki as Mafia. :P

  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Savant wrote: »
    There's someone here who I think is pretty blatantly obviously mafia, and I'll be very surprised if they don't turn up mafia when they die. Any guesses as to who that is before they get completely dogpiled?

    Well, I'm pretty sure it's not you. I know it's not me.

    Is it Element Brian? spool32 has pretty much summed up my suspicions of him nicely.

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    I was kind of hoping there might be more action today in the thread, since I don't really have any real strong suspicions myself (thus the much lower post-count from me today).

    I know I just created a tie for 1st between FecklessRogue and Element Brian, but I'm certain that won't stand and, should it come to it, I can withdraw or change my vote to make sure we don't have the tie at the end of the day.

    Really, though, I was hoping for some more discussion. Oh well. (still 8 hours left anyway)

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    LaOs wrote: »
    Savant wrote: »
    There's someone here who I think is pretty blatantly obviously mafia, and I'll be very surprised if they don't turn up mafia when they die. Any guesses as to who that is before they get completely dogpiled?

    Well, I'm pretty sure it's not you. I know it's not me.

    Is it Element Brian? spool32 has pretty much summed up my suspicions of him nicely.

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    I was kind of hoping there might be more action today in the thread, since I don't really have any real strong suspicions myself (thus the much lower post-count from me today).

    I know I just created a tie for 1st between FecklessRogue and Element Brian, but I'm certain that won't stand and, should it come to it, I can withdraw or change my vote to make sure we don't have the tie at the end of the day.

    Really, though, I was hoping for some more discussion. Oh well. (still 8 hours left anyway)

    I don't trust Element Brian, myself, so there's your tiebreaker.

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  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    There we go!

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off. Escape while you can.Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    With only 8 votes in, I would not be too concerned about ties just yet.

  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Baidol wrote: »
    With only 8 votes in, I would not be too concerned about ties just yet.

    True, we have 32 people left to vote (and just over 7 hours for it). We can expect probably about 8 people not to vote again, as that's roughly the average of non-voters through Days 1-4.

    The most notable of the non-voters would have to be Fiaryn--1 vote on Day 1, not a single vote since. (He voted for himself and hasn't been seen since...)

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Fiaryn is being uncharacteristically quiet, but he's probably going to get inactivused soon (I would hope anyway given he hasn't posted since day 1).

    There are several others like this, Element brian stands out to me as well, classic barely there behaviour: day 1 vote, missed vote, placeholder vote right after narration, missed vote, 1 word vote for one of the more likely villagers

    Zandracon is unusually active, posting more than just a vote!

  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I loathe inactivity.

    Thus, my wrath is fully directed at Fiaryn.

    Yeah, I'm not super active either. But I vote.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Eh, I agree, but this is incredibly unlike him and there's no point in voting out someone who really ought to be getting eaten soon anyway

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Voting Fiaryn is a throwaway vote...

    Suspicious.

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  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I honestly believe that if Lady Eri was going to cull players for inactivity, the axe would have fallen on a few already.

  • SavantSavant Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah, we shouldn't be focusing on the totally inactives until the mafia starts neglecting to send in orders entirely. Semi-actives can be fair game though.

  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'm easily swayed.

    Fiaryn

    Of everyone else, Cythraul has the best argument against him. I'll wait to see where the Element Brian bandwagon goes before I chime in on that.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Ragamuffin Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Fecklessss

    or Cythraullllll

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  • SavantSavant Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'll tell you my choice for bandwagon prime when I check back a little later. My sense is that the mafia will be a bit more cautious after losing such a big chunk of their numbers last night.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    Cliff. Hanger.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
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  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    I hope you return soon Savant.

    I need to sleep.

    Because of an uncharacteristically low posting rate: !ShadowThomas.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    People I also suspect:
    DUE, Brian, Feckless.

  • Lady EriLady Eri Registered User
    edited July 2011
    I don't suppose it is changing the rules if I never made an inactivity rule. Anyone who doesn't have at least three posts by the end of tomorrow dies.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I still like Turkson for mafia.

    You haven't given me a reason to steer clear of you!
  • ShadowThomasShadowThomas Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'm ok with the Element Brian vote, though I suspect that Savant will suspect someone else later.

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