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Transhumanist Conundrums - Updated weekly or whenever I feel like it

ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User
edited July 2011 in Singularity Engine++
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In this thread I shall pose thought provoking questions on various topics that are linked to the transhumanist ideology.

Today's (8/6) question:

Would you resurrect a loved one through one of the following hypothetical technologies?

(A) Personality Reconstruction

He or She will be created by an artificial intelligence based on the following:
  • Your and others memories of them (will be directly scanned by the A.I and analysed by it, removing any incongruities and taking personal inclinations/thoughts towards the ressurectée into account)
  • Their genetic information (if available)
  • Whatever other information available on them (personal information such as diaries, memoirs, etc and non-personal information such as medical reports and so on)

Example method:

Cloning them, raising them in simulated conditions (in a virtual environment) and then directly adjusting their personality to make the ressurectée as indistinguishable as possible from the original person.

(B) High-precision simulation

Basically, the A.I will be intelligent enough to derive the past state of the universe based on its knowledge of the present. But it's not a flawless simulation and it will never be entirely accurate.

It will rewind a simulation of the current existing universe (created to its best knowledge) to the moment right before the ressurectée "died" and basically import this person into a present virtual reality and let it run from that point but without dying (any lacking information can be supplemented by doing (A))

Can be embodied in an organic or robotic body in non-virtual reality on their request.

(C) Temporal Information Uploading

Similar to the above, but with time travel technology that mean that the "imported" person is identical to the person you want to resurrect.

Keep in mind: No temporal transportation of the person occurs here.

The A.I will simply peer back in time using a wormhole or something and be able to scan the brain of the dying person on a sub-atomic scale and create a digital upload that continues to live in the present just as the person dies in the past.

Can be embodied in an organic or robotic body in non-virtual reality on their request.
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Which of the above options would be satisfactory?
Please judge them on an individual basis if possible.

Shanadeus on
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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    If it's a hypothetical, I'd go back in time and stop them from being killed

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  • Blake TBlake T Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Pipe you are not thinking big picture here.

    Go back in time and bang their mum.

    Compare and make a detailed chart.

    Show it to them.

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  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User
    edited July 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    If it's a hypothetical, I'd go back in time and stop them from being killed

    You can only look back in time, not travel there or interact with it.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    If it's a hypothetical, I'd go back in time and stop them from being killed

    You can only look back in time, not travel there or interact with it.

    well you can't do any of the things suggested in your OP either so I didn't see the difference

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Fool's Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    go jerk off to kurzweil please

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  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User
    edited July 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    If it's a hypothetical, I'd go back in time and stop them from being killed

    You can only look back in time, not travel there or interact with it.

    well you can't do any of the things suggested in your OP either so I didn't see the difference

    MY THREAD, MY RULES!

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  • FearghaillFearghaill Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'd let the dead be dead and focus on my relationships with the living. It'd be cruel/pointless to waste my attention/affection on a simulation while I still had living friends & family.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
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    This specific comic always bothered me, because it's stupid in many of the same ways that those transhumanist nerds are.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Obviously, the proper course make a robot Hitler, then shoot it.

    Then use time travel to kill Hitler over and over. It is the perfect plan.

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  • MereHappenstanceMereHappenstance Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    If it's a hypothetical, I'd go back in time and stop them from being killed

    You can only look back in time, not travel there or interact with it.

    well you can't do any of the things suggested in your OP either so I didn't see the difference

    BUT WHAT IF, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING OF COURSE, YOU COULD?!

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  • ThreadbareSockThreadbareSock Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I thought this was someone advertising their shitty webcomic

    Although I guess I'm glad its not, I can't say I didn't look forward to the creative ways people come up with to make fun of such posters

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2011
    oh, okay, so this thread is based around speculative fiction written by a poster with only the loosest grasp of artificial intelligence or human psychology, and about a subject which is so far advanced that any limits placed on hypotheticals are completely arbitrary

    yeah

    good thread

    that was sarcasm

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Let's do some elective surgery.

    Who wants robot arms.

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  • ThreadbareSockThreadbareSock Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Uriel wrote: »
    Let's do some elective surgery.

    Who wants robot arms.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFHUbwtieg

    dis is now a sealab thread

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    stuff

    Anyway, to answer all of these: who the fuck knows? Since none of this is even remotely possible with today's technology we literally can't even begin to speculate on the results of the first two methods, and only speculate a little on the results of the third method because it entails making a perfect copy of the person, except they're not dying anymore. Presumably this would mean that they'd be the same person, but it's still too far-fetched to say anything meaningful about it.

    The thing about speculating about the singularity is that it's speculating about the singularity. The whole point of the singularity is that it's impossible to predict what happens after it because everything will have changed so drastically. This whole exercise is nonsense as anything but a creative writing exercise.

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  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    que bizarro stormy

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Anakin was a good friend...

    He's more machine now, than man...

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I like saying the word, technology.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2011
    i especially love how you can look into the past 'by looking into a wormhole or something'

    awesome

    good work, neil degrasse tyson

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2011
    this is every kind of dumb there is

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    if they're homeless it would be a robo blowbo blojo

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    is degrasse that one show from canada

    the only show from canada

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    what about robohobomojoblojos

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    what if said robots are also famous jazz trumpeters what are hard on their luck

    satchmorobohoboblojos

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    i especially love how you can look into the past 'by looking into a wormhole or something'

    awesome

    good work, neil degrasse tyson

    ha ha what

    I look into the past all the time

    it's called reading a book or watching the history channel

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  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    is degrasse that one show from canada

    the only show from canada

    My podiatrist is from canada so they had the Canadian news channel on in his office.

    I guess the duke and duchess of Whatever, England were visiting canada.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    spono wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

    can it also play la cucaracha?

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Uriel wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    is degrasse that one show from canada

    the only show from canada

    My podiatrist is from canada so they had the Canadian news channel on in his office.

    I guess the duke and duchess of Whatever, England were visiting canada.

    That would be Prince Harry and his new bride, Hermione

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I like this thread


    I'm going to make a nest here

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    spono wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

    They already have this.

    It move along with porn apparently.

    Robogina.

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  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    spono wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

    can it also play la cucaracha?

    hell yeah muchacho

    it also has 26" spinners

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Spectre-x wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
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    This specific comic always bothered me, because it's stupid in many of the same ways that those transhumanist nerds are.

    that's why I like this subsequent comic

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Uriel wrote: »
    spono wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

    They already have this.

    It move along with porn apparently.

    Robogina.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspagsTFvlg

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: GaderenRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Caprica was cancelled

    Beyond the scope of light beyond the reach of dark
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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    #pipe wrote: »

    Okay he can make a metal thing spin.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Certified BrimperRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    is degrasse that one show from canada

    the only show from canada

    My podiatrist is from canada so they had the Canadian news channel on in his office.

    I guess the duke and duchess of Whatever, England were visiting canada.

    That would be Prince Harry and his new bride, Hermione

    I'm really pleased with this post, you guys.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    #pipe wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    spono wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    i want a blowjob robot

    roboblojos

    give me a small electric motor, a wheel, a piston and a fleshlight and I can make this happen

    for the deluxe model I'll include some hydraulics

    They already have this.

    It move along with porn apparently.

    Robogina.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspagsTFvlg

    You know, some times, I see the amazing advances of technology in my lifetime, and there's nothing to do but wonder at how far we've come in such a short span.

    This is not one of those times.

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