Congratulations! You have died! Dungeons of Dredmor

Vivixenne

Druhim wrote:

I maxed tinkering and now have the best crafted bow. Also so many bolts.

I just did this, too.

12 bolts for 1 ingot seems like a good deal, oo-rah.

Napalm Donkey

What's the best thing to put in anvils of krong? I've just been tossing my fedora in all the anvils I find. I also like trading in artifacts from shops for xp and not getting in trouble.

Vivixenne

also my crossbow tinkering dead aim assassin made it to level 7

shit is getting pretty intense

Vivixenne

Napalm Donkey wrote:

What's the best thing to put in anvils of krong? I've just been tossing my fedora in all the anvils I find. I also like trading in artifacts from shops for xp and not getting in trouble.

It's a crapshoot for me... generally it is an item that can use improvement but I can also go without. I very seldom put weapons on there and am more likely to put rings or helms or boots. Rings most often, probably.

Tommy2Hands

yeah it is way too risky to throw good weapons in there unless you are playing as indiana jones or are ballsy as fuck

Napalm Donkey

Guess I'll keep doing it to my hat as right now it buffs almost all my stats. Just wasn't sure if it was a wast since there were better hats later or something.

Artreus

I don't know, I have gotten great weapon improvements way more often than curses.

Tommy2Hands

look, anything you throw in a forge on the first couple levels is gonna get outdated at some point

this is why I usually stop myself from throwing the same thing in over and over again, because then I totally won't replace it when I totally need to because I am all "But I've had it since level 1!"

best thing is to maybe throw one or two on the hat, since it is the best one you will have for a while

then stick to rings and amulets and maybe armor if you are feeling lucky

and when you find something better, send it to the warehouse for some xp

Fyndir

If you're using shields and smithing you can generally craft a pretty decent one before you go down to level 2, throwing that on a few anvils can give it some really nice buffs, and you're unlikely to find anything better anytime soon, since anything that's a significant improvement over either the Heroic Bronze Aspis or the Runed Iron Skjoldr is pretty damn rare.

TheStig

note to self: froda's jump discontinuity is not to be relied upon as a means of escape.

M.D.

i upgrade the indiana jones hat and rings

Vivixenne

does selling stuff to the Brax give you XP?

Henroid

Vivixenne wrote:

does selling stuff to the Brax give you XP?

Nope.

Vivixenne

so what's this XP selling thing that people are talking about?

Napalm Donkey

I meant that you can pick up artifacts in shops and use it belongs in a museum and Brax won't think you shoplifted it.

Vivixenne

ohhhhh ok I see

redfenix

o nice
didnt know that
gonna be hockin' all the goods

Fyndir

That...that sounds like cheating.

I don't know if I approve.

redfenix

have you played a roguelike before?
dude, you do anything you can to survive

(aside from hacking saves, obv)

Fyndir

Yeah, but this feels a lot like something the developers never intended, so surely any high score gotten through using it is tainted?

In my head, at least.

Artreus

redfenix wrote:

have you played a roguelike before?
dude, you do anything you can to survive

(aside from hacking saves, obv)

People were talking like the turning permadeath option is cheating earlier. This sounds way more like cheating

Druhim

It's not cheating if they designed that skill to be balanced around that ability. I'm not saying it is balanced, just that it's presumptuous to assume that the devs never intended it to work that way. If they fix it, then they agree it's broken. If they don't fix it, that suggests it's intentional. Time will tell.

I mean, I didn't see anyone in here calling the pyromancy skill cheating but they ended up nerfing fireball twice.

Fyndir

I think the way Brax blocks the door as soon as you pick the item up it a bit telling, no?

FlatEric

Looking at the name of the skill, It could be reasoned that the part of skill itself is allowing you to convince Brax that the artifact does indeed belong in a museum

Artreus

Fireball was so good. I haven't played since they nerfed it and I wonder what it is like now.

Fyndir

FlatEric wrote:

Looking at the name of the skill, It could be reasoned that the part of skill itself is allowing you to convince Brax that the artifact does indeed belong in a museum

That's an angle I hadn't thought of, at all.

interesting.

Ashaman42

Bought this earlier, levelled up a few times on my second game and then had a lockup/crash that lost half an hour or so of exploring. Decided to start a new game rather than carry on the crashed game. I've just had four new games in a row where I've not lasted any longer than a minute, on one of them I finished with zero points!

All good fun though.

peterdevore

Ideally a high score is tied to a certain version of the game and includes a full recording of the gameplay. Then there's simply no confusion as to what happened to achieve it and almost no way to hide exploiting. I won't say they need to put in all the effort for that here but that's commonly what all the other roguelikes with leaderboards do.

Napalm Donkey

I guess it is a bug since the game checks your inventory for stolen items so if you consume/craft/turn into lutefisk etc an item then it will not detect it as being stolen.

Druhim

Fyndir wrote:

I think the way Brax blocks the door as soon as you pick the item up it a bit telling, no?

Again, until and unless the devs actually agree that it needs to be patched, your guess isn't any better than anyone else's.

TankHammer

Fyndir wrote:

FlatEric wrote:

Looking at the name of the skill, It could be reasoned that the part of skill itself is allowing you to convince Brax that the artifact does indeed belong in a museum

That's an angle I hadn't thought of, at all.

interesting.

Yeah, plus Brax is evil so what's the harm in stealing from his shop? He's hoarding artifacts! He didn't make those things! I bet he has Dredmore's minions bring him gear from the other adventurers they kill.

NeoToma

Man, Unarmed Berserker Viking Blood Pyro Wizard is waaaaaay better than Mathemagical Necromiconomic Indiana Jones

redfenix

I know everyone is done playing this, but i'm about to give it another go
and wanted to tell the internet

Fyndir

I am not done playing it, I just haven't had anything worth telling the thread about lately, you know?

A duck!

TankHammer wrote:

Fyndir wrote:

FlatEric wrote:

Looking at the name of the skill, It could be reasoned that the part of skill itself is allowing you to convince Brax that the artifact does indeed belong in a museum

That's an angle I hadn't thought of, at all.

interesting.

Yeah, plus Brax is evil so what's the harm in stealing from his shop? He's hoarding artifacts! He didn't make those things! I bet he has Dredmore's minions bring him gear from the other adventurers they kill.

I know this is a way old argument, but I don't think it holds water. When you use the skill Brax stays in front of the door, so you have to pick up and drop something else to get him to move. Doesn't sound intentional.

Dogbone33

I have finally found level 3. Made it through my second monster zoo and have almost mastered two skills. Bolts of mass destruction are great.

NeoToma

Necromiconmics start really paying off when you get get The Mark and Blood Pact
I'm a murdering machine

Druhim

I'm def still playing this, just not talking about it as much. Still haven't beat the game yet.

FlatEric

I too am playing this still.

Just mastered the unarmed skill tree. The last skill is fantastic, I am literally kicking dudes faces in with the power of SPACE ENERGY.

redfenix

i'm playing on easy, with saves.. gonna beat it that way and then work my way back up
and i'm kicking so much ass
haven't cleared floor 2 all the way yet and (please note that since that mace is in my inventory for the ss, it's not contributing to my damage yet there):