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[THE DARK KNIGHT RISES]

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Well, the origin story for Batman, Superman, they're done to death. They've been done every interesting way you can do them a thousand times over.

    My wish is that Superman and Batman, in their next incarnations, just pick up and run with some adventuring.

    Agreed.
    bowen wrote: »
    Also pretty sure if they go Batman in the JLA, they're not going to not use Bruce Wayne.

    Why do you think that? Wayne is the Batman to the public. Even DC can't keep him dead or sidelined for too long.
    Disrupter wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't care if he makes another, either way. Personally Nolan's original works are more exciting then his batman stuff. I just dont see where the finality is. How many times has DC planned JL movies? Like 100. None of them have gone anywhere. If Nolan wanted more Batman, DC would give it to him and put their flimsly 101st attempt at JL on hold. Remember, they are also putting him in charge of Superman. If I had to take bets on who would direct a possible JL movie, I think Nolan would be the hands down favorite. Despite what DC claims about wanting a friendly version, theyve already handed him the reigns of their two biggest franchises, and hes broken records with one. DC would salivate at Nolan heading JL or keeping his Batman going. They wouldnt stop him, he prints money, acclaim and records for them.

    Really, all the discussion about Justice League and Nolan not wanting to do another occurred with TDK as well. Somehow, this being the 3rd movie means its the end of a trilogy (that was never planned as one...) so this time its over for realies. I don't buy that. Its no more a sure thing as it was after TDK, and we saw what happened after that.

    It likely IS over. But until someone at DC or Nolan says that Nolan is done making batman movies (which hasnt happened, a marketing line of "epic conclusion" isnt confirmation from either side) I don't have any reason to think Nolan might not just go "wouldnt it be cool if Batman..." and then we have a new Batman from Nolan.

    Heck even if he says he IS done, I still wouldn't rule out him changing his mind. Really the only thing that kills Nolan making another batman will be when someone else actually reboots it. Until then, its no different then what happened last time.

    Nolan is DC's golden goose. I can see him producing and consulting on a Justice League film but I don't see him directing it. He prefers realistic films, which may not mesh well with JLA. Snyder, on the other hand, would be fine. That said, without Nolan DC is up shit creek creatively in their super-hero film adaptions. They need him to help shepherd the DCU to the big screen. Only he has the power, and the creativity, to do it. Johns' is a paper tiger to WB, despite supposedly meant to be Fiege's counterpart. Unless something seriously changes at WB the chances are of a Justice League film being made or being a success are very slim. That what happens when they don't learn shit from Marvel Studios.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    Didn't they crash into a mountain of trash?
    Well, the origin story for Batman, Superman, they're done to death. They've been done every interesting way you can do them a thousand times over.

    My wish is that Superman and Batman, in their next incarnations, just pick up and run with some adventuring.

    Agreed.
    bowen wrote: »
    Also pretty sure if they go Batman in the JLA, they're not going to not use Bruce Wayne.

    Why do you think that? Wayne is the Batman to the public. Even DC can't keep him dead or sidelined for too long.
    Double negative.

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  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User
    Some great fan art

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Last Crusade.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    ...well-played, clerks.

  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, we could, we'd just be wrong.

    Like, objectively wrong.

    Seriously, there's no excuse for not liking Die Hard With A Vengeance. Literally none.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    Also Blade Trinity was fantastic, but only because it showed the world that Ryan Reynolds is a national treasure.

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  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    And that Dominic Purcell is sexy as hell.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    And that Dominic Purcell is sexy as hell.

    I really didn't like him as Dracula.

    I don't remember anything about the film except iPod product placement and not liking Purcell.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    I didn't like him as Dracula either, but let's be honest about it. he wasn't Dracula. He was some amalgam of every idea and concept of Dracula placed into a pretty entertaining actor and called Dracula.

    As the "original vampire that made all vampires" he was entertaining.

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  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    Yup.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    Diehard 3 is the best. That silly water puzzle they do in it absolutely stuck with me for some odd reason. Its just so strange within a movie. Its like a videogame puzzle, but in Diehard.

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  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, first... it's not a superhero movie.

    And second, it sucked.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, first... it's not a superhero movie.

    And second, it sucked.

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    McClane's as much of a superhero as Batman. His superpower is a hangover.

    And it was awesome.

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  • RozRoz Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, first... it's not a superhero movie.

    And second, it sucked.

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    McClane's as much of a superhero as Batman. His superpower is a hangover.

    And it was awesome.

    McClane does more badass shit in one scene than most super heroes in entire films. He deserves honorary super hero, minimum.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose Registered User regular
    If batman can be a superhero with all his toys and ten digit bank balance and company he can run like his own personal toy store, then a washed up detective with no money and less toys but the most awesome sidekick ever can be one too.

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  • DeadfallDeadfall Registered User regular
    Disrupter wrote: »
    Diehard 3 is the best. That silly water puzzle they do in it absolutely stuck with me for some odd reason. Its just so strange within a movie. Its like a videogame puzzle, but in Diehard.

    That's because, if I recall, it wasn't originally a Die Hard movie. It was a generic action movie until Willis signed on. I could be wrong, though.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    None of the Die Hard movies have been written for that purpose. They were all adopted from standalone novels or screenplays and then had Bruce Willis and some of the plot details slotted in as necessary.

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  • SteevLSteevL Registered User regular
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Disrupter wrote: »
    Diehard 3 is the best. That silly water puzzle they do in it absolutely stuck with me for some odd reason. Its just so strange within a movie. Its like a videogame puzzle, but in Diehard.

    That's because, if I recall, it wasn't originally a Die Hard movie. It was a generic action movie until Willis signed on. I could be wrong, though.

    You're mostly right.
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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Would that version of a Lethal Weapon sequel not have had Danny Glover?

    Or was Bruce Willis portraying Mel Gibson and Danny Glover at the same time?

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, first... it's not a superhero movie.

    And second, it sucked.

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    McClane's as much of a superhero as Batman. His superpower is a hangover.

    And it was awesome.

    Going to have disagree with you on that. McClane is an action hero, he has more in common with Jack Bauer from 24 than Batman. McClane does not dress up in a Dracula costume to be a vigilante with awesome gadgets that would make James Bond jealous.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Yeah, comparing it to other 3rd-in-series superhero movies, getting ROTJ would be OK by me.

    Like Spiderman 3?

    Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, Batman Forever, Superman 3... have we gotten any good third superhero movie? I honestly can't remember.

    Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Try to dispute me. You can't.

    Well, first... it's not a superhero movie.

    And second, it sucked.

    tumblr_m338ovOmxv1qfggsro5_250.gif

    McClane's as much of a superhero as Batman. His superpower is a hangover.

    And it was awesome.

    McClane does more badass shit in one scene than most super heroes in entire films. He deserves honorary super hero, minimum.

    What super-heroes are you talking about? The ones I've seen, even the bad ones, make McClane look like an amateur.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Sigh.

    That's the last time I make and then run with a joke.

    Now I'm just sad.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    If batman can be a superhero with all his toys and ten digit bank balance and company he can run like his own personal toy store, then a washed up detective with no money and less toys but the most awesome sidekick ever can be one too.

    And he won't be until McClane starts dressing up in fancy costumes, gets a cool super-hero persona and acts like a vigilante not a cop on the force. The Die Hard films won't be changing genres any time soon.

    AMFE:

    Humor is really tough to spot in forums unless it's very obvious.

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  • AurichAurich Registered User regular
    What sillyness! Even putting aside it being a joke, denying McClane honorary superhero status is the height of sillyness. The nerve.

  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User
    I really hope this ends up winning Best Picture and Best Director as a way of making up for TDK getting snubbed in 2008.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Inertiatic Dynamo Lawtonok, TexomaRegistered User regular
    Heisenberg wrote: »
    I really hope this ends up winning Best Picture and Best Director as a way of making up for TDK getting snubbed in 2008.

    Unless it, you know... sucks.

    For the record, I doubt it, but you know...

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    If batman can be a superhero with all his toys and ten digit bank balance and company he can run like his own personal toy store, then a washed up detective with no money and less toys but the most awesome sidekick ever can be one too.

    And he won't be until McClane starts dressing up in fancy costumes, gets a cool super-hero persona and acts like a vigilante not a cop on the force. The Die Hard films won't be changing genres any time soon.

    AMFE:

    Humor is really tough to spot in forums unless it's very obvious.

    Yeah, I know.

    I will say that the only thing that makes John McClane not a superhero is that he doesn't wear a cape or a mask. But yes action hero=/=super hero.

    Die Hard with a Vengance is still an amazing movie though.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero Registered User regular
    I wonder if there is going to be another ARG that culminates in a give-away of prescreening passes like they did for TDK. That would be kickass.

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  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User
    Heisenberg wrote: »
    I really hope this ends up winning Best Picture and Best Director as a way of making up for TDK getting snubbed in 2008.

    Unless it, you know... sucks.

    For the record, I doubt it, but you know...

    Nolan's track record is perfect and the trailers have all been stunning so far. I think it might be even better than TDK.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    I'd like to see TDKR get a Best Pic nomination at least (assuming it's up to snuff), since TDK and Wall-E are pretty much the reason the Academy picks 9-10 instead of just 5. Actually winning it is tougher though, I'm not sure I would have given TDK Best Picture, and while I love Nolan's films they aren't flawless. The dialogue in some can get more expository than it really needs to be, which in turn hampers actors a bit - I know it's rarely the case, but I like it when every part of the Best Picture is at the top of its game.

    I think the Nolan brothers (or just Chris himself) are some of the best in the business at telling extremely complex stories, and that just a little more polish on the dialogue would let the actors shine even more. That combination could put Nolan's team in Coen brothers territory.

  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    I dont know how they would do someone taking up the mantle as Batman... They've spent quite a bit of time and effort showing that Bruce went to such extraordinary lengths to train to be good enough, and still manages to get injured regularly. It would feel weird to have a cop just put the suit on and have the gadgets be enough.

    I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. I can perhaps see a situation where someone adopts the role while Bruce is down and out, as an attempt to be the symbol of hope Gotham needs. Maybe that'd be a moral victory over Bane. I dont imagine that would end too well though.

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  • DritzDritz Registered User regular
    They kinda got around the training aspect in Batman Beyond by suping up the suit quite a bit. Not sure if they could get away with something similar in the Nolanverse though.

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  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    The training is nothing! Will is everything!

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    Dritz wrote: »
    They kinda got around the training aspect in Batman Beyond by suping up the suit quite a bit. Not sure if they could get away with something similar in the Nolanverse though.
    So what you're saying is Joseph Gordon-Levitt will get the Beyond suit at the end of TDKR credits?

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    If Wayne isn't dead but just sort of halfway crippled then he could train new Bats.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero Registered User regular
    I have a hard time processing the fact JGL is, you know, that guy from 3rd Rock.

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