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And Blake are you trying to be ironic with the dog/son thing because with crap analogies like that I can never tell
Jesus Christ dude, I have two small children and another child on the way
The dog has been in my house all of 1 1/2 days before it bites me, would it maybe be all right with you if I reevaluate whether I can handle a biting dog right now
The dog is not my son, way to go with a false equivalence there!
Second, you JUST got this dog, it does not know you at all. You tried to force your hand in it's mouth when it had something it wanted and it bit you. This doesn't mean the dog is rabid, but it obviously has food issues. I realize that it isn't okay behavior, but if you had no intention of trying to train a dog from a relatively unknown background, you should have never gotten a dog. You have kids and a baby soon, if you were really that concerned you would've spent more time looking for the right dog and trying to decide if it was kid friendly.
If you take the dog back, please don't get another. You were clearly upset over the loss of your old dog, but in my very personal opinion I don't think it's best to jump and get another animal just because you miss the old one. Especially within the span of a couple of days, some people take weeks to decide of a dog is right for them, especially if they have kids. I know everyone deals with grief differently, I don't know, I just think there needs to be time in between so you don't make an emotional decision.
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I can't help imaging you're going to have your hands very full, whether or not said hands have bites taken out of them
some households even have.. MORE THAN ONE kid and MANY dogs
Fair enough. Although I really didn't try to force my hand in its mouth, I just sort of moved my hand close to his face non-aggressively trying to coax him to drop it.
I'm at the emergency room right now.
Look up the training method called Nothing In Life Is Free (NILIF). I've used this method on hard headed dogs and it works. It's very similar to that dog whisperer guy (Cesar Millan) only I'm not a fruity latino guy...he's awesome by the way. Look up his stuff.
Basically, teach the dog that you are the source of all food and you are the alpha in the pack. Also, the family (humans) are above him in the pack order, but that you still love him and he's a part of the team. You need to start your pack dominance training yesterday it seems. If you were considered his alpha, he would drop food for you. That's the way the pack works. It will come in time.
http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm
Combine with random positive reinforcement, the technique you read about in high school or college psych 101...you know, Pavlov, bells, ringing, food. Begin with basic commands and give a treat whenever the associated command is done. Associating a word, a hand gesture, a clicking training tool, or snapping the fingers will help. Eventually, start only giving a treat 1 out of 3 times. After a while, only give a treat at random. Make sure to always praise the dog and talk in a high pitch or happy voice.
Never yell. They don't understand it for the most part. Pitch control is better. A low voice or even a soft growl though, that they'll pick up on. If you have to, put them in a restrained position. Hold them gently behind the neck (on the scruff to avoid a nip) and push them down and on their side. Hold the dog, giving a low growl if needed, until they stop struggling. Count to 5 in your head and let them up. Then ignore them. Walk away or just go to the opposite side of the room. If the dog comes to you and is looking for love and affection, give it to them and pretend nothing happened before. If the dog does nothing, that's OK. Just wait until the next time something happens and try it again. Remember you're not trying to hurt the dog, and it might yelp or be pissed because it wants to be alpha, but it can't be. The human feelings in your head about showing love and patience, and that will make the dog finally listen is your hang up. There's a difference between being cruel and doing what nature does, and this is how mother dogs get puppies in line and how pack leaders keep the others in check.
Don't confuse this with punishment though. Most dogs won't respond at all to actual punishment. If you assert yourself at take over as alpha, the only punishment you'll ever need is to ignore the dog and not give them attention until they submit.
You don't say! Well disregard all my advice then. Get all the dogs you want without thinking about it for more than a day, since they are not any kind of commitment and you never have to worry about behavioral problems.
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I'm... not entirely sure which point you're trying to support there?
It's more than possible to train a dog while juggling a family, I just accept that it's the parents' choice whether or not they want to handle the added responsibility of a dog; so if someone re-evaluates their situation and takes a dog back, at least they're trying to be realistic
But by that same notion I'm just saying it was short-sighted to pick up a new dog without being prepared for the eventuality that it took more than a little effort to get them acclimatised to living with you
I dont see how thats controversial!
They're lovely.
If I'd had the option of visiting him there for another week instead of taking him home on a trial basis I would have done so.
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Next you'll be telling us they have cats as well!
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Don't even remember. Doc is giving me three stitches and cipro in case of infection. Thanks for bringing this up, I'll ask for the shot.
By all means, run to the hospital and take the dog back, but that's a cowardly move.
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that is ridiculous and i am cracking up
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I assure you it's possible to properly train a dog to let go of anything when given the command to do so. I've done it with hunting dogs. Several times. I've seen countless other dogs do it with items from dead animals, balls, toys, and occasionally live animals. Reach right out, grab the item, give command, and the dog is happy to let it go.
Again, it's a training thing and the dog needs to see you as pack leader or alpha. In nature, a subordinate dog will give up anything up to and including food to their pack leader or face the consequences.
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You can do tests, right? To assess a dog's intelligence and aggressiveness. Try doing that before ditching dat Corgi. He did just get outta the pound - maybe he's all crazy scared and will never do it again?
But yeah, HEALTH TIME! Get all kinds of anti viral things. And tell the Doctor every god damn thing, they kind of have tunnel vision, hear the first thing you say and then ignore you. So after saying "dog bit" also say "dog was chewing bad things right before" and such. Also, you don't know the dog's medical history, right?
Rabies sounds retarded, but yeah, better safe than hydrophobic and dead.
EDIT: Also, it's totally reasonable to think a dog won't bite when you go for it's mouth. All the dogs I have known will play wrestle when you go for their mouth, growling and chomping at the thing between you, but not the hand. But all the dogs I have known had owners for years.
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I swear by this method and the random reinforcement over time. It's basically the same stuff that Dog Whisperer guy does, he's just applying modern psychobabble to it so it sells well to the self help crowd (nothing wrong with that, make your money snazzy little latin guy).
With puppies, it's much easier because you can do basic submission training much easier and at a younger age. Basically what their dam would be doing. It's also why roughly 8 weeks is the best time to get a new puppy. They've had enough weaning time and socialization with litter mates and adult dogs to get the hints.
This is from more NILIF training for puppies. Start with the adults in the house doing this at least once a day, and in a week or so even the kids should do this as best they can. This is like magic. If you have an older dog, have that dog present while doing this, even if it's sitting around like nothing is going on. It helps to set up the pecking order.
2) Sit on the floor, hold the pup upside down as you would a baby. (see #1)
3) Place the pup on his side on the floor. Hold him down with your hand around his neck (don’t strangle!) and around his middle with your other hand. Don’t let him try to nip at you. (See #1).
4) If the pup is really rough housing and won’t stop, lift him by the scruff of the neck, turn him so that you can look him in the eye and growl.
By the time the dog is an adolescent it will always remember who's the alpha. It can make a timid dog feel more assure and safe (the alpha will take care of things, so I don't need to fear the door bell or thunder) and an aggressive dog will calm down (I don't need to be in charge because that guy is the leader, so I can just chillax).
A dog has fewer bacteria in their mouth than you.
Also, moose bites can be pretty nasty.
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I was being sensationalist and dumb, not really serious
I saw it on House so it must be the case!
What if one of them is streptococcus
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