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"Univseral" Gaming Headset?

HenslerHensler Registered User regular
I want to upgrade my gaming headset to something that is wireless and surround sound. But I play a lot of games... on PS3, Xbox, and PC. Is there any way to get a wireless surround sound headset that I can use for all 3 of these platforms for voice chat and gaming? It looks like the nice ones will be expensive, and I'd prefer to not have to buy 3 different ones. Anybody got any ideas or recommendations? Thanks.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I was searching the market for surround headsets. One thing I never found was wireless true surround sound headsets.

    If they were wireless, they were usually virtual surround sound. These Tritton headphones and these other ones were the best I found between quality/price/universal.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    Thanks, I'll check those out.

  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Registered User regular
    what do you mean true surround, do you mean like 6 little tiny drivers instead of two big drivers?

    I was in a similar boat as OP just a while ago, I ended up getting a good pair of headphones (AD700) a Zalman clip-on mic, and I'm still deciding on what mixamp to go with. All told it'll have been between $150 and $250 depending on the mixamp I go with.

    as far as cheap and wireless goes, you might want to look into Turtle Beach's offerings, I have two pairs of X11 (wired) they're comfortable and I know they work on 360 and PC, and they allegedly work with the PS3. The PX3's which are $150 are said to work on all three and are wireless

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    what do you mean true surround, do you mean like 6 little tiny drivers instead of two big drivers?

    I'm not much of an audiophile - I didn't even realize there was a difference between "true" surround sound and virtual, but the description makes sense. I guess if it sounds the same and actually gives you the impression of 360 degrees of sound, I'd be okay with virtual.

  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Registered User regular
    yeah, it's my opinion that I'd rather have two large drivers than a million little ones, having used a zalman 5.1 headset (6 drivers in them, 3 stereo plugs coming off the end) in the past.

    you might want to take a look around the head-fi.org forums for people in similar situations, a quick glance and I found http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/566357/gaming-headphones-for-pc-xbox360-ps3 though take their advice with a grain of salt, they tend to exaggerate how bad some issues really are and are generally willing to spend over-budget to eliminate issues that many people can't even tell are actually issues.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    I think I've decided to go with the AX Pro's. Thanks for all the advice and links, guys.

  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    You only have two ears. One driver per ear is enough to produce a convincing 3D effect.

    Course, for games you need hardware and software with the capability to simulate the 3D sound field, and they don't all have that. So I get why multichannel headsets exist but from what I've experienced, they kind of sound like shit for the price you pay and they don't even provide a very good surround effect. Better off with a good pair of stereo cans, maybe with a neat mic attached, and one of those sound cards that can do the 3D thing.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    Have had the Triton AX Pro for a few weeks now. I think it sounds great, but I don't have much experience to compare it to. But I really wish I'd went with a wireless model now - the chords are pretty annoying. I'd also like some more bass, like some of the other headsets I've tried. Beyond that, I'm pretty happy with the purchase, but I think I'll keep looking out for a good wireless model.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid I don my top hat, and adjust my monocle, Like a god damn sir.Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    If you don't mind cutting out on the true multi-driver surround sound, Creative has these cans available that connect to the PS3, 360, PC, and Mac:
    http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-Tactic3D-Omega-Wireless/M/B0058D8D3K.htm

    I checked em out at PAX Prime and they sounded pretty good. When my Roccat Kave finally bites the farm, I'll be considering that headset unless something better has come out.
    I think it sounds great, but I don't have much experience to compare it to
    That's actually what Triton is kinda banking on. I've never been impressed with the Tritons personally, they've always sounded muddled and hollow. Try out a better quality headset and you'll be regretting your purchasing decision in a hurry :3.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Here's what you wish you'd bought:

    Astro Mixamp 5.8

    Wireless receiver and base station, works with any headset. Well, any headset that gives it either a four-pole 3.5mm connector (combined mic/headphone) or two 3.5mm connectors (one mic, one headphone), which is pretty much any headset that matters.

    Works with Xbox, PC, and any source that provides a signal over optical. Works for game audio out-of-the-box with PS3, but you do need to buy a $20 adapter to use it for voice chat on that system.

    You just keep the receiver by you, hook your headset up into it, and good to go. They also sell it as part of the A40 Wireless Sytem, but you can shave $50+ off that price by going with another, cheaper headset while not seeing a serious drop in quality. I have the A40 headset, though, and I don't regret spending the money.

    EDIT: Correction - that adapter cable is required for PC chat as well. You'll only hear game audio out-of-the-box.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Also, while it's too late for you, for anybody else reading: multi-driver "true" surround speakers are a gimmick. Or, at least, more of a gimmick than "virtual" surround. You will get much better sound quality out of a pair of good 40mm drivers, and if you think you're getting a more "realistic" sound field out of a ton of tiny speakers all crammed within an inch of your ear, you be crazy. Dolby Headphone works.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid I don my top hat, and adjust my monocle, Like a god damn sir.Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote:
    Also, while it's too late for you, for anybody else reading: multi-driver "true" surround speakers are a gimmick. Or, at least, more of a gimmick than "virtual" surround. You will get much better sound quality out of a pair of good 40mm drivers, and if you think you're getting a more "realistic" sound field out of a ton of tiny speakers all crammed within an inch of your ear, you be crazy. Dolby Headphone works.
    My experience with my Roccat Kave has been that while the sound quality compared to a set of traditional, high quality cans is obviously not as good, it's good enough for video gaming and the positional audio, while obviously not as accurate as a full sized speaker setup, has still saved my bacon more than a few times. It's basically a solid compromise if you want something resembling positional audio and can't do an actual speaker setup. I've got no experience with virtual surround sound so I really can't comment on how the two compare.

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote:
    mcdermott wrote:
    Also, while it's too late for you, for anybody else reading: multi-driver "true" surround speakers are a gimmick. Or, at least, more of a gimmick than "virtual" surround. You will get much better sound quality out of a pair of good 40mm drivers, and if you think you're getting a more "realistic" sound field out of a ton of tiny speakers all crammed within an inch of your ear, you be crazy. Dolby Headphone works.
    My experience with my Roccat Kave has been that while the sound quality compared to a set of traditional, high quality cans is obviously not as good, it's good enough for video gaming and the positional audio, while obviously not as accurate as a full sized speaker setup, has still saved my bacon more than a few times. It's basically a solid compromise if you want something resembling positional audio and can't do an actual speaker setup. I've got no experience with virtual surround sound so I really can't comment on how the two compare.

    If you've got a decent set of headphones, I'm pretty sure Dolby has a software demo of Dolby Headphone somewhere on their site. Probably under Dolby Axon somewhere. But yeah, "virtual" surround works just fine. I've used it to stalk the shit out of some dudes in FPS games, because I can pinpoint them quite accurately in 360 degrees.

  • mspencermspencer Registered User regular
    (The following post might be a thiny-veiled immature way for me to say "hey everybody look at me, I spent $400 on in-ear monitors!" Apologies in advance.)

    I bought Astro A40's at PAX 2008 because I was looking for the same sort of thing: good headphones AND chat built in. It's difficult to get a manufacturer-provided chat headset's microphone near your lips when wearing large "closed cans" headphones.

    When my A40's died (first a speaker blew on the headset, and then using the mixamp with my Sennheiser HD280's I somehow blew the mixamp) I stumbled on another solution: Consider getting in-ear monitors and just putting a manufacturer-provided headset on over that. There are certainly cheaper ways to go about it, but if you get in-ear monitors that have a flat surface facing away from your head, you can just put a regular chat headset over top of it.

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