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GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
So a bit of background. I bounced around for a few years after undergrad figuring out what I wanted to do, with my most significant titles being "Project Manager" and "Technical Marketing Associate." I decided I wanted to get onto more of a high level management track, so I went back to school and got my MBA (just completed a few weeks ago). I signed on as a contractor at a software start-up and we've started having discussions about a permanent role for me.

Since I've started here, I've been kind of a floater. I was hired to help out with a strategy project, but more recently I've been brought in on a number of different development projects to fill holes (the company is in ramp-up mode, so they don't necessarily have all of the resources they need for each project). Helping a Project Manager create materials for deliverable tracking here, creating materials for a client presentation there, and spending an increasing amount of time doing QA work - helping test software because there aren't many dedicated QA people yet.

The VP of Development has talked to me a few times about staying on permanently as a floating resource on the development team. It's a startup, people have to wear different hats etc etc, but I want to make sure that any job I take now is really driving my career forward. I'm hoping to end up acting in a project/product manager capacity in software IT companies, hopefully in the game industry somewhere down the line. I don't mind helping out, and a paycheck is obviously nice in today's economy. I just want to make sure I'm getting marketable experience at this point in my career. We'll see.

Anyway, given the amorphous nature of the position I seem to be filling they've been struggling to come up with an appropriate title. The last one they floated by me was "Release Engineer," which sounds awful and in no way conducive to the type of work I eventually hope to be doing. They've given me some leeway to come up with a title that I feel is more appropriate, but I really don't even know where to start.

Any thoughts?

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  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    That title would imply you're probably not management. Do you reallocate team members to certain projects and other team leads? Or do you simply give ideas? I'm having a hard time understanding what it is you really do, some specifics would help me better think up a title. Release Engineer implies you're working under someone.

    Project Leader would be more appropriate for someone in that position if you do, in fact, give directions and other things. If you're just reassigning people that seems more of Department Director of some sort.

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    bowen wrote:
    That title would imply you're probably not management. Do you reallocate team members to certain projects and other team leads? Or do you simply give ideas? I'm having a hard time understanding what it is you really do, some specifics would help me better think up a title. Release Engineer implies you're working under someone.

    Project Leader would be more appropriate for someone in that position if you do, in fact, give directions and other things. If you're just reassigning people that seems more of Department Director of some sort.


    I've only been here for two weeks, so what I "really do" is up in the air. Right now what I do is help out with whatever people stop by and ask me to help with, and use the time in between to work on the project I was hired to do (research and identify potential companies for acquisition).

    I'm not a developer, have never been a developer and don't have the specific skills to ever do that. Right now I'm getting stuck helping the QA team for a lot of my time, testing bugs and telling the developers what needs to get fixed.

    As I get more experience here, it's likely I take on more of a project management role (particularly as they hire people who are actually qualified to be doing QA). I just want to avoid a title on my resume where people go "oh, that's a software QA position so that's what he does."

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  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    Hmm I'd wait until they actually have a position for you, because as of right now I'd just put you in the R&D lead atm. I don't see anything distinctly managerial yet, but I could be mistaken.

  • TejsTejs Registered User regular
    I wouldn't go with something like R&D lead, because "Lead" positions tend to be developer / engineer centric. Even a QA Lead is someone with a lot of knowledge of development so they can accurately give feedback to the developers. Based on the understanding of the work you are actually doing, you would be a "Quality Assurance Tester", with a side of "Research Analyst", none of which sound like managerial experience.

    I would think something like "Director of QA" would be better, or "Director of Analysis", something along that format.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    "Program Manager" is popular these days.

    Usually avoid "QA" in your name unless it has Director or above as well.

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  • grouch993grouch993 Registered User regular
    What you are describing is sometimes known as "Staff Engineer". Usually a special projects/R&D type of person.

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  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    grouch993 wrote:
    What you are describing is sometimes known as "Staff Engineer". Usually a special projects/R&D type of person.

    See that's what I was thinking too, I couldn't come up with anything solid, but I like the staff engineer title. Senior Staff Engineer is even better.

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    So for an update, I had talked to one of the developers yesterday and explained where I was coming from and came to the conclusion that I probably wanted out (I don't want to be in development really, it's not what I went to school for and it's not the skillset I wanted to develop immediately after school).

    The VP of Development gave me a call last night and we talked about it for a bit, and he basically said that he saw me as someone smart/flexible who could fill a lot of different needs and help put out fires. That might mean supporting QA one day, helping out with analysis for the marketing team the next, and helping with project planning/scoping for another client. It sounds like I'll get a lot of good experience doing that, we just don't really know what to call it. Apparently "release engineer" was just him thinking out loud to the HR head and not something he really considered, so we're still trying to figure it out. He said he considered it more of a "management trainee" position, but you can't really call it that either.

    Might go with "Business Analyst" since I likely will end up doing a fair amount of that type of work going forward, but it's still up in the air at this point. I'm not in a huge rush at the moment because I'm making pretty decent money on contract with them and will likely make less as a permanent employee, but we'll see what happens.

    Thanks all for the feedback.

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  • LanchesterLanchester Registered User regular
    I actually work in a similar field at my company. We have "Systems Integrated business analyst" and "Applications Analyst" for those that oversee and help develop requirements/scope for projects. "IT Project Manager" for those that manage projects (obviously). "System Engineer" or "System Engineer Analyst" for people who actually do the technical work of writing code, testing, etc.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Lanchester wrote:
    I actually work in a similar field at my company. We have "Systems Integrated business analyst" and "Applications Analyst" for those that oversee and help develop requirements/scope for projects. "IT Project Manager" for those that manage projects (obviously). "System Engineer" or "System Engineer Analyst" for people who actually do the technical work of writing code, testing, etc.

    Systems Engineer is pretty good.

    'B-A' is usually a lower title: nothing wrong with it, just not typically someone who manages people. Really doesn't matter too much, what you do defines your job at your current place and then on your resume.

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