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Jack Layton - The Death of a Canadian Icon - We'll miss you Jack, RIP

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  • GonmunGonmun Canada eh!Registered User regular
    Talking with my mother last night (she works in a municipal government office), she actually got to speak with Jack back when he was running to take over the leadership of the NDP. He'd called the office looking for a particular councillor who wasn't in at the time but he wound up speaking with her for about 40 minutes just having small talk and what not. She said he was a very honest man and was rather nice and genuine. She was really sad to hear about what had happened to him, but I guess it goes to show how much he could reach people even through a phone call.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote:
    Even though I didn't vote NDP, I can't deny that Jack had charisma and passion for what he did....

    The people voted NDP because of Jack first and what they stood for second.
    As a person who does not vote for the NDP how can you claim to know the motivations of those who do?

    Yes, it probably helped to have a leader that was so charismatic and personable... but there are those of us who vote on our principles. I doubt that Harper's, uh, electrifying presence has had much to do with his success.

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    Look man, us Tories can really get down with Harper and his crackerness.

    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    Coverage of what is going on at Parliament Hill today.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/08/24/pol-layton-parliament.html

    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
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  • hippofanthippofant Registered User regular
    Peace.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular


    damn

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  • Lord_MordjaLord_Mordja Registered User regular
    Just a head's up, there's an entire section dedicated to Jack in this week's NOW.

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  • Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    Azio wrote:
    Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote:
    Even though I didn't vote NDP, I can't deny that Jack had charisma and passion for what he did....

    The people voted NDP because of Jack first and what they stood for second.
    As a person who does not vote for the NDP how can you claim to know the motivations of those who do?

    Yes, it probably helped to have a leader that was so charismatic and personable... but there are those of us who vote on our principles. I doubt that Harper's, uh, electrifying presence has had much to do with his success.

    Anecdotally, it's because anyone I know who voted NDP told me they did it because of Jack. Not only that, it wasn't until the leadership debate when Jack Layton owned everyone live on air that NDP started gaining in the polls.

    If those who voted NDP didn't do so because of Jack, why hasn't the NDP EVER been the official opposition before now? Did NDP's policies suddenly change (I'm honestly not sure. Educate me!)? It's no secret that under his leadership the party was been more successful than ever before. Really, all we can do is wait until the next federal election and see where the chips fall.

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  • Nova_CNova_C Sniff Sniff Snorf Yellowknife, NTRegistered User regular
    I don't think the NDP's gains were solely because of Jack. Harper has polarized Canada more than I've ever seen it and the Liberals have collapsed as an organization. The single biggest reason the NDP did so well in the last election was because so many people wanted Harper out. If the Liberals had a solid, charismatic leader then they would still be the official opposition.

    However, Jack has done one thing better than almost any politician I've seen - consistency. That can only help a political party and here's hoping that his successor keeps the party consistent.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    As recently as March, the NDP was commonly seen as a protest party, a glorified social club for fringe leftists, permanently doomed to fourth place. Their platform was derided out of hand as an unaffordable laundry-list of Marxist pipe dreams. Jack's performance in the election debates and especially on Tout le monde en parle convinced people to actually give the NDP a serious look. It was a big hurdle for the party to cross.

    With or without Jack, the NDP offers a shiny new "progressive" option, without all the baggage of the Liberal party. To French Canadians, it offers an opportunity to constructively participate in the governance of this country, without losing their distinct cultural identity. No other party offers that. That isn't going to change in the next 4 years.

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